ScotBear 144 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'd like to get a firmer idea as to what your expectations are this season as it would make it easier to understand some of the early reaction on here. Obviously we want to win the league. But if we don't, is that curtains for Pedro ? Or is 2nd place the acceptable minimum, perhaps combined with being a lot closer to Celtic ? In our 04/05 season we dropped points in 3 of out first 5 league games and finished 1st. In 09/10 we drew league games 4,5 and 6 0-0.....and finished 1st. So history shows dropping points in the early league games need not be terminal to success. And that was in seasons when the expectation to win was surely greater. So if we are hoping for 1st but realistically looking for at least a strong showing in second.....why are we panicking after just 3 league games ? To the point of asking for the managers head. I understand if you didn't want Pedro in the first place. I get if you wanted him to go at the end of last season. But we didn't get rid, we kept him and backed him to bring in the right players....and so far I'd suggest the majority look to have improved our squad with more work hopefully to be done before the window closes. The results might not be what we hoped so far this season but it's too early to pass final judgements on Pedro and his newly assembled squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 We were never going to win the league this season anyway. The realistic aim was to close the gap and maybe win a trophy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I want us to win second comfortably while at least putting a challenge in Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBear 144 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Just now, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: We were never going to win the league this season anyway. The realistic aim was to close the gap and maybe win a trophy. Agreed, unfortunate as it is. Thats why I don't understand the severity of the reaction in these early league games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,413 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The treble and qualify for CL group stages, nothing less will do! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellshill_Bear 1,105 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Second comfortably with a cup and a few old firm victories Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighouse 1,012 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Not to be out of contention for the League before the August bank holiday Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,488 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 A treble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Comfortable second. A couple of Old Firm victories. A trophy. Neither of which will be achievable with Pedro. Act now and no reason why the above can't happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 If Pedro remains in charge I hope we can squeeze a 4th place finish, if an actual competent manager is appointed then second with perhaps a cup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,608 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Top Four which we will be saying for years under this board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, ScotBear said: Agreed, unfortunate as it is. Thats why I don't understand the severity of the reaction in these early league games. Are you serious? it could be the difference between finishing second or third again. It was Pedro himself after Motherwell opening day that said 37 Cup Finals to go. By his own admission he talks utter pish. He's an imposter. There's no over-reaction at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, ScotBear said: Agreed, unfortunate as it is. Thats why I don't understand the severity of the reaction in these early league games. We're 5 points behind them already and our next game is against a team that I'm sure we failed to beat last season. We could potentially be 7/8 points behind them before the transfer window closes. The reaction is justified. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,964 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 minute ago, ScotBear said: Agreed, unfortunate as it is. Thats why I don't understand the severity of the reaction in these early league games. Pedro lost alot of goodwill after the Progres game. And after losing every major challenge so far. He needed to start well and he hasn't so he deserves the stick he is getting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Plastic whistle in the cup could be pedro's banana skin noo ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The aim this season was always a comfortable second and maybe win a cup which is still achievable. I genuinely think we have the makings of a good squad and with 1 or 2 more additions at full back and forward areas we could have a decent season - even with Pedro in charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,488 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, ScotBear said: I'd like to get a firmer idea as to what your expectations are this season as it would make it easier to understand some of the early reaction on here. Obviously we want to win the league. But if we don't, is that curtains for Pedro ? Or is 2nd place the acceptable minimum, perhaps combined with being a lot closer to Celtic ? In our 04/05 season we dropped points in 3 of out first 5 league games and finished 1st. In 09/10 we drew league games 4,5 and 6 0-0.....and finished 1st. So history shows dropping points in the early league games need not be terminal to success. And that was in seasons when the expectation to win was surely greater. So if we are hoping for 1st but realistically looking for at least a strong showing in second.....why are we panicking after just 3 league games ? To the point of asking for the managers head. I understand if you didn't want Pedro in the first place. I get if you wanted him to go at the end of last season. But we didn't get rid, we kept him and backed him to bring in the right players....and so far I'd suggest the majority look to have improved our squad with more work hopefully to be done before the window closes. The results might not be what we hoped so far this season but it's too early to pass final judgements on Pedro and his newly assembled squad. Are we just gonny forget the two games against Celtic, the Aberdeen game at home, a draw v Motherwell and Hearts at home, Progres, and Hibs? His hard on for playing Miller 90 mins every week, same with Waghorn last season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I wanted Pedro to build a team that would beat all the rest of the spl so we couid stay on the taigs tails , 3 games in fucking shambles already , to be honest tho we should be expecting to win the league this is Glasgow Rangers , absolutely no chance tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 To be at worst the second best team in Scotland, at Rangers you're either 1st or 2nd, we're not even comfortably 2nd best just now which is embarrassing enough in itself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottyarf37 963 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 My expectations are reset after every game. After progress- hope for top 6 After Dumfermline _ top 2 After hibs_ top 5 After hearts_ a new manager.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBear 144 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 So to those that feel after just three league games it's time to sack Pedro.....do you not fear that it makes our club look brutal and unreasonable that we would look to back our manager, bring in his own players and then sack him after three league games ? If I was a manager assessing the prospect of committing to Rangers I think that sort of reactionary behaviour from our board would put me off. Im not saying Pedro will be successful but I think any fair minded neutral that is assessing it without the emotional involvement we have would say Pedro has to be given more time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Unfortunately and being realistic I am expecting 2nd place fairly clear of the rest and maybe a cup win. Next season though I would be looking for us to win the league Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBear 144 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Are we just gonny forget the two games against Celtic, the Aberdeen game at home, a draw v Motherwell and Hearts at home, Progres, and Hibs? His hard on for playing Miller 90 mins every week, same with Waghorn last season. I think when you back the manager going into a new season, when you back him to sign his own players.....there has to be an element of clean slate in terms of what happened last season. If not it would be an unhealthy overreaction to every early disappointment. Euriope is a relevant point but I think it's right we separate it from the potential to have a good league campaign. Remember Unirea ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: We were never going to win the league this season anyway. The realistic aim was to close the gap and maybe win a trophy. Throw in get rid of the deadwood and bring in some quality players. Pedro has done that but now needs to get the team winning the bigish games and I want to see septic defeated by us this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 De Boer on radio Sportsound today saying it will take another two seasons before we can challenge the scum. Big Eck recons the Sheep will be second, so we'll be battling for Third. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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