jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, CoatbridgeBear said: Where did I even mention they 2? They 2 are both fuckin dross aswell. Bates has been our best defender and at only 20 he is only going to get better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,771 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I like Hamburg but this thread shows not many people have a clue about German football or where Hamburg are and have been for a number of years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd9her 307 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, markem said: As much as I’d have rather kept him how anyone can say poor from the club is beyond me. We have no idea what they are willing to pay him. Should we have paid him more regardless? The point being he should have been tied down on a long term contract months ago. Watched so much talent walk out the door for nothing over the last 10 years. Club run by amateurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGovanIniesta 1,000 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Must be some budget king is giving Allen and the new manager. It’ll need to be, as soon as the summer window slammed shut we were still short of 4/5 players for quality and depth. Thats before we need to get rid of the 15 hangers on taking up about 100+k a week, Bates and possibly Morelos too, madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bronzy said: While I appreciate all he's done for us, the fact he's our best defender bar McCrorie at the moment sums up how bad we are right now. Need to sign some decent CBs in the summer. He's a better defender than McCrorie imo. I like Ross but he is better played further forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, .Williamson. said: I like Hamburg but this thread shows not many people have a clue about German football or where Hamburg are and have been for a number of years Cunts have scraped their baws off for years just to stay up, they’re fodder. Lost 6 goals plus to Bayern in 3 of the last 4 years. They’re pish, Bates is pish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,916 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: He’s young he’s the best of the current CB. Now unless you know the 4 CB’s we are singing in the summer and they a good step up from Bates then your only guessing if this is a good tho for the club. Also walked away for fuck all so we have no sell on clause if he does kick on at Hamburg. Exactly he walked away from the club. His choice no one else's. Struggling to believe the disappointment cos a very average player who's played around 10 full games for us is leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, jjbscotty12 said: Bates has been our best defender and at only 20 he is only going to get better. That’s irrelevant though, you said I said Martin & Alves have been better. So explain that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,916 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Boyd9her said: The point being he should have been tied down on a long term contract months ago. Watched so much talent walk out the door for nothing over the last 10 years. Club run by amateurs Can you give examples of all this talent please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,771 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, CoatbridgeBear said: Cunts have scraped their baws off for years just to stay up, they’re fodder. Lost 6 goals plus to Bayern in 3 of the last 4 years. They’re pish, Bates is pish. Been saying it for about 3 years now but they’d be better off being relegated and rebuilding. Every year they celebrate just about remaining in the league through the playoffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Canny agree mate, superb at Pittodrie twice as well, good defender for us apart from his distribution Been decent mate but we need so much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,287 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, Boyd9her said: The point being he should have been tied down on a long term contract months ago. Watched so much talent walk out the door for nothing over the last 10 years. Club run by amateurs iirc we made him an offer some time ago. Without knowing what that offer was it’s hard to draw any conclusion. Run by amateurs I won’t argue with you on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, piperpete said: Maybe his demands were far too high and we thought we would get greater value bringing someone else in in the summer. sad to lose a young Scott but he wasn’t an outstanding player to take us forward. He's better than what we have in Alves Cardoso and Martin and still young enough to improve we will struggle to get anyone to take those high earners from us. This board is stupid and naive why let a contract run down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysblue 709 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 No great loss to be honest. Never saw him as a long term player. However I do wish him all the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 He was vastly overrated by our fans. He's largely unproven and there's just as much chance of him being a flop as there is a success. If Bates primary interest was money then good luck to him and I hope he fills his coffers over in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wully 47,751 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Never rated him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I'd like to know whether this was because we didn't rate him enough to pay him more, whether he simply wanted to move to pastures new, whether we have other targets in mind. The club should tell us what the score is. Struggling to get away from the bottom line that, whatever the reason is, we shouldn't ever be left in a situation where a good club like Hamburg takes a young guy from us for nothing. Clearly they think there's something there, even if some of us don't, and if so we should be cashing in on that at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 the problem with us developing our players is that - as soon as they look decent - they are off for better wages. Good luck to the lad - he could certainly defend - but fucking hell this feels like a sore one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,687 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, CoatbridgeBear said: Been decent mate but we need so much better. Maybe mate, but we thought we had signed better than him in the summer/January windows and that failed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sasa'onlyPLGsuccess'Papac said: Exactly he walked away from the club. His choice no one else's. Struggling to believe the disappointment cos a very average player who's played around 10 full games for us is leaving. Because he had the makings of a good solid defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris1984 1,272 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Disgrace we’ve let the best defender at the club, who is young, on low wages leave for fuck all. Shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: Maybe mate, but we thought we had signed better than him in the summer/January windows and that failed That says more about the bigger picture sadly, what a mess man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd9her 307 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sasa'onlyPLGsuccess'Papac said: Can you give examples of all this talent please? Barrie Mckay, Lewis McLeod, Billy Gilmour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,317 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Thought this was a piss take but obviously not. Unbelievable, can’t even hold on to defenders with under a season’s experience. They must’ve offered stupid cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,436 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Needed 2 new starting cbs so not much has changed for us. Not that fussed about it really. Good luck to him and cant blame him for going abroad and more money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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