Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Here's a thought, see if we put up a banner with a picture of their deport the fenian army nonsense, will we get done with it? In Europe we get done. Would be nice to see a banner with “Know Your Place Fenian Army Scum” next Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Oh please don’t start it’s the same as a Black calling himself a n***er, it isn’t even comparable. It is in the eyes of uefa tho whether we like it or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 26,928 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Sense from the Bridgeton Loyal RSC, who are hardly handwringers - Bridgeton Loyal Rangers Supporters Club 1 hr · This was posted earlier on one of our members personal twitter feed and has received a bit of reaction and comment. We have put it on this page to let a bigger audience read the post and comment further. Following the UEFA statement and the partial closing of the stadium for Thursdays game, it feels like we have now reached a pivotal moment on how we continue to support our club and how we must try retain our identity without incurring further penalties and sanctions. Firstly, we should all recognise an indisputable truth, that no matter what we do as a club or support, we will always be judged differently from others, there is a level of hatred for us within Scottish society which manifests itself everyday, not just from our rivals but also in the press, on radio and TV and even from Politicians. All of these are allowed free reign to constantly demonise our club and support with impunity, we all know who they are. What is also important is that we should recognise our own failings here and hold our hands up to the fact we have been warned numerous times about certain songs and the consequences continuing to sing them would bring, we have failed to heed the warnings and now we are almost certainly looking at a full ground closure if we carry on. I have been reading many posts on social media where supporters have been pointing fingers of blame at everyone from the UB to the board, it is absolutely ridiculous to apportion blame on any one group or section of support, almost every single one of us has belted out the BB and the rest, so please do not let this divide us. We know where the attitude towards us is coming from and we also know why it's being highlighted now, they have laughed at us for the last few years but our enemies really do now know " the Rangers ARE coming". What can we do to turn this around? for me it's fairly simple. We have to make the necessary changes to our song book, but we come back even harder with chants and banners which clearly identify our enemies and causes with no ambiguity, we tell them who and what we are, we highlight double standards and cover ups inside and outside of football, and we never miss them, we show them we will never bend the knee or be subservient to their version of what we should be. On Rangers on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,332 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Oh please don’t start it’s the same as a Black calling himself a n***er, it isn’t even comparable. Exactly, the N word has always been a slur - similar to Yid which has been adopted in defiance by some of those who it has been used against. Fenian wasn't a slur but a name adopted proudly by people with the very same views as those feigning offence today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,152 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Fenian Against Rangers in Europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, theweebluenose said: Exactly, the N word has always been a slur - similar to Yid which has been adopted in defiance by some of those who it has been used against. Fenian wasn't a slur but a name adopted proudlt by people with the very same views as those feigning offence today. My point being its the context in which it's used. Be honest do u think calling someone a fenian bastard isn't an insult regardless of the original meaning of the word because I know I only use it for that exact reason. Unfortunately that's exactly what UEFA are jumping on. Not the meaning of the word but the way its used Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, rabc10000 said: It is in the eyes of uefa tho whether we like it or not Well that just makes there view point even more ludicrous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Siam69 said: Sense from the Bridgeton Loyal RSC, hardly handwringers - Bridgeton Loyal Rangers Supporters Club 1 hr · This was posted earlier on one of our members personal twitter feed and has received a bit of reaction and comment. We have put it on this page to let a bigger audience read the post and comment further. Following the UEFA statement and the partial closing of the stadium for Thursdays game, it feels like we have now reached a pivotal moment on how we continue to support our club and how we must try retain our identity without incurring further penalties and sanctions. Firstly, we should all recognise an indisputable truth, that no matter what we do as a club or support, we will always be judged differently from others, there is a level of hatred for us within Scottish society which manifests itself everyday, not just from our rivals but also in the press, on radio and TV and even from Politicians. All of these are allowed free reign to constantly demonise our club and support with impunity, we all know who they are. What is also important is that we should recognise our own failings here and hold our hands up to the fact we have been warned numerous times about certain songs and the consequences continuing to sing them would bring, we have failed to heed the warnings and now we are almost certainly looking at a full ground closure if we carry on. I have been reading many posts on social media where supporters have been pointing fingers of blame at everyone from the UB to the board, it is absolutely ridiculous to apportion blame on any one group or section of support, almost every single one of us has belted out the BB and the rest, so please do not let this divide us. We know where the attitude towards us is coming from and we also know why it's being highlighted now, they have laughed at us for the last few years but our enemies really do now know " the Rangers ARE coming". What can we do to turn this around? for me it's fairly simple. We have to make the necessary changes to our song book, but we come back even harder with chants and banners which clearly identify our enemies and causes with no ambiguity, we tell them who and what we are, we highlight double standards and cover ups inside and outside of football, and we never miss them, we show them we will never bend the knee or be subservient to their version of what we should be. On Rangers on. How would that make them handwringers?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,511 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 26,928 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: How would that make them handwringers?? They're not, that's what i'm saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossDas 1,071 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Well that just makes there view point even more ludicrous. I blame the eunuchs that were running the club at the time for not making sure that our side was fairly represented when the agenda was being pushed in the first place. As I remember it UEFA were originally content to shrug their shoulders and dismiss the whole thing as being internal politics of the UK/Ireland (which it clearly is), but some catholic from the continent was like a dog with a bone over it and they caved in and changed their minds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Siam69 said: They're not, that's what i'm saying. Sorry mate, misread the first line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, rossDas said: I blame the eunuchs that were running the club at the time for not making sure that our side was fairly represented when the agenda was being pushed in the first place. As I remember it UEFA were originally content to shrug their shoulders and dismiss the whole thing as being internal politics of the UK/Ireland (which it clearly is), but some catholic from the continent was like a dog with a bone over it and they caved in and changed their minds. Pretty sure it was some Fenian from the Republic that kept on at them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossDas 1,071 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Pretty sure it was some Fenian from the Republic that kept on at them. Could be . In any event the situation regarding free speech etc is far worse than it was back then and I can't see anything favourable coming of contesting it now, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1690 1,064 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 10 hours ago, eejay the dj said: That has nothing to do with it . So we have to be eternally thankful to him .Because he railroaded them out using the media and his hired hands . And has basically taken us back to the DM days of zero transparency and not giving a fuck about the people that matter . Our supporters . Naw count me out of the sycophantic behaviour towards our spineless board Be careful what you wish for for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Laudrup1690 said: Be careful what you wish for for You are welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Laudrup1690 said: Be careful what you wish for for Oh dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 8 hours ago, gogzy said: lol whit? It's already happened. The section WILL be closed for the legia game. Have you been paying attention? Nope lol. That was from the first page of this thread. I hadn't read the clubs site at that point. If it wasn't for the racism part that has been thrown in, then I stand by what I said. We can't let whoever it was get away with calling our songs racist. That is bang out of order. Bloody paedos making sure that we are the ones with the big story In the press rather than themselves. Sad sad fuckers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 7 hours ago, rabc10000 said: Not sure if anyone has posted but here's some contact details if anyone wishes to ask any questions Nil By Mouth Touchbase Middlesex Street Glasgow G41 1EE Telephone: 0141 418 7194 Fare network 16-16A Baldwin Gardens Hatton Gardens London. EC1N 7RJ info@farenet.org They're a fenian organisation mate. Set up by a family who's son was stabbed and died after an old firm game for wearing a celtic top apparently. They claim they are fair, but they can't help but lean towards the mhank side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,511 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Redwhiteandblue said: They're a fenian organisation mate. Set up by a family who's son was stabbed and died after an old firm game for wearing a celtic top apparently. They claim they are fair, but they can't help but lean towards the mhank side. It wasn’t after an old firm and he was killed because he had a celtic scarf on, don’t think there’s any apparently about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Bears r us said: Just noticed this on Twitter and this seems a good place to put it. I think I have read about this before but it is a good reminder what we are up against. A complaint against Hearts and every tag in it is a Rangers one. Enough said... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 hours ago, rabc10000 said: Yes we would. It would be classed as discriminatory against them in the same way a black man can call himself a n***er but we cant Thats actually not true. If you're offended by him calling himself a n***er, then under our laws it is racist. Ridiculous, I know. But true none the less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 hours ago, rabc10000 said: My point being its the context in which it's used. Be honest do u think calling someone a fenian bastard isn't an insult regardless of the original meaning of the word because I know I only use it for that exact reason. Unfortunately that's exactly what UEFA are jumping on. Not the meaning of the word but the way its used If that's the case, then we need to start calling ourselves H***... We could have a banner - H*** in the sun having fun. Where's the feenyuns? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: How would that make them handwringers?? A know a lot of them and They are more neck wringers than hand wringers 😂 It’s somebody’s opinion and we are all entitled to one, it’s not the opinions of those who agree we should stop singing these songs that got me spewing it’s the actual decision of eufa that pissed me off and then the pc mob in our support who think it’s their divine right to say who is and who isnt wanted at ibrox, fkin goons some people are more grown up about the fact we WILL have to stop singing some songs in ibrox, after singing these song my whole life to date, it might take a bit of getting used, but outside of ibrox it’s fair game until they start putting us in the jail for it again EDIT: wasnt directed at you mate was directed at what you quoted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 ?M 26 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: It wasn’t after an old firm and he was killed because he had a celtic scarf on, don’t think there’s any apparently about Fair do's, it was a long time ago but the point I was making still stands... What you mean with "dont think there's any apparently about"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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