theblueoysterbar 19,688 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 "We support our local team", mind that one?So do I. Ibrox is closer to me than Firhill is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 It's not the only reason, of course, but I would guess it's the main reason for the majority. Bigotry, sectarianism and socio-political factors may come into it for the minority - and for a special group a perfect storm of all four - but it is a minority.Not looking for an argument, but i can go right back to the 60s and we were hated that far back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Well quite, I find it marvellous that we haven't lost that arrogance or sense of superiority despite what league we happen to be in.In my last job I was regularly pestered by a couple of obsessive taigs. I had 'haughty' down to a fine art. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I can take jealousy.I can take some pent-up anti-Rangers aggression from Tic fans.Oh I have my own ideas....bitterness, jealousy, an imposed hatred from birth from some....But I've read online blogs from Hearts to Raith.....THEY HATE US.That makes me hate them....I fucking hate them....But...deep down....why the fuck do they hate us?It's called rivalry... and without it football would die.Ask me another... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Not looking for an argument, but i can go right back to the 60s and we were hated that far back.I'm sure we were. We've always been arrogant, right from the Struth days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMonger1872 581 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Fuck your Celtic, Aberdeen , Hearts, Hibs , Dundee Utd and Motherwell , for the boys in Royal blue we are Scotland gallant crew and the fans are forever true Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Hated, but rated Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Funnily enough, this seems to skip over the pathological desire of bitter Tims to see us dead.They are the problem... and would we have it any other way?Do we 'hate' them when we see them in the stadium?Do we 'hate' their bitter comments on webpages?Do we 'hate' everything about them and their team when they are dressed in their hoops?Yes. Yes. Yes.Crisis over.(Apart from Aberdeen obviously - they hate us). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StublueKPL 524 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I honestly could not give a flying fuck what any other teams fans think of us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ignotus 49 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Although both Ranger and Man U have been dominant forces in their countries, and hated for that, that's maybe not a great comparison. Man U was never seen as the 'establishment' club in England - I don't think there is a club seen that way in England. So maybe hatred of Rangeres is hatred of what people see as the Scottish 'establishment' equally as much as straightforward jealousy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumnockbear 2,446 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Couldn't give a fuck who hates us, been that way for many years and will be for many more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Jealousy. Plain and simple.Let's be honest, we are arrogant. During the 90's and beyond we lorded it over everyone letting them know how inferior they were and now, well, we're getting the backlash of that attitude.It is a fair point.I would still say that only Celtic and Aberdeen have real 'hate' wheras Motherwell don't and they finished second twice.And Aberdeen's isn't really valid as it isn't sectarian. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueoysterbar 19,688 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Although both Ranger and Man U have been dominant forces in their countries, and hated for that, that's maybe not a great comparison. Man U was never seen as the 'establishment' club in England - I don't think there is a club seen that way in England. So maybe hatred of Rangeres is hatred of what people see as the Scottish 'establishment' equally as much as straightforward jealousy.Completely disagree with you mate. If we're getting into the modern Scottish establishment there are many catholics in the Scottish Labour Party and in high places. And if it's about the old Scottish establishment, there really isn't one to speak of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Although both Ranger and Man U have been dominant forces in their countries, and hated for that, that's maybe not a great comparison. Man U was never seen as the 'establishment' club in England - I don't think there is a club seen that way in England. So maybe hatred of Rangeres is hatred of what people see as the Scottish 'establishment' equally as much as straightforward jealousy.Rangers and Real Madrid is probably a fairer comparison, although the establishment is obviously slightly different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I honestly could not give a flying fuck what any other teams fans think of usToo many sensitive souls these days.I only support one club team, I shouldn't expect rival fans to like me in that capacity.Just the same as any sporting rivalry.Scotland v England. McEnroe v Bjorg. Higgins v Davis. Wilson v Bristow. I am sure we have all said we have hated the opponent now and again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Although both Ranger and Man U have been dominant forces in their countries, and hated for that, that's maybe not a great comparison. Man U was never seen as the 'establishment' club in England - I don't think there is a club seen that way in England. So maybe hatred of Rangeres is hatred of what people see as the Scottish 'establishment' equally as much as straightforward jealousy.You are a West Ham fan who can't spell Rangers. I hate you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ignotus 49 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 You are a West Ham fan who can't spell Rangers. I hate you.Spelling is ok, the fingers alas aren't. Bring back quills. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersfc77 170 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Religious mostly septic but not always Political propaganda war went unchecked for years mostly those of a certain persuasion Jealousy of our success most other fans including septic Opportunists who thought if we capitulated their clubs may benefit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacNaCeardadh 94 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I always think of that line from The Dark Knight is quite relevant to the Rangers/rest of Scottish football situation: "... this is different, they crossed the line." "You crossed the line first, sir, you squeezed and hammered them to the point of desperation." Of course they were going to take a pot-shot at us when the chips were down... I think because Rangers have been so successful, all we've had to worry about during the living memory of most fans is Celtic and possibly Aberdeen; a lot of our fans might find it difficult to empathise with the smaller teams and only hate them now because it seemed like in our moment of weakness all of Scottish Football was out to destroy us. This has turned many Bears' disregard for the remainder of Scottish football into hatred in kind, "they hate us, we hate them". It's kind of depressing, I go to the football to support my team on the pitch, not because of hate politics with the rest of society. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ignotus 49 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Rangers and Real Madrid is probably a fairer comparison, although the establishment is obviously slightly different.ablishmentGood point. The general hatred towards the 'national' club which was seen to represent national/est values would hold, obviously with regional rather than sectarian underpinnings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Spelling is ok, the fingers alas aren't. Bring back quills.I still hate you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ignotus 49 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Completely disagree with you mate. If we're getting into the modern Scottish establishment there are many catholics in the Scottish Labour Party and in high places. And if it's about the old Scottish establishment, there really isn't one to speak of.I agree that's very true nowadays, but in the past wasn't Rangers seen as the club that best reflected the Scottish 'mainstream', and that a lot of hatred towards Rangers reflects animosity towards that? We all know that history, and misreadings of history, is responsible for too much grief in this world, way outside the scope of football, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,888 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I think the whole league thing hasn't helped us. The tims have peddled the myth that we shouldn't of been allowed to join sfl3, so well, that all the other team's fans are following suit. They genuinly don't realise we're the only show in town in Scottish football.Fuck em, 54 titles :union: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly86 709 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 ...a lot of our fans might find it difficult to empathise with the smaller teams and only hate them now because it seemed like in our moment of weakness all of Scottish Football was out to destroy us. This has turned many Bears' disregard for the remainder of Scottish football into hatred in kind...I would have guessed at it being the other way about for many? I'd normally have wanted relative success for other clubs and Scottish football, bar the more obvious ones, until the last 20 months happened. The glee and haste in which they've lined up to put the boot in showed the obvious direction for most of the hate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ignotus 49 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I still hate you.Love and peace man. If you ever go to San Francisco be sure to wear some flowers in your hair, for I believe you'll meet some gentle people there Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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