North Rd 2,860 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 RANGERS and the game’s governing bodies are on another collision course over an outstanding debt.Dundee United revealed yesterday they are still waiting for £31,031.20 due from a Scottish Cup tie at Ibrox last February.But Rangers continued to insist they had paid their Scottish football dues and their row with the SPL is now likely to be kicked up to the SFA for a ruling.However, in a further twist it can be disclosed the Ibrox club themselves have had to wait for the SFA to release £800,000 owed to them. That money was sent to Scottish football’s governing body from Southampton via their own association as payment for the transfer of Steve Davis.Charles Green was still salvaging Rangers at the time and felt it appropriate the fee go to the SFA instead of into his Sevco account.Yesterday a Hampden source revealed that because the money was with the SFA it was suggested by Green they proceed to pay the club’s outstanding Scottish football debts.But almost a week later he discovered they hadn’t. Not only that, according to the source the SFA had no intention of making payments.Green, it is understood, paid the debts – but not United’s £31,000 – from the Rangers account as soon as he’d been alerted but then couldn’t get his Davis money back from the SFA.Apparently the people authorised to sign off cheques were on holiday.United have been careful not to say who should pay them but they should have been settled in full by now, especially as it is unclear when SPL clubs will get their hands on TV money.Normally they’d have received their first payments – around £675,000 each – by now but the renegotiations with broadcasters after Rangers went into liquidation have ensured the cash hasn’t started flowing yet.Last night the SPL still couldn’t say when the payouts, which will be lower than usual, will be made but they are likely to get something before United will see any of the money due from the Ibrox cup-tie.Rangers insist the SPL agreed they would pay and have a letter, dated May 18, which states the debt would be taken out of SPL money owed to them.This was before liquidation and afterwards the SPL withheld around £1.2m Gers were due for finishing second.The SPL will argue the letter is no longer relevant because it was sent to the business which went into liquidation and United’s debt should be paid by the newco.They are adamant the five-way agreement – between the SFA, SPL, SFL, Sevco and The Rangers Football Club PLC (in adminstration) – which allowed Rangers to get an SFA licence makes it clear who should settle outstanding debts.But Rangers are furious and determined to hold the SPL to the wording of that May letter.Green said: “We wrote to United on Monday explaining the SPL had previously confirmed they would pay it.“I spoke to Stewart Regan and his solicitor today and provided them with relevant documentation.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I look forward to the cheque being handed over! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beattie72 170 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Can we file to put them into administration ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Ding ding ding round 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayq81 231 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Go get them Mr Green, the fucking rancid bastards are hanging by a thread it wont take much to kill them off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilko89 507 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Couldn't run a catalogue Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamie 4,851 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Regan and his solicitor... there it is again!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelf 1,153 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Can we file to put them into administration ?I would Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I hope we get the interest the bastards have earned on it as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,232 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 so we'll be one of the creditors when the SPL goes into admin,oh the irony Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Cameron 179 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 They haven't handed over the Davis money?! Seriously that is absolutely ridiculous Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Cameron 179 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I appreciate the anger regarding admin but Green has been straight with this lot from the off and agreed to their demands regarding prize money as Scottish football debts. That money was handed over by Southampton in good faith and since we now have our football license there can be no reasonable grounds to withhold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hmmm. This could get interesting. The spl trying to get out of paying money because of the newco situation then demanding we pay money because to oldco was due that money. This is fucking laughable. Two faced cunts. If our newco should have to pay spl debts, the spl should give our newco money that we are owed. It cant be new club when they owe money but new club when they owe us money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Take them to court, then get the bailiffs to call round Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broxi74 127 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Can we file to put them into administration ?that wud be fukin marvelous Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Cameron 179 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The agreement to pay 800k was between southampton and rangers. The only reason it wasn't paid direct is we did not hold a football license so Southampton could not make payment to us. The sfa holding it was anAmicable solution. What business do they have interfereing in a commercial agreement?The incompetence is astonishing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj1972 4 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 When we took them to court over the transfer ban and we won was the Sfa not supposed to pay our court fees too. Will they have paid them and do you think they would have took it out the money owed to us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,000 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The incompetence is astonishingSome would say bitterness and vindictiveness, rather than rank incompetence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
choochooblue 342 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 We are no longer vulnerable , there is no more apathy amongst the support who now have a renewed strength within . I hope and believe Charles Green will not back down on this issue , it may be an insignificant amount of money but there is a moral principle to this . I want the corrupt authorities to feel the full force of our club on this one . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmytto 220 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 When we took them to court over the transfer ban and we won was the Sfa not supposed to pay our court fees too. Will they have paid them and do you think they would have took it out the money owed to us.We were made to pay them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj1972 4 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 We were made to pay them.Why!? was that another condition to us getting our membership? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblueyonder 11,158 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 all very well Green agreeing them to keep the money.. but legally I'd question it, I'm sure D&P and finally BDO will.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,000 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 all very well Green agreeing them to keep the money.. but legally I'd question it, I'm sure D&P and finally BDO will..I've said before I'm more than passing concerned about what will happen when the liquidators get involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonRFC82 305 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I've said before I'm more than passing concerned about what will happen when the liquidators get involved.Maybe D&P/BDO are playing a blinder here, by allowing SPL to come forward with this ridiculous argument that the agreement to make payment to Dundee Hibs was between SPL & Oldco...they are taking the football club out of the equation and making it a business decision between SPL Ltd & Rangers PLC (oldco). By doing so, this means that the 5 party agreement that Green signed waiving our right to the prize money has nothing to do with the club but instead was on behald of Rangers Ltd (newco) and therefore oldco would have every right to chase it, and could even use SPL's stance on the £30k to Dundee Hibs as evidence to support their case!If they hold off doing so until after they distribute our prize money to other clubs (mostly to Scum FC ) and after they pay out the first installment of TV cash then it is very likely they would be unable to pay the Oldco should they lose and could legally be declared insolvent! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hmmm. This could get interesting. The spl trying to get out of paying money because of the newco situation then demanding we pay money because to oldco was due that money. This is fucking laughable. Two faced cunts. If our newco should have to pay spl debts, the spl should give our newco money that we are owed. It cant be new club when they owe money but new club when they owe us money.If it was up to the cunts in the sfa, spl, Scottish media and fans off all the diddy clubs then this is exactly what it means, doh Thank fuck we have a man in charge with a huge set off balls, that won't just bend over and take it.The fight has just begun........ bring it on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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