Rangers Picture Thread

[tannerall 25,935]

3 minutes ago, G.A.T.J. said:

I've posted it before (page 539) source is wrong.

What's your source ?

Because here's the goal at 3.57.

 

[tannerall 25,935]

On 15/05/2020 at 10:23, G.A.T.J. said:

I found another picture kicking about the internet claiming to be Alec Macdonald's winner in the 1975 League cup final which it clearly isn't for a number of reasons. For one it was scored at the Rangers end. Does anyone know what goal or otherwise this is ?

That's the Rangers end. 

(The policeman and ballboy behind the goal is in the pic and the vid.) 

If it was Ibrox the camera would have been on left hand side, from the Rangers end. I think you just assumed it was the cellic end, which I did too at first looking at the photo due to no congestion, but I remember the goal vividly.

My question was a bit of a tease,because you can't identify MacDonald clearly. 

[G.A.T.J. 580]

23 minutes ago, tannerall said:

That's the Rangers end. 

(The policeman and ballboy behind the goal is in the pic and the vid.) 

If it was Ibrox the camera would have been on left hand side, from the Rangers end. I think you just assumed it was the cellic end, which I did too at first looking at the photo due to no congestion, but I remember the goal vividly.

My question was a bit of a tease,because you can't identify MacDonald clearly. 

If you watch the video the Rangers fans are going nuts unlike this photograph. Also McGrain nearly takes McDonald's head off with his challenge and goes nowhere near the goal line.

[tannerall 25,935]

13 minutes ago, G.A.T.J. said:

If you watch the video the Rangers fans are going nuts unlike this photograph. Also McGrain nearly takes McDonald's head off with his challenge and goes nowhere near the goal line.

If you watch the video McGrain does go flying in feet up, but the foot lands on the deck and McGrain is horizontal as the ball goes over the line, which is when the photo was took.

In the photo you can see the goalies arms coming across to save, in the same position and time as the video as well, that's my main reason now for believing the photo. 

I'm pretty convinced. 

We're starting to make it look like a JFK shooting investigation though, we might never get a 100% answer.. 

[Don54 25,576]

40 minutes ago, tannerall said:

If you watch the video McGrain does go flying in feet up, but the foot lands on the deck and McGrain is horizontal as the ball goes over the line, which is when the photo was took.

In the photo you can see the goalies arms coming across to save, in the same position and time as the video as well, that's my main reason now for believing the photo. 

I'm pretty convinced. 

We're starting to make it look like a JFK shooting investigation though, we might never get a 100% answer.. 

It's 100% the 1975-76 League cup final, I was in the Rangers end that day 

[tannerall 25,935]

1 minute ago, Don54 said:

It's 100% the 1975-76 League cup final, I was in the Rangers end that day 

Yep, me too. 

I think it was raining, hence the sparseness of the Rangers end in the photo, the roof did not cover the front of the terrace. 

All the Cellic end fans would be getting rained on,  so we probably sang "The Tims Are Getting Wet".  And at the end as they left before the presentation we probably sang "Go Home Ya Huns". 

[Don54 25,576]

Longest ever serving Rangers player Dougie Gray

1925-26 to 1946-47 

10 league championship and 6 Scottish Cup winner's medals.

851 games 

[Don54 25,576]

3 minutes ago, tannerall said:

Yep, me too. 

I think it was raining, hence the sparseness of the Rangers end in the photo, the roof did not cover the front of the terrace. 

All the Cellic end fans would be getting rained on,  so we probably sang "The Tims Are Getting Wet".  And at the end as they left before the presentation we probably sang "Go Home Ya H***". 

I 'm sure you got it right with those songs too 

[JCDBigBear 10,865]

21 hours ago, BobbyS said:

Sorry, it's the 1963 Final (photo from 1963 Scottish Football Book)

I'm pretty sure that it was 1964 as that was when the bowler hat was "borrowed" from a Rangers director.   Also George McLean played in the 64 final not in 63.

[tannerall 25,935]

14 minutes ago, Don54 said:

Longest ever serving Rangers player Dougie Gray

1925-26 to 1946-47 

10 league championship and 6 Scottish Cup winner's medals.

851 games 

When you consider we don't include the war records, that is a massive, massive achievement, probably equal to 16 probable league championships. 

Doubt there are many other football players with that kind of record. if any.

 

[JCDBigBear 10,865]

2 hours ago, tannerall said:

What's your source ?

Because here's the goal at 3.57.

 

Sorry mate but the other photo is not the goal at 3.57.    The diving header in the video is at the Rangers end, the photo shows the tims end.

[tannerall 25,935]

1 minute ago, JCDBigBear said:

Sorry mate but the other photo is not the goal at 3.57.    The diving header in the video is at the Rangers end, the photo shows the tims end.

Are you sure ? That was my first impression too.

But we don't see up to where the roof would be, and if you look at the policeman and ball boy, even the barriers they are in both the picture and video, the ball is in the same place, and even the 4 players are in same place, especially the goalie who is diving to his right. Too many co-incidences. 

[JCDBigBear 10,865]

On 15/02/2021 at 23:37, tannerall said:

Name the Rangers player.

This photo shows the tims end.  It isn't the same goal shown in the video.     Also the sunlight is on the right hand side of the faces in the crowd which would be towards the south stand.

[tannerall 25,935]

24 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said:

This photo shows the tims end.  It isn't the same goal shown in the video.  I reckon it's McDonald scoring at Hampden on 5th Dec 73 in league cup semi final we lost 3 - 1.   Also the sunlight is on the right hand side of the faces in the crowd which would be towards the south stand.

I thought possible, though unlikely, so checked the teams.

McDonald, McGrain and Hood all played in both, and they even had the same numbers. 

On the site there was a reference to: 

"the bad weather, however, reduced the gate to 54,864 on the night. The game had an evening kick off with Hampden arranging extra generators to power the floodlights to get round the emergency powers."

Being December it would be dark, so looks to me that it is the 1975 game still.

Unfortunately the site google took me too is the bloody, cellic wiki link, so I won't quote it. 

I reckon we just need a picture of video of the 73  game goal just to end the mystery so I'll try that. 

[tannerall 25,935]

11 minutes ago, tannerall said:

I thought possible, though unlikely, so checked the teams.

McDonald, McGrain and Hood all played in both, and they even had the same numbers. 

On the site there was a reference to: 

"the bad weather, however, reduced the gate to 54,864 on the night. The game had an evening kick off with Hampden arranging extra generators to power the floodlights to get round the emergency powers."

Being December it would be dark, so looks to me that it is the 1975 game still.

Unfortunately the site google took me too is the bloody, cellic wiki link, so I won't quote it. 

I reckon we just need a picture of video of the 73  game goal just to end the mystery so I'll try that. 

The answer was in the same cellic wiki link match report for the league cup semi-final of 1973.

"But it was not, for a while, to be easy for Celtic. Rangers found an ally in adversity and three minutes later they were deservedly level. Greig, as always at the heart of every matter, broke up the midfield play and edged towards the penalty area. Once there he played the square pass to MacDonald on the left and the winger hit a vicious curving cross which flew across the face of Ally Hunter before spiralling into the net - the game's best goal."

So looks like the photo in the other posts is MacDonald scoring with a header in the 1975 game.

Well worth the journey though, as it is one of my favourite Gers moments. 

 

 

[JCDBigBear 10,865]

3 minutes ago, tannerall said:

I thought possible, though unlikely, so checked the teams.

McDonald, McGrain and Hood all played in both, and they even had the same numbers. 

On the site there was a reference to: 

"the bad weather, however, reduced the gate to 54,864 on the night. The game had an evening kick off with Hampden arranging extra generators to power the floodlights to get round the emergency powers."

Being December it would be dark, so looks to me that it is the 1975 game still.

Unfortunately the site google took me too is the bloody, cellic wiki link, so I won't quote it. 

I reckon we just need a picture of video of the 73  game goal just to end the mystery so I'll try that. 

Of course, the semi would be midweek and at night.  Can't be that 73 game.   Definitely tims end though so not 1975 as that particular goal was scored at our end.   

[KaiserJon 12,489]

@tannerall you have contradicted yourself numerous times over the last pages. I thought you only post facts? FFS check everything before coming on here and spouting although it is amusing to read I will give you that. Got to say that I could not remember half the games I have been at sometimes, particularly Euro away

[tannerall 25,935]

Just now, JCDBigBear said:

Of course, the semi would be midweek and at night.  Can't be that 73 game.   Definitely tims end though so not 1975 as that particular goal was scored at our end.   

It'll probably remain a mystery then. I'm confident its wee Doddy in 75.

Curious now though why we all thought it was the tims end, as both ends are the same wall and terrace effectively and we have to assume a terrace roof would not have been in the picture at such a low angle.

I only stood once at the tim end at a Scotland-Czechoslovakia world cup qualifier,game at night so am basing that on limited experience.  

 

[tannerall 25,935]

3 minutes ago, badjon said:

@tannerall you have contradicted yourself numerous times over the last pages. I thought you only post facts? FFS check everything before coming on here and spouting although it is amusing to read I will give you that. Got to say that I could not remember half the games I have been at sometimes, particularly Euro away

So what do you think ?

[JCDBigBear 10,865]

8 minutes ago, tannerall said:

So looks like the photo in the other posts is MacDonald scoring with a header in the 1975 game.

TBH not sure we can tell who scored the goal in the photo.  It is definitely at the tim end of Hampden.  Can't be 

 

3 minutes ago, tannerall said:

It'll probably remain a mystery then. I'm confident its wee Doddy in 75.

Curious now though why we all thought it was the tims end, as both ends are the same wall and terrace effectively and we have to assume a terrace roof would not have been in the picture at such a low angle.

I only stood once at the tim end at a Scotland-Czechoslovakia world cup qualifier,game at night so am basing that on limited experience.  

 

In the 75 Final the goal was at our end and it was mobbed.   No spaces at the front as in the photo.   I'm right about the sunlight being from the south so the  fans are facing west.      Quite often their end was far less crowded than ours.  Could it be Glasgow Cup in August 1970?

[tannerall 25,935]

32 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said:

TBH not sure we can tell who scored the goal in the photo.  It is definitely at the tim end of Hampden.  Can't be 

 

In the 75 Final the goal was at our end and it was mobbed.   No spaces at the front as in the photo.   I'm right about the sunlight being from the south so the  fans are facing west.      Quite often their end was far less crowded than ours.  Could it be Glasgow Cup in August 1970?

Not according to that website I don't want to mention, the team lists show McGrain did not play in that. Craig and Gemmell were full backs. 

Surprisingly (to me anyway) the attendance in 1975 was only 59,000, about 2/3 full. We had not won anything the year before.

[KaiserJon 12,489]

30 minutes ago, tannerall said:

So what do you think ?

I wasn't there, yes I know the players, but not at or not at game or games.👍

[hammer93 15,137]

@tannerall the obvious give away is Edvalsson heads the ball out number 6 and it is he again who tries to block it....in your picture no celtic player is between the goalie and the goal scorer.....two completely different goals

[tannerall 25,935]

Edvalssson is to the right of both Alex MacDonald Hood in the video. 

The photo only show s far to right as Alex MacDonald, then cuts off. 

I'm convinced, too many coincidences. We've discounted any other goals scored by a Rangers player against Cellic in that time period, where McGrain was playing and Hood was number 7. with everyone including,  the goalie, the policeman and the ball boy in same position. 

[G.A.T.J. 580]

Definitely not this goal.