Jimfanciesthedude 24,560 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 What's the chances of Rangers as we know disappearing?pretty high Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mor3los_1 3,672 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Just listened to Paul Murray interview on Real Radio - thought he came across very well.Said he has had people who have come forward that mey be interested in being part of a consortium. Will lodge an interest with administrators so he can speak to them to dicuss idea and find out real debt level.Clearly has no time for Whyte and asks if he is a fit and proper person to run the club? Sounds promising fingers crossed.Where were these people before Whyte purchased the club. I trust Paul Murray less than i trust Whyte due to the fact he spent so much time on the board then pulled £25 million out of his arse at the last minute. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laudrupno1 3,932 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Love that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethepeople1 3,897 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Just listened to Paul Murray interview on Real Radio - thought he came across very well.Said he has had people who have come forward that mey be interested in being part of a consortium. Will lodge an interest with administrators so he can speak to them to dicuss idea and find out real debt level.Clearly has no time for Whyte and asks if he is a fit and proper person to run the club? Sounds promising fingers crossed.Would he being saying this if we weren't in administration? No he wouldn'tIt was inevitable that we would have to be out into administration for the club to progressIf he is to buy us then I wouldn't be surprised if he had a deal with whyte all along They get whyte in for a while and put us into admin they ride in as the saviours of rangersWhyte gets a decent pay off, basically payment for being "the guy who put us into administration" and he is never to be seen againThey new owner buy rangers at a cut price saving them a fortune, become the saviours of rangers in the eyes of the fans and get all the glory, plaudits, media attention etcNone of this would have happened if we were not put into administration.It HAD to happenIf this is the way it pans out then fair play to whyte for having the balls to do it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebear1971 54 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Would he being saying this if we weren't in administration? No he wouldn'tIt was inevitable that we would have to be out into administration for the club to progressIf he is to buy us then I wouldn't be surprised if he had a deal with whyte all along They get whyte in for a while and put us into admin they ride in as the saviours of rangersWhyte gets a decent pay off, basically payment for being "the guy who put us into administration" and he is never to be seen againThey new owner buy rangers at a cut price saving them a fortune, become the saviours of rangers in the eyes of the fans and get all the glory, plaudits, media attention etcNone of this would have happened if we were not put into administration.It HAD to happenIf this is the way it pans out then fair play to whyte for having the balls to do itYou may well be right but the way he spoke about Whyte I doubt very much they are in this together. Although I don't know much I think a consortium sounds a better way to go on rather than relying on one person. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madina 3,839 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 A few quick questions:How long are we likely to be in Administration for? When would liquidation occur (time wise, weeks, months, years?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpstar 16 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Traynor has just said that he's 99% certain we will go into liquidation.......without giving any explanation whatsoever of why he so strongly believes this !Administrator has told assembly in a conference call that liquidation is remote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,096 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Traynor is a prick. . If we go into liquidation ill be holding a whip round for a hit man for sdm Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBear 144 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Administrator has told assembly in a conference call that liquidation is remote.Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,108 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Administrator has told assembly in a conference call that liquidation is remote.See tbh mate, id bold that and start a new thread. Not that people will listen but if you keep repeating it they may well Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelle1880 225 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 As for those administrators:Meanwhile, it has emerged that David Grier, a partner at Rangers administrators Duff and Phelps, was centrally involved in Craig Whyte's takeover from previous owner Sir David Murray.As emails obtained by BBC Scotland show, he even assured the previous board that Mr Whyte's bid had already secured a "time to pay" deal with HMRC. This has led one academic to raise concerns over the appointment of Duff and Phelps as Rangers' administrators.Steven Morrow, senior lecturer in sport finance at Stirling University, said: "If there is evidence of a prior relationship between those involved in an administrative capacity and the directors of Rangers Football Club, then I think that would raise concerns among some of the creditors."This is because the role of the administrator is to be independent, to look after the interests of all the creditors, not to be seen to have any particular interest in one group of creditors."Their job is to try to make sure the organisation is a going concern but protect the interests of all creditors and that's what the process is about."Duff and Phelps has denied any conflict of interest in acting as administrators.In a statement, the firm said: "The appointment of D&P was approved by the Court of Session in Edinburgh and the appointment was agreed to by HMRC."Indeed, HMRC withdrew their application to have an administrator of their choice appointed and are now engaging with D&P as the administration progresses."There is no conflict of interest whatsoever as it is standard practice for companies to appoint their own administrators, who usually have provided advice on restructuring in the build up to an insolvency." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,108 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Emails obtained by BBC?? Who the fuck gave them to them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamb 126 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Will the administrator eventually tell us where all the money actually went to? and Is there a chance that someone could be prosecuted for theft or fraud? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markybear 136 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Will the administrator eventually tell us where all the money actually went to? and Is there a chance that someone could be prosecuted for theft or fraud?It's a £10million black hole, AKA Craig whytes wallet Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 As emails obtained by BBC Scotland show, he even assured the previous boardEmails to the previous board now in the hands of the BBC. Utterly disgusting, the lot of them. :angry: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnbear 30 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Don't know if this has been posted, stole it from a poster on FF.Can anybody confirm ?Just received this from my area delegate.Representatives from the Rangers Supporters Assembly took part in a telephone conference call with one of the administrators, Paul Clark of Duff and Phelps, this evening.Paul reaffirmed the key messages in their statement issued earlier today and the key points that were clarified in our discussions were:-Saturday's match will go ahead-Season tickets will remain valid for the remaining home matches-Tickets purchased for Inverness next weekend will be valid-Constructive meetings have been held with key stakeholders - HMRC, SFA, Police, Auditors - and these will continue-Unlikely there will be audited accounts or an AGM, however, all the financial affairs will be fully examined-Strong assurance that the Club will emerge from administration and liquidation is extremely remote-Paul was not yet in a position to determine how long the period of administration may last but stated that he saw the administration as temporary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSifter 181 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I understand the hysteria but really, what is the point?Murray stuck it up the supports arse day in, day out and the majority of people said thank you. Rangers have been badly run since at least 1998 and given the current situation administration was inevitable. I don't trust Whyte but he's just doing the dirty work that had to be done. David Murray destroyed the Club in just about every way yet escapes scot free. All we can do is support McCoist and the team whilst waiting for events to unfold off the park. Travelrug and Mor3los_1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietofWorms 2,063 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I understand the hysteria but really, what is the point?Murray stuck it up the supports arse day in, day out and the majority of people said thank you. Rangers have been badly run since at least 1998 and given the current situation administration was inevitable. I don't trust Whyte but he's just doing the dirty work that had to be done. David Murray destroyed the Club in just about every way yet escapes scot free. All we can do is support McCoist and the team whilst waiting for events to unfold off the park.This is way too sensible. Mor3los_1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I don't trust Whyte but he's just doing the dirty work that had to be done.I think this is a perfectly justifiable position to hold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry handsome 629 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Whyte is doing someone else's dirty work, ask yourself this, would you pay in excess of 50m to pay off someone else's debt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto1992 0 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hey can you give this a read and see if you agree with me http://wp.me/p25EUA-2DCheers guys Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markybear 136 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Raman Bhardwaj (@STVRaman)2/15/12 10:32 PMWe are told Rangers story will be 'flooded with fresh developments' over next 10 days. Administrators will meet players tomorrow. stv.tvDread to think what this will be Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I understand the hysteria but really, what is the point?Murray stuck it up the supports arse day in, day out and the majority of people said thank you. Rangers have been badly run since at least 1998 and given the current situation administration was inevitable. I don't trust Whyte but he's just doing the dirty work that had to be done. David Murray destroyed the Club in just about every way yet escapes scot free. All we can do is support McCoist and the team whilst waiting for events to unfold off the park.No wonder Murray was so desperate to get out the picture, wanted to be well out the way by the time this shit inevitable unfolded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beattie72 170 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Raman Bhardwaj (@STVRaman)2/15/12 10:32 PMWe are told Rangers story will be 'flooded with fresh developments' over next 10 days. Administrators will meet players tomorrow. stv.tvDread to think what this will be This terrifies me. Sounds like major redundancies are on the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,108 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Raman Bhardwaj (@STVRaman)2/15/12 10:32 PMWe are told Rangers story will be 'flooded with fresh developments' over next 10 days. Administrators will meet players tomorrow. stv.tvDread to think what this will be Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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