CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Why would any Rangers fan want a programme from that game anyway?I wouldn't want one, I never buy match programmes and I wouldn't buy anything from Dundee United, ever.For any Bear to buy several editions of that match programme and sell them to other Rangers fans at a profit is utterly scandalous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I wouldn't want one, I never buy match programmes and I wouldn't buy anything from Dundee United, ever.For any Bear to buy several editions of that match programme and sell them to other Rangers fans at a profit is utterly scandalous.There's no supply without demand.Those Rangers fans wanting to buy them obviously weren't at the game, so they aren't 'scabs', yet they want a programme. Why do they escape any name calling or persecution? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linnyplant 303 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 McElroy is the most ignorant arrogant son of a bitch that I have ever had the displeasure of knowing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 There's no supply without demand.Those Rangers fans wanting to buy them obviously weren't at the game, so they aren't 'scabs', yet they want a programme. Why do they escape any name calling or persecution?How do you know those fans weren't at the game? Maybe they were there but didn't see a programme seller.Irrespective, you seem far more concerned by a fan buying a programme than you do by a fan breaking a boycott by attending a game, buying up programmes then selling them to other fans at a profit. Interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 How do you know those fans weren't at the game? Maybe they were there but didn't see a programme seller.Irrespective, you seem far more concerned by a fan buying a programme than you do by a fan breaking a boycott by attending a game, buying up programmes then selling them to other fans at a profit. Interesting.Interesting indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 And i've said numerous times, the club do that because of fines and threats of worse. Very different situation.Maybe so, but it is still the clubs wishes that such songs are not sung at games correct? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Maybe so, but it is still the clubs wishes that such songs are not sung at games correct?No.That's Murray you're thinking of.CG (and therefore the club) has not voiced an opinion on the matter.As soon as he speaks on the matter, I'll happily follow his advice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Maybe so, but it is still the clubs wishes that such songs are not sung at games correct?Sure, which I object to as well but I think reasoning has to be taken into account. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Sure, which I object to as well but I think reasoning has to be taken into account.So how is it ok for the clubs wishes to be ignored (regardless of reason behind it) in one instance but in another its not? Regardless of the reason WHY the club has said what it has said it is still 'the clubs wishes'.Has any action ever been taken domestically re: fans singing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 So how is it ok for the clubs wishes to be ignored (regardless of reason behind it) in one instance but in another its not? Regardless of the reason WHY the club has said what it has said it is still 'the clubs wishes'.Has any action ever been taken domestically re: fans singing?There's been fines in the past and talk of points deductions, whether you think that's been idle threats it's for you to decide.I don't think it's OK and I think people should watch the singing simply just to stop the club getting in trouble, but it is different from this situation where the club asked us to make a stand against one of the enemies who tried to kill us.Oh and as GB pointed out Green is yet to talk about singing anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 So how is it ok for the clubs wishes to be ignored (regardless of reason behind it) in one instance but in another its not? Regardless of the reason WHY the club has said what it has said it is still 'the clubs wishes'.Has any action ever been taken domestically re: fans singing?To paraphrase a previous post on this thread: the worst thing about this whole sorry episode is the series of revisionist lies trotted out to excuse the selfish treachery of the boycott breakers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 There's been fines in the past and talk of points deductions, whether you think that's been idle threats it's for you to decide.I don't think it's OK and I think people should watch the singing simply just to stop the club getting in trouble, but it is different from this situation where the club asked us to make a stand against one of the enemies who tried to kill us.Oh and as GB pointed out Green is yet to talk about singing anyway.Domestically? When? The only action I'm aware that was ever taken was by UEFA.Green may not have personally spoken about singing however the club does still play a prerecorded message bofore matches warning supporters and they do still operate their 'grass folk in' phone number. So by my reckoning the clubs opinion is unchanged on the matter, thats not an unfair assumption is it? If the warnings in the programmes and over the tannoy had stopped then I'd agree, we should wait for clarification but since they have continued then the advice is still valid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 To paraphrase a previous post on this thread: the worst thing about this whole sorry episode is the series of revisionist lies trotted out to excuse the selfish treachery of the boycott breakers.What 'revisionist' lies have I came away with? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosmhdo 1,879 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Revisionist is just a posh name for an optician lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionRedHMS 190 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If people that entered the ground as gers fans are named and shamed then it's as much as the cunts deserve.Named and shamed as Rangers fans...............never thought I'd hear that.This has turned into a horrible debacle.These people(or cunts as some seem fit to call them),have split our support,undermined our Club,handed our haters more ammo and gained the mark of Cain.Fucking selfish idiots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 So how is it ok for the clubs wishes to be ignored (regardless of reason behind it) in one instance but in another its not? Regardless of the reason WHY the club has said what it has said it is still 'the clubs wishes'.Has any action ever been taken domestically re: fans singing?You just going to ingore my point Dude? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 You just going to ingore my point Dude? Sorry mate, The club do continue to issue warnings re sectarian singing prior to every home match and also continue to run their 'shop-a-bigot' line so whilst Green hasn't personally spoken on the issue the club have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,662 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Dude when was the last time we were warned for offensive singing? A specific game would help me identify where your coming from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Sorry mate, The club do continue to issue warnings re sectarian singing prior to every home match and also continue to run their 'shop-a-bigot' line so whilst Green hasn't personally spoken on the issue the club have.Do they really? Hmm. I must pay more attention Still, it doesn't affect me, as I never sing sectarian songs, just as I never attend away matches if my club refuse to take up their allocation, and ask me not to attend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Dude when was the last time we were warned for offensive singing? A specific game would help me identify where your coming from.Where he's coming from is whataboutery in its most puerile form. Anyone who repeatedly drags Charles Green into a discussion about prominent fans breaking a supporters' boycott in order to sneak into a game is not worthy of an opinion, never mind a response. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Dude when was the last time we were warned for offensive singing? A specific game would help me identify where your coming from.There are pre recorded messages before home games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Do they really? Hmm. I must pay more attention Still, it doesn't affect me, as I never sing sectarian songs, just as I never attend away matches if my club refuse to take up their allocation, and ask me not to attend.You'll never get a position in the RSA with that attitude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,662 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 There are pre recorded messages before home games.never heard them , maybe its cause i dont listen out for stuff like that as i think our fans are well behaved Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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