glasgow argyle 1,093 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 hours ago, BlueThunder said: Exactly. Score a few against Leverkusen and he’ll be back on peoples radar (if he ever went away) ‘Up to about £10m’? You have to be joking. I know a lot has changed in recent weeks but it's not that long ago when Martin Keown was quoting him in the region of £40m if he starts to score regularly again and in Europe then despite the disciplinary issues he should command a lot nearer £40m than up to £10m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, glasgow argyle said: I know a lot has changed in recent weeks but it's not that long ago when Martin Keown was quoting him in the region of £40m if he starts to score regularly again and in Europe then despite the disciplinary issues he should command a lot nearer £40m than up to £10m Who do you think will come in for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Smile said: I can see why you get so defensive of Morelos now you both seem to be quite immature. A lad is not young at 23 and does not excuse his behaviour. 😂😂 typical response from you. Have a nice day hating our own players. 👍👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,911 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 The club has played a role in this and need to share the blame. Alfredo was allowed to go to Columbia and show up in Dubai a few days after everyone else. And now, through kindness, only a few weeks later he has been granted permission again. No-one knows the extent of his mother's illness but a flight from Scotland-Columbia is 15 hrs. It would take days to recover from jet-lag. It was madness to let him go again. People blame Arfield's lacklustre play in flying to and from Canada which is half the distance! I never thought I would say this but for the first time ever Morelos doesn't make my starting 11 on Wednesday. People will say he has already been punished but I say his punishment should be further for playing his part in Saturday's horrific loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow argyle 1,093 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Smile said: Who do you think will come in for him? I think Everton or Newcastle or similar teams in England, perhaps Leicester. Or a European side. Are possible destinations if he gets back to scoring . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: The club has played a role in this and need to share the blame. Alfredo was allowed to go to Columbia and show up in Dubai a few days after everyone else. And now, through kindness, only a few weeks later he has been granted permission again. No-one knows the extent of his mother's illness but a flight from Scotland-Columbia is 15 hrs. It would take days to recover from jet-lag. It was madness to let him go again. People blame Arfield's lacklustre play in flying to and from Canada which is half the distance! I never thought I would say this but for the first time ever Morelos doesn't make my starting 11 on Wednesday. People will say he has already been punished but I say his punishment should be further for playing his part in Sunday's horrific loss. He didn’t play on SATURDAY?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,911 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said: He didn’t play on SATURDAY?? I just edited it. You know I meant Saturday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: I just edited it. You know I meant Saturday! 😂😂 just pulling your chain mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,830 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, bluenoz said: The club has played a role in this and need to share the blame. Alfredo was allowed to go to Columbia and show up in Dubai a few days after everyone else. And now, through kindness, only a few weeks later he has been granted permission again. No-one knows the extent of his mother's illness but a flight from Scotland-Columbia is 15 hrs. It would take days to recover from jet-lag. It was madness to let him go again. People blame Arfield's lacklustre play in flying to and from Canada which is half the distance! I never thought I would say this but for the first time ever Morelos doesn't make my starting 11 on Wednesday. People will say he has already been punished but I say his punishment should be further for playing his part in Saturday's horrific loss. Morelos wasn't playing in Braga and we beat them having played really well. Morelos is not to blame for the fact that we cannot beat Hearts without him in two games. This whole thread has become utterly ridiculous. Morelos is being made a scapegoat for the entire squad playing like amateurs domestically since the New Year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, bluenoz said: The club has played a role in this and need to share the blame. Alfredo was allowed to go to Columbia and show up in Dubai a few days after everyone else. And now, through kindness, only a few weeks later he has been granted permission again. No-one knows the extent of his mother's illness but a flight from Scotland-Columbia is 15 hrs. It would take days to recover from jet-lag. It was madness to let him go again. People blame Arfield's lacklustre play in flying to and from Canada which is half the distance! I never thought I would say this but for the first time ever Morelos doesn't make my starting 11 on Wednesday. People will say he has already been punished but I say his punishment should be further for playing his part in Saturday's horrific loss. The problem is we will have to play him to sell him or expect to get any money for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gj923 1,457 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, glasgow argyle said: I think Everton or Newcastle or similar teams in England, perhaps Leicester. Or a European side. Are possible destinations if he gets back to scoring . Everton already lost out on a player they signed not being able to get a work permit so I don't think they or any other EPL will actually bid for him. Most likely destination somewhere on the continent and nowhere near what has been quoted in the press Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,830 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, gj923 said: Everton already lost out on a player they signed not being able to get a work permit so I don't think they or any other EPL will actually bid for him. Most likely destination somewhere on the continent and nowhere near what has been quoted in the press What valuation is in the media and what is your valuation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 I wonder if he's been tapped up in the winter break? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: I wonder if he's been tapped up in the winter break? Maybe that’s what’s happened to the rest of them as well. 😎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: Maybe that’s what’s happened to the rest of them as well. 😎 To tell you the truth is we got decent money they can just about all go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: To tell you the truth is we got decent money they can just about all go Yer right, just about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,830 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Smile said: The problem is we will have to play him to sell him or expect to get any money for him. Playing your best striker is not a problem, getting some decent service to him is what has dried up. Morelos has played in 14 Euro games this season and scored in 9 of them. In the last two seasons he has scored against some decent European clubs Porto, Young Boys, Feyenoord, Legia Warsaw, Midtjilland and Rapid Vienna. In his first season with us he scored 18 in 43 appearances. In his second season after Gerrard took over he scored 30 in 48 games which was a vast improvement. In this his third season he has scored 29 in 43 appearances which is heading in the direction of better stats than last season. These are the statistics which we should be highlighting if we wish to increase his value not the online vitriol directed at him out of frustration at the whole squad by our own supporters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,830 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 34 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: I wonder if he's been tapped up in the winter break? That would surely make him play better to get a better deal from whatever club when the transfer window opens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gj923 1,457 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: What valuation is in the media and what is your valuation? anything from 20-40m has been quoted in the press. Reckon we will get 7-8M tops which the board will accept Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,134 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, JCDBigBear said: That would surely make him play better to get a better deal from whatever club when the transfer window opens. Not if he knows it’s nailed on. Like an unconditional uni offer switches kids off. More likely to look after himself & ensure he stays injury free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,830 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, gj923 said: anything from 20-40m has been quoted in the press. Reckon we will get 7-8M tops which the board will accept You must be joking. I honestly can't believe you think £7 or £8 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,830 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, HG5 said: Not if he knows it’s nailed on. Like an unconditional uni offer switches kids off. More likely to look after himself & ensure he stays injury free. No club will want him switching off for half a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: No club will want him switching off for half a season. It's a good point but ego is a big part of coaching at the top level and a lot will think they can get the best out of him where others have failed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,911 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: Playing your best striker is not a problem, getting some decent service to him is what has dried up. Morelos has played in 14 Euro games this season and scored in 9 of them. In the last two seasons he has scored against some decent European clubs Porto, Young Boys, Feyenoord, Legia Warsaw, Midtjilland and Rapid Vienna. In his first season with us he scored 18 in 43 appearances. In his second season after Gerrard took over he scored 30 in 48 games which was a vast improvement. In this his third season he has scored 29 in 43 appearances which is heading in the direction of better stats than last season. These are the statistics which we should be highlighting if we wish to increase his value not the online vitriol directed at him out of frustration at the whole squad by our own supporters. No-one and I mean absolutely no-one is disputing his goal scoring abilities. It is his disciplinary conduct people are questioning. How many games has he played this year. Three? Four? If anyone should be doing extra in training it is Morelos to get his sharpness back due to a lack of games. We all saw the training video where he couldn't be arsed. His value has decreased. Score against Bayer where the spotlight is on him and it may increase again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,134 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, JCDBigBear said: No club will want him switching off for half a season. Happens all the time. Needs to shake a leg, to show willing, otherwise not bust a gut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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