gazzas flute 66 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Yes on 1yr deals Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Not a chance should we go for them, if we were bringing anybody like that back id say Novo but only for a year or so at average wage and it wouldnt be my first choice to bring anybody back certainly not Boyd or Miller though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Yes on 1yr dealsShort term planning though! Alot of money for very little return...is that the route you want to see us go down? surey it would be better to use this opportunity to start planning long term? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 i may have cheered when Miller scored but he will always be a jump the dyke and sorry but fook having him back a 3rd time i would rather we found a young goal scoring machine from the 3rd div and test him in 2nd for fraction of price. Boyd would if played score for fun but for what price when we could get 3 strikers for his pay and maybe get a wee star, who knows.Fook it lets get Nacho back he'd do it for peanuts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio 1,199 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Well, we could have, Bell, Wallace, Goian, Bocanegra, Hately, Mcfadden, Thomson, Davidson, Daly, Miller and Boyd for next term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 No thanks. At least one will probably come back though, probably Boyd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzas flute 66 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Short term planning though! Alot of money for very little return...is that the route you want to see us go down? surey it would be better to use this opportunity to start planning long term? just thinking it would help us out till our illegal transfer ban is up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkster 6 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Boydy anyday Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 just thinking it would help us out till our illegal transfer ban is up.I don't doubt they would improve our team in the short term but if we are working to a wage bill (33%) of turnover they would both have to accept a big reduction in wages or we would end up overpaying 30 year olds again with no sell on fee....their are lots of players available on frees this summer that I know of in the uk (two lads at port vale are very pacy, tranmere cf, Oldham target man etc all young) so I am sure there are many more worldwide who would improve our team but also prove to be value in terms if progression and sell on value.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDYT 47 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 If none of this had happened , I would have had them back anyway , both would do a job at any level in this country. As things stand I feel kris Boyd deserves a chance to get back into best striker in Scotland form , Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzas flute 66 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I don't doubt they would improve our team in the short term but if we are working to a wage bill (33%) of turnover they would both have to accept a big reduction in wages or we would end up overpaying 30 year olds again with no sell on fee....their are lots of players available on frees this summer that I know of in the uk (two lads at port vale are very pacy, tranmere cf, Oldham target man etc all young) so I am sure there are many more worldwide who would improve our team but also prove to be value in terms if progression and sell on value.... i dont know much outwith epl and scottish football but i know boyd and miller have been here and did it before so i would rather have them than daly mcfadden etc but if we pulled something out the hat like the port vale boy or that and it worked id be more than happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWee BlueDevil 222 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Neither of them would be any use with the team playing the way it is at present. Both of them, who I rate by the way, would not get any service at all.We could have Messi up front just now and he wouldn't score because we wouldn't be able to get the ball to him often enough in dangerous positions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Miller, probably not. He is gonna be 36 and I don't think he will be the same player.Boyd, yes with conditions. 1) he would have to prove his fitness at his current club, 2) he would have to be on a wage suitable to our finances, no way i'd break the bank for him, and 3)He would have to start scoring regularly in the remaining games of the season.Always been a fan of Boyd and I never wanted him to leave in the first place BUT he has been gone a while, and has not really impressed at any other club, which is why those 3 conditions would have to be met. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Miller, probably not. He is gonna be 36 and I don't think he will be the same player.Boyd, yes with conditions. 1) he would have to prove his fitness at his current club, 2) he would have to be on a wage suitable to our finances, no way i'd break the bank for him, and 3)He would have to start scoring regularly in the remaining games of the season.Always been a fan of Boyd and I never wanted him to leave in the first place BUT he has been gone a while, and has not really impressed at any other club, which is why those 3 conditions would have to be met.Up until recently I would have said "no way" to the idea of bringing in the likes of Thomson, Miller or Boyd; but having seen how much our current experienced players struggle and the amount of pressure that has put on the young players, I have come to the conclusion that it has to happen. Get 3 or 4 guys who know the club and who Ally knows can hack playing for the club, create a backbone from that for 2 years and build a squad of young players around that.These young lads are never going to develop and learn in the current squad with players they should be able to look to hiding for large chunks of matches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trixi 44 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Mmmm mm I really think we need a strong CM. A commanding playmaker that can control the pace of the game and build up the confidence of the youngsters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Up until recently I would have said "no way" to the idea of bringing in the likes of Thomson, Miller or Boyd; but having seen how much our current experienced players struggle and the amount of pressure that has put on the young players, I have come to the conclusion that it has to happen. Get 3 or 4 guys who know the club and who Ally knows can hack playing for the club, create a backbone from that for 2 years and build a squad of young players around that.These young lads are never going to develop and learn in the current squad with players they should be able to look to hiding for large chunks of matches.Not miller though mate, too much money for too little gametime IMO. He is not fit enough to last the season i dont think.boyd on those conditions.Thomson, is he can stay fit at Killie, and then sign a "pay if fit" type contract. I would have back, he would possibly put some much needed spark in the middle. The spark that the SPl signings this year have failed to produce. Lewis MacLeod IMO has been streets ahead of Black,Hutton,McKay and Shiels this season.All of these are secondary to a solid CB or 2. This is the main priority IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Not miller though mate, too much money for too little gametime IMO. He is not fit enough to last the season i dont think.boyd on those conditions.Thomson, is he can stay fit at Killie, and then sign a "pay if fit" type contract. I would have back, he would possibly put some much needed spark in the middle. The spark that the SPl signings this year have failed to produce. Lewis MacLeod IMO has been streets ahead of Black,Hutton,McKay and Shiels this season.All of these are secondary to a solid CB or 2. This is the main priority IMO.I should have added that I would only do it, with those names mentioned anyway, if they are willing to come in for the same money that the players who will leave are on.For example: If Thomson can prove his fitness, then get shot of Black and give him his wage. Same goes for Boyd with big Fran.You get the idea. In no way am I suggesting we should break the bank or fill the squad with these players. It is important at a club like Rangers, when developing young players to have a number of players in there that know what its all about; and have proven they have what it takes to perform week in and week out in that jersey.CB will be a problem area for Ally simply because he cant just go out and pay a fee for a player (I've no doubt he would have one or two he feels could make a difference). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,545 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Mmmm mm I really think we need a strong CM. A commanding playmaker that can control the pace of the game and build up the confidence of the youngsters.Why? We just launch the ball over the midfield anyway lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS 649 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Absolutely not - time to move on, as many have already said Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblueyonder 11,156 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Boyd yes Miller noThis for me, though rather get a younger striker from Div1 or 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock 42 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 We really do love looking backwards, please can we just look to the future and not 30+ has beens.Depessing if true. :-( Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock 42 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 We really do love looking backwards, please can we just look to the future and not 30+ has beens.Depessing if true. :-( Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.12 508 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelightfulDennis 123 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I would absolutely love to see those two back as a partnership. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samenzi 7 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 How was Boyd never good enough for us? many goals did he score against the mhanks or in euro no to both Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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