ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Yeah, I don't suppose he wants to stay to actually prove himself and show he can bring something to the team. He obviously wants to stay in a foreign country, where he can barely speak the language, just to get money for doing fuck all, even though he could probably get a move back to Spain. Sounds like every footballer's dream scenario eh! McCoist clearly doesn't want him. So whats the point? he will be getting money for fuck all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddy 7 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I can barely even remember him now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh Salim 215 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Unlike Gregg Wylde - Good Pace but no control or skill.Gregg Wylde will never make it at Rangers properly until he works on the above, but most importantly, using his right foot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh Salim 215 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 McCoist clearly doesn't want him. So whats the point? he will be getting money for fuck all.Ally signed him. I daresay if I was Ortiz I would be wanting to show the gaffer what I can do and that I'm not a total dud. Male pride and all that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart54 218 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Gregg Wylde will never make it at Rangers properly until he works on the above, but most importantly, using his right foot.Using his left foot looks like a problem too.Dont like having a go at Gers players but I said as far back as last season that this boy wasnt ready for the first team - and he still isnt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,106 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Play him as an attacking midfielder and not as a wrong winger Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 We actually need his wages freed up. And i mean, need! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coplandbear11 1,087 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hes getting ££ for nothing so why would he want to move. Fucking joke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRodgA2k8 542 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Well Ortiz was signed as a winger...and he doesn't have the attributes for that position, looks more a centre midfielder but again would that surprise anyone if that really was his true position? Great he wants to stay and fight for his place, but I can't see where he fits in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdog19 16 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 While I would like to see him get more of a chance his wages could be freed up to allow us to potentially sign a striker. He's 29 too, if he was a younger player then I would be more inclined to keep him, but he's not. Should be looking to move him on, whether it be a loan deal somewhere or a permanent move. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab_Rangers 38 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Fair play to him, I don't think he's as bad as people make out. He hasn't really had much of a chance on the right hand side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Not as bad as everyone makes outMuch better than bedoya and kerkar who get game timeKerkar is better IMHO, maybe not technically as good as ortiz but he certainly offers more to the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 "I want to play for Rangers. I have no problem with the club and have never been in conflict with the coach"This could be what you would euphemistically interpret as meaning "I'm going nowhere till I get a pay-off!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Totally agree mate, he's played well in some games and we've took 13 out of 15 points in the league games he's started.Played well against Liverpool, Motherwell, Malmo(a), ICT and Dunfermline in the second half. Was decent against Dundee United as well.People are judging him mainly on the terrible team performances against Hearts, Malmo(h) and Maribor ties.He was alright against Hearts and scored against Maribor too . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab_Rangers 38 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Totally agree mate, he's played well in some games and we've took 13 out of 15 points in the league games he's started.Played well against Liverpool, Motherwell, Malmo(a), ICT and Dunfermline in the second half. Was decent against Dundee United as well.People are judging him mainly on the terrible team performances against Hearts, Malmo(h) and Maribor ties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBagalag 726 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Dont know why we don't give him a run out at RB, he's played there before and could be better than we have. Maybe start him against a team with a less pacy left side to see how he goes. Really hope he gets a chance as I believe he may have something to offer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,116 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 He was alright against Hearts and scored against Maribor too .I thought he was poor in the Hearts game, their RB had him on toast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrox_Nights 429 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'll say it again, it didn't help his cause one bit by being described as a fast tricky player who would get bums off seats. I have no idea how anyone watching him in La Liga could ever have described him as that. He very rarely played on the wing and isn't a winger in any shape or form, however, an arse-up was made somewhere along the line as he seemingly was brought in to play as a winger for us. Doesn't make him a bad player, he's technically very sound and a nice passer. Unfortunately people heard Spanish winger signed from La Liga and people had flashing Laudrup type lights going off in their heads.We don't exactly ever play with wing backs, which arguably would be his best position so I'd say he'd then be best played at right CM, though he was hardly going to dislodge Davis when he was off form, let alone when he's back on form and official club captain. Even if Davis was out, I doubt he'd get a run there anyway as we seem to have an abundance of people who rightly or wrongly play CM for us.If he does get back into the team I'd assume it would be at RM and I just do not see him being what people both want and expect him to be. I know RM doesn't need to be a winger, but I'd say RM isn't even a position where he will excel for us in the SPL, let alone when many will still expect him to beat three men when he gets the ball. It just aint gonna happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Wage bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Prob should have started on the right ahead of WyldeGood shout, with Wylde on the left instead of WallaceSquare pegs is square holes?Do you think it will ever catch on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 would be a better option on the right than wylde. drop Wallace and shift wylde to the left and bring him in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
demise 3,581 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I would really like to see Ortiz at RB, instead of Bartley. I only watched the 2nd half yesterday, but i wasnt convinced he is the right choise for a regular place in that position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyprusBear 1 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Was played mainly as a RB at Almeria so give the boy a chance there. He's not a winger whos going to get us all excited. The sooner ally realises just cause he is spanish doesnt mean he is going to be a tricky player. He is good on the ball so lets play him at RB and try playing out from the back!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,106 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I like Ortiz if he is played more central.He has good ball control and skill but is not a winger and should not be played as one but hey we're Rangers.Papac and Wallace(left wingers)Whittaker(right winger)Wylde(right winger)Bartley(right back)McCulloch(everywhere)Lafferty(left winger)Naismith(left winger)Ortiz(left winger)Davis(right winger)Edu(right back)Wylde is our natural left sided player and guess where we play him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2daludaludalu 390 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I would really like to see Ortiz at RB, instead of Bartley. I only watched the 2nd half yesterday, but i wasnt convinced he is the right choise for a regular place in that position.Agree 100% with this. He played a fair amount of games at right back and left back with almeira, and I think he is worth a try at rb instead of bartley, and who knows there's a good chance he's a better rb than Whittaker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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