Sparkle 53,589 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, govanblue said: Say it louder. No. I won’t be doing or saying anything that gets stands closed at Ibrox. surfsup2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, govanblue said: Say it louder. Thats the spirit. Maybe if we try hard enough we can beat Legia then get papped out of the EL group stages without kicking a ball in them. surfsup2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 26,925 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: Get it up ye ya sympathiser Sympathising with what exactly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Sparkle said: No. I won’t be doing or saying anything that gets stands closed at Ibrox. yes you will. As soon as they win with fenian, they'll pick something else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, The Dude said: It's utterly pointless. 'Every cunt else' here means celtic in truth and it's fucking pathetic. What about the neo nazi banners n salutes of certain Serbian teams?? What about the ultra Mussolini Italian teams who nazi salute and sing songs despising Jews?? What about the over the top pyrotechnics cresting fire safety issues in polish, Turkish, Greek clubs?? What about top central European sides who's hooligan element run amok in visiting European cities carrying weapons???. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Thats the spirit. Maybe if we try hard enough we can get beat Legia then get papped out of the EL group stages without kicking a ball in them. Right is right. If everyone did as you suggested, our women would still be taking their frustrations out on our slaves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, falkirkNS said: What about the neo nazi banners n salutes of certain Serbian teams?? What about the ultra Mussolini Italian teams who nazi salute and sing songs despising Jews?? What about the over the top pyrotechnics cresting fire safety issues in polish, Turkish, Greek clubs?? What about top central European sides who's hooligan element run amok in visiting European cities carrying weapons???. Like Partizan Belgrade whove just had their stadium closed for several games by UEFA? coopsleftboot and To Be A Ranger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, govanblue said: Right is right. If everyone did as you suggested, our women would still be taking their frustrations out on our slaves. So what bit of discriminatory chanting is right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, The Dude said: So what bit of discriminatory chanting is right? What is discriminatory about public opposition to a philosophy that opposes so many of the things we hold dearest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 GovanBlue is right in his assertion that they won't stop with TBB or Fenian. They'll spend the next few years turning Simply the Best or Blue Sea of Ibrox into something hateful or bigoted and then be demanding we stop singing that as well. alibali59, Billythebear77 and BridgeIsBlue 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: Get it up ye ya sympathiser Tell you what, go to Ibrox, go to away games and keep blasting out your culture and get it right up uefa and the fenian bastards. That’ll show them who they’re fuckin dealing with eh? Once we’ve been kicked out of Europe, all our quality players and management staff have fucked off and they reach 55 before us...can we come round and kick your cunt in then? ...or do you think you could park the extremes of your culture at the Ibrox gates and get behind the club and team and build our reputation and swat these fuckers aside? If your “culture” is more important than that and you refuse to park it maybe you should just stay away. surfsup2 and George McLean 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, govanblue said: so many of the things we hold dearest. sorry I should also have said, and our country holds dearest. Things like keeping our territory, not hoping to see our troops die abroad, not bombing our elected representatives. that kind of thing. BridgeIsBlue, RFC Eagle and Getstiffed 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, coopsleftboot said: Tell you what, go to Ibrox, go to away games and keep blasting out your culture and get it right up uefa and the fenian bastards. That’ll show them who they’re fuckin dealing with eh? Once we’ve been kicked out of Europe, all our quality players and management staff have fucked off and they reach 55 before us...can we come round and kick your cunt in then? ...or do you think you could park the extremes of your culture at the Ibrox gates and get behind the club and team and build our reputation and swat these fuckers aside? If your “culture” is more important than that and you refuse to park it maybe you should just stay away. Get it up ye ya keyboard Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, falkirkNS said: What about the neo nazi banners n salutes of certain Serbian teams?? What about the ultra Mussolini Italian teams who nazi salute and sing songs despising Jews?? What about the over the top pyrotechnics cresting fire safety issues in polish, Turkish, Greek clubs?? What about top central European sides who's hooligan element run amok in visiting European cities carrying weapons???. This doesn't matter a fuck. We are under pressure to remove Fenian references from our songs. So just do it. Arguing " but but but what about ..." is nothing to do with us. No matter what the argument is, we have to stop singing about Fenian blood/bastards inside football grounds. Siam69, Sparkle and surfsup2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, govanblue said: What is discriminatory about public opposition to a philosophy that opposes so many of the things we hold dearest. There are many ways to oppose a philosophy without singing about fenian blood and fenian bastards. Not quite sure why Rangers v St Joseph's is the appropriate forum for that opposition. Maybe we can have some anti Brexit songs next. Or songs opposing Islamic fundamentalism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, govanblue said: sorry I should also have said, and our country holds dearest. Things like keeping our territory, not having our troops dying abroad, not bombing our elected representatives. that kind of thing. We took them in. We fed them, clothed them, housed them and they've repaid us by blowing us up and raping our children. And now they have the temerity to tell us our culture is the problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, To Be A Ranger said: It's only a note asking that people behave at the game. Don't know how anyone can see that as an attack on the support, culture, heritage etc. And why refer to the scum behaviour elsewhere FFS. What's that got to do with it. Enjoy the game but don't misbehave. No big deal. Yep, we need to sort ourself out first. If we are sqeaky clean then we can take the moral high ground and point out what others are doing. Otherwise its seen as deflection and carries no weight whatsover. Siam69 and surfsup2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluedoo 2,652 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Tearing strips off one and other, calling each other cunt's like you and telling each other to fuck off if we cant behave how some would like is exactly what our haters want, divide and conquer is usually used in these terms but that would lend to much credit to the agitators of this latest round of attacks. We most certainly need now to band together and box clever on this issue, I certainly don't have all the answers but we must now take this shot across the bows seriously, we give nothing up by dropping these so called offensive words because if they are in the countless videos on Youtube and our haters know exactly what these tunes mean, here's a thought can we still get punished for whistling these tunes? it works for the flute bands what to stop us having a couple of flutes and playing the tunes but without uttering the words I am quite sure that would have their heads exploding (sounds daft) but we need to move forward together not by attacking the opposing position on this you have to meet in the middle, we have survived so much worse than having to adapt a songsheet guys, pull together not apart, this site will be like pornhub to our enemies laughing at us tearing down our own. Think about it guys, together we are some force for good. We should focus on our common good not our differences Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Getstiffed said: GovanBlue is right in his assertion that they won't stop with TBB or Fenian. They'll spend the next few years turning Simply the Best or Blue Sea of Ibrox into something hateful or bigoted and then be demanding we stop singing that as well. Without being able to legitimise it then it would be meaningless. Lets use our black and red socks as an example. They can insist thats to signify being uo to our knees in fenian blood but without any way of backing that up then it gets laughed out. Thats why its worked with fenian. Its been used so loosely over decades that it can be argued that it is used as a derogatory term for someone perceived RC/Irish RC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dude said: There are many ways to oppose a philosophy without singing about fenian blood and fenian bastards. Not quite sure why Rangers v St Joseph's is the appropriate forum for that opposition. Maybe we can have some anti Brexit songs next. Or songs opposing Islamic fundamentalism. We could if the same sort of lefty wankers that are after us hadn't convinced the world that opposing an Ideology or Religion is racist. So now instead of having debates about which culture is superior people like me are forced to spend 90% of our time defending ourselves against allegations of racism. falkirkNS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: Tell you what, go to Ibrox, go to away games and keep blasting out your culture and get it right up uefa and the fenian bastards. That’ll show them who they’re fuckin dealing with eh? Once we’ve been kicked out of Europe, all our quality players and management staff have fucked off and they reach 55 before us...can we come round and kick your cunt in then? ...or do you think you could park the extremes of your culture at the Ibrox gates and get behind the club and team and build our reputation and swat these fuckers aside? If your “culture” is more important than that and you refuse to park it maybe you should just stay away. dark days ahead indeed. We should take inspiration from Winston Churchill, when a virtually defeated Britain stood at the mercy of The Greater Nazi Reich. If I recall correctly, he surrendered. falkirkNS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Dude said: There are many ways to oppose a philosophy without singing about fenian blood and fenian bastards. Not quite sure why Rangers v St Joseph's is the appropriate forum for that opposition. Maybe we can have some anti Brexit songs next. Or songs opposing Islamic fundamentalism. I doubt many people see Brexit as quite the same threat to their way of life as fenianism. Anti Islamism - you may have a point - I guess once it starts having the same kind of impact on our way of life as fenianism is currently enjoying, then yes maybe. Even darker days ahead then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Getstiffed said: GovanBlue is right in his assertion that they won't stop with TBB or Fenian. They'll spend the next few years turning Simply the Best or Blue Sea of Ibrox into something hateful or bigoted and then be demanding we stop singing that as well. Only if Fenian bastards is added into the songs. TBB is not being banned it's a couple of words. If the words cannot be changed then obviously the song can't be sung. The attacks on us won't stop but without the offending words they won't have a leg stand on surfsup2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, govanblue said: I doubt many people see Brexit as quite the same threat to their way of life as fenianism. Anti Islamism - you may have a point - I guess once it starts having the same kind of impact on our way of life as fenianism is currently enjoying, then yes maybe. Even darker days ahead then. The IRA surrendered a long time ago. They aren't a threat to anyone's way of life (other than the coke dealers the work with). Islamic terrorism has killed more British civilians on British soil, more British servicemen and committed more atrocities against British interests in the last 25 years than 'fenianism'. Youre looking at a bad guy that doesnt really exist anymore. Certainly aren't a threat to the country's way of life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Dude said: There are many ways to oppose a philosophy without singing about fenian blood and fenian bastards. I think you will find that throughout history, song has been one of the most effective instruments of change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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