JM1872 3,776 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I play on 4G three times a week. I love it. It is perfect for good footballers.You'll know what it's like then. Going from the slick, watered grass surfaces at Ibrox to that dry 4G can be tricky to adjust to. It's not as bad as some people make out and I enjoy it, especially when it's raining/been watered. I do remember, however, the first one we played on... Berwick perhaps? and it was very slow which we seemed to struggle with.It's not an excuse however. They are professionals and some of them are very good. Despite the stats, we're being beaten on footballing style today and the lads need to pick it up. Bring on McKay for Shiels, that man needs a talking to and isn't as quick as I thought. We've been unlucky not to go ahead but in saying that, despite good saves from their keeper, our finishing has been terrible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,565 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 The commentators said earlier that we haven't trained on 3G all week which is SHOCKING IMHO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,257 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I play on 4G three times a week. I love it. It is perfect for good footballers.Its perfect for a certain kind of football you mean. Its certainly not a perfect surface, especially when cold. Im not using it as an excuse for our performance, but anyone suggesting its a perfect playing surface is fuckin at it, its not. The ball bounces wildly, tacklins a nightmare, theres a danger of catching your foot as you land or turn. Perfect my arse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Yeah I've noticed this with Shiels this season, really has struggled to make an impact, or certainly the kind of impact expected of him.Things looked like they had picked up over the past couple of weeks, but today we've regressed back to our early season form and the players are going to have to dig deep and raise the tempo to go away with three points.I actually think his best games were when he was out wide and when he partnered McCulloch right up top. This in the hole crap doesn't suit him, although it should with his style. We cannot play with one up front, it doesn't suit us and affects how our team plays as a unit. Little should be playing centre forward in my opinion. The lad is completely lost out wide.What is so wrong with----McKay-Hutton-MacLeod-Templeton-----------------Little---Shiels-----------------Simple, easy, nothing complicated and 6 decent football players there.I still think we will win but we make life so hard for ourselves unnecessarily too. Football is not a complicated sport, it honestly isn't hard. Having thousands times more resources than your opponent should also make life easier, it seems to make it harder for us. Crespie6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everGers 82 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Enjoying the game the bounce of the ball catching us out but we look good for the win come on the Bears WATP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 You'll know what it's like then. Going from the slick, watered grass surfaces at Ibrox to that dry 4G can be tricky to adjust to. It's not as bad as some people make out and I enjoy it, especially when it's raining/been watered. I do remember, however, the first one we played on... Berwick perhaps? and it was very slow which we seemed to struggle with.It's not an excuse however. They are professionals and some of them are very good. Despite the stats, we're being beaten on footballing style today and the lads need to pick it up. Bring on McKay for Shiels, that man needs a talking to and isn't as quick as I thought. We've been unlucky not to go ahead but in saying that, despite good saves from their keeper, our finishing has been terrible.Good players can play on any surface. You should have seen me on the old red ash pitches and on the concrete school playground. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Its perfect for a certain kind of football you mean. Its certainly not a perfect surface, especially when cold.Im not using it as an excuse for our performance, but anyone suggesting its a perfect playing surface is fuckin at it, its not. The ball bounces wildly, tacklins a nightmare, theres a danger of catching your foot as you land or turn. Perfect my arse.Yes it is. It is beautiful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I quite enjoyed that half, too many times we see a dull game of football.Very good point mate...it has been enjoyable to watch...yes we haven't been great but going forward at least we certainly haven't been bad....Fair play to Montrose, they are playing really well...next goal is crucial. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniemca 479 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 When you watch shit like this it shows how far we have to go on our journey back.i really hope to fuck we don't play the scum for years we would get a drubbing from any half decent team.the right side of our team is absolutely deplorable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy 1,200 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 The commentators said earlier that we haven't trained on 3G all week which is SHOCKING IMHO.I heard him saying that, but I thought he was just referring to Temps. Then again, if Temps wasn't trianing of artifical, neither was anyone else.Crazy!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbo84 698 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 , gersandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 When you watch shit like this it shows how far we have to go on our journey back.i really hope to fuck we don't play the scum for years we would get a drubbing from any half decent team.the right side of our team is absolutely deplorable.Correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy 1,200 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 When you watch shit like this it shows how far we have to go on our journey back.i really hope to fuck we don't play the scum for years we would get a drubbing from any half decent team.the right side of our team is absolutely deplorable.But maybe we'd be able to up our game when playing agaisnt them??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,257 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I actually think his best games were when he was out wide and when he partnered McCulloch right up top. This in the hole crap doesn't suit him, although it should with his style. We cannot play with one up front, it doesn't suit us and affects how our team plays as a unit. Little should be playing centre forward in my opinion. The lad is completely lost out wide.What is so wrong with----McKay-Hutton-MacLeod-Templeton-----------------Little---Shiels-----------------Simple, easy, nothing complicated and 6 decent football players there.I still think we will win but we make life so hard for ourselves unnecessarily too. Football is not a complicated sport, it honestly isn't hard. Having thousands times more resources than your opponent should also make life easier, it seems to make it harder for us.Id agree with u on that one, shiels looks more dangerous coming from a wide area. I might get shot down in flames here, but i genuinely believe his sight seriously hinders his play. He regularly gets the ball knicked on his blind side. I dont mean that to sound like im havin a go, but come on, it must have some effect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallnotbemoved! 714 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 When you watch shit like this it shows how far we have to go on our journey back.i really hope to fuck we don't play the scum for years we would get a drubbing from any half decent team.the right side of our team is absolutely deplorable.Bring them on...fucking scumbags... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the brown brogue 1,934 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I actually think his best games were when he was out wide and when he partnered McCulloch right up top. This in the hole crap doesn't suit him, although it should with his style. We cannot play with one up front, it doesn't suit us and affects how our team plays as a unit. Little should be playing centre forward in my opinion. The lad is completely lost out wide.What is so wrong with----McKay-Hutton-MacLeod-Templeton-----------------Little---Shiels-----------------Simple, easy, nothing complicated and 6 decent football players there.I still think we will win but we make life so hard for ourselves unnecessarily too. Football is not a complicated sport, it honestly isn't hard. Having thousands times more resources than your opponent should also make life easier, it seems to make it harder for us.Yeah I'd agree with that, against the smaller teams there seems to be a desire to over-complicate things with various permeatations of 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 formations and the like, but they don't work with a player like Kyle as a lone front-man with little goal-scoring threat coming from midfield.Like you say, keep it simple, a fluid 4-4-2 and the goals will come. El Carpintero 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue corn flakes 1,282 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 fux sake Kyle Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right_To_Censor 1,951 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 why wear studs on a astro pitch? makes no sense Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Id agree with u on that one, shiels looks more dangerous coming from a wide area. I might get shot down in flames here, but i genuinely believe his sight seriously hinders his play. He regularly gets the ball knicked on his blind side. I dont mean that to sound like im havin a go, but come on, it must have some effect. Please ignore my reply to your other post mate, i was only noising you up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,257 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Yes it is. It is beautiful.Bollocks, ive seen 2 ankle breaks in 3 months as a direct result of that type of surface combined with incorrect footwear. It is not perfect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Yeah I'd agree with that, against the smaller teams there seems to be a desire to over-complicate things with various permeatationsof 4-2-3-1 formations and the like, but they don't work with a player like Kyle as a lone front-man with little goal-scoring threat coming from midfield.Like you say, keep it simple, a fluid 4-4-2 and the goals will come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,257 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Good players can play on any surface. You should have seen me on the old red ash pitches and on the concrete school playground. Aye? Who do you play with now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,257 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 When you watch shit like this it shows how far we have to go on our journey back.i really hope to fuck we don't play the scum for years we would get a drubbing from any half decent team.the right side of our team is absolutely deplorable.Aye, the scum looked dynamite against Arbroath. Especially in the REPLAY Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Aye? Who do you play with now?Aye. Who i play with doesn't matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkiebear 1,013 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Seriously what is the deal with our passing. 6 yards away from each other and unable to get it from a to b. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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