saltire266 502 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 18 million gets you fuck all if its everything included! Mans a chancer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,545 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 only under king and mini could you chuck your job but still be doing it 4 days later Dlydon81 and Rangers Lady 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,541 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ger_onimo said: Sorry to keep on about this, but someone please point out what I'm missing: The board and management team meet, and agree to terminate employment with immediate effect. The management team then return to work, including giving press conferences. The agent then comes back to the board asking them to go back on the agreement. The board refuse. It is at this point that the board publicly announce the agreement which has already been in place, possibly for several days. How can that possibly make sense?   Drumloyal's timeline posted earlier looks plausible Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Drumloyal said: This is how I see the timeline: Monday -  meeting between Robertson and agent Tuesday - takes the proposal to the board who discuss it Wednesday - agreed Thursday - forest give job to Brazil,  agent moves goalposts Friday - MW told to take presser while it's being mulled over.  MW talks usual shite and lies.  After presser the board decide not to defer resignation.  Plausible?   After discussion the Board accepted this offer and employment was immediately terminated. This would be on the Tuesday. BloodRunsBlue and Bears r us 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRARFC 77 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, MARK92GERS said: Pffft wow at the pish your spouting really get king and the board out who's going to come and be the saviour then ? I get he's not eveyones cup of tea but dont forget least the club is still running and progress has definitely been made just no pleasing people at all I'm less worried than I was when we had Ashley's crooks running the club put it that way Exactly, people moaning about not getting this 30m everyone's going on about. The board have back the manager but least there not bankrupting the club like a certain mr Murray did. Yes they could do better but we are a club and in a better situation than this time 3 years ago. True Hair Bear, Easton82 and MARK92GERS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 14,862 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, Ger_onimo said: After discussion the Board accepted this offer and employment was immediately terminated. Sure I read somewhere that the board meeting was last night Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlydon81 245 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, chris182 said: Not strictly true. It reads that their Agent offered their resignations which the Board accepted. Exactly what was offered will be subject to scrutiny but it's not immediately obvious that compo will definitely be payable. I don't agree - it reads like there was a negotiation but no offer.  Anyway Unless warburtons contract excludes the standard clause on resignation - they need a letter in writing.  Did MW not have to sign his employment contract or could the agent do it for him when he originally agreed it - this is Mickey Mouse from the board. i think the discussions did happen as described, the board thought they were gettting lucky as they can't afford to just sack him, MW didn't get the Forrest job and the board have tried to force through the suggested negotiations. incidentally if the employnent was immediately terminated why was MW in a press conference a few days later and only 4 hrs before they announced the resignation. Amateur hour from that feckin idiom DK Blue Avenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRARFC 77 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, cr3_bear said: Sure I read somewhere that the board meeting was last night They said it was yesterday on sky sports Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tommy WATP said: Transparency is a word lost on this board,  convenient after again campaigning on this promise as well. For me huge changes need to happen before I'll put my trust in this board. No more bullshit. There is no trust with this board and never will be. We will remain in the shadow of the scum with the mendacious one in control. It's either put up or shut up, because nothing is changing, that much is very clear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, cr3_bear said: Sure I read somewhere that the board meeting was last night But in the statement this part comes before the agent returns to move the goalposts, which must have been after Forest turned them down. Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlydon81 245 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said: People moaning that this will cost us if the board fucked up......are you the same folk calling for the board to sack them which would have also cost us. There is no way we'll be paying more than what we would if we sacked them outright so I don't understand that point. Agree that the first part is just wishy washy pish The extent of the compensation that's the difference.  If you terminate a contract and they take up enploent elsewhere then you don't shave to pay the full amount compensation. If you are accused of constructive dismissal then all bets are off and you could pay the full amount. it will also cost 6 figures in legal fees if it gets messy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,647 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 dirty snake cunts the 3 of them  well done RFC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 38 minutes ago, Dlydon81 said: F£&K ME! First part is complete BS and DK thinks we're all idiots by putting that out there. Second part, as much as probably true, confirms to me that no formal resignation has been received and we are going to end up paying MW and Co the full compensation for breach of contract. DK is a complete Moron and we are a F£&King laughing stock!   Dingbat squad and SoS will buy into it BareGrills and Dlydon81 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK92GERS 807 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, bennybongo said: I'm not putting much weight on that caveat. We have 12 million left, and are no further forward after spending 18 million so quickly. That's not really a hopeful sign. So correct me if I'm wrong here are you Implying that the teams a shower of shite then ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy WATP 86 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said: There is no trust with this board and never will be. We will remain in the shadow of the scum with the mendacious one in control. It's either put up or shut up, because nothing is changing, that much is very clear. Then Club1872 need to action on this statement. Simple as that, fans were lied to and King's statement confirms that today. Will we see any pressure from them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRARFC 77 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, bennybongo said: I'm not putting much weight on that caveat. We have 12 million left, and are no further forward after spending 18 million so quickly. That's not really a hopeful sign. That's because the man spending the money did so on a lot of shite ! Give 5-6m to a decent manager and he will sign good players Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybongo 110 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, CRARFC said: Exactly, people moaning about not getting this 30m everyone's going on about. The board have back the manager but least there not bankrupting the club like a certain mr Murray did. Yes they could do better but we are a club and in a better situation than this time 3 years ago. What do you mea?. Dave King has put in 18 of the 30. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,796 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Drumloyal said: This is how I see the timeline: Monday -  meeting between Robertson and agent Tuesday - takes the proposal to the board who discuss it Wednesday - agreed Thursday - forest give job to Brazil,  agent moves goalposts Friday - MW told to take presser while it's being mulled over.  MW talks usual shite and lies.  After presser the board decide not to defer resignation.  Plausible?   While your idea might turn out to be correct, surely the board would have been convened a meeting asap since this was an opportunity to to get rid of the management team as well. Why wait for two days in this day and age of communication. It just makes no sense to me. Turnberry18 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said: People moaning that this will cost us if the board fucked up......are you the same folk calling for the board to sack them which would have also cost us. There is no way we'll be paying more than what we would if we sacked them outright so I don't understand that point. Agree that the first part is just wishy washy pish We ARE a PR disaster nationwide. They needed sacked, but it had to be done correctly and professionally. Once again this board make a rip roaring cunt of it. We have a shower of fucking chancers running us and taking us nowhere. Dlydon81 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueOne 135 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 55 minutes ago, legalbeagle said: People who choose to not believe it will never believe anything and should probably stop demanding statements. It seems a pretty comprehensive statement about the whole situation. As it did yesterday, it seems that our management team thought they had a better offer, it collapsed and they tried to hang on while clearly not having full commitment. Simple as that.. Cheerio Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, TheLoudenTavernier said: Tbh I'm pretty happy with that statement apart from the blatant lie that we've invested £18m already. Would the 18mil include ST money?  I have no idea about money matters, except that King was right to express his concern that money spent and wasted on bum players is what we were all saying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Razza 44 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: all they things you mentioned in the first paragraph, while maybe needed, do not help bridge the gap to the tarriers that much, especially in the short term before coming to power, king always spoke about closing the gap, regaining our rightful place, front loading the money needed, well im sorry but RTV, fixing the stadium etc do not cover the fact that the tarriers have a better playing squad there is only one way to generate extra revenue as a scottish club, win things and play in europe, we wont do that by spunking money on shite like media stuff, RTV etc I completely agree with you when you say they don't help close the gap on the field to the tarriers that much. It's exactly why said I'm disappointed more money hasn't been made available to spend on bringing in signings with the same sort of monetary value as Joe Garner, the sort of money that would buy a better quality of player than most of what we've brought in. The point of mentioning those other things was to point out that just because the amount of money that has been put in hasn't all went on players doesn't mean it hasn't actually been put in, which is how some people are acting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, Tommy WATP said: I'll ask it in here, what's the 18m of investment received into the club? If plan was to get 2nd place why advertise going for 55? Fans bought into this in huge numbers and Club 1872 should be asking these questions. We are on 54 . So we are always going to be going for 55 . I hate the man but there is no criticism on this one from me Siam69 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said: Been reported in various places. Like the Sun , The Rhebel? There is nothing to confirm this. The Board would also have to pay them off. If they were going to sack them why did they only decide this week not to approve the contract extensions for Miller and Hill? The Board had no finance to sack them and the fact the under 20 coach manages the team tomorrow tells me they were not prepared for the departure of Warburton. The next Rangers manager will be unemployed at this moment in time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRARFC 77 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, bennybongo said: What do you mea?. Dave King has put in 18 of the 30. Yeah, spent the best part of 5-6m on players and with contracts/ contract extensions it makes it very close to that sum Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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