Bothwellbear 1,392 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Ally McCoist wants Rangers to scout for success as talent spotting network needs to be rebuilt for club to move ahead 1 Dec 2013 09:05 NEIL MURRAY's departure has left the Govan club without a chief scout, something which McCoist feels is vital for the Gers as they look to get themselves back to Scotland's top tier. Ally McCoist needs new bodies to look out for up and coming talent as he builds for the future at RangersALLY McCOIST insists Rangers will never be able to mount a serious challenge to Celtic unless they fix their shambolic scouting system.The Ibrox boss says setting up a credible talent identification scheme must be the club’s top priority.Rangers have been operating without a chief scout and a scouting department since they axed Neil Murray in April.At the time the previous board released a statement insisting they were embarking on a ‘far-reaching restructuring programme at various levels of the club’.However, they failed to put a proper scouting structure in place despite McCoist claiming they needed it more than at ?any other time in Rangers’ 140-year history.McCoist said: “I’d make that my No.1 priority for the club moving ahead.“We just don’t have anything in place since Neil left. We’ve had a couple of guys going to watch the opposition but that’s it.“The scouting set-up is just about non-existent coming into a period when it’s going to more vital than at any other point in our history.“The irony isn’t lost on me that our scouting system is at its worst just when it’s needed most.“I can’t tell you how important it is and I can’t emphasise the sorry state it is in.“We had two full-time boys here in Neil and John Brown and now we have no-one. If we want to get back to where we once were competing in the top league and getting into Europe we must have a successful scouting network.“We have to build now. We’ve said all along we have a four and five year plan to get us back into the top flight and competing in Europe.“We want this as soon as possible to give us the greatest chance.”McCoist is worried by the lack of forward planning as his team move closer to a top flight return the season after next.But he is confident he will be given the backing of new chief executive Graham Wallace.He said: “It certainly has to be addressed and I’m sure it will be.“We need to hit the ground running. The transfer embargo is now lifted and we can compete on a level playing field with everybody. We have to prepare for getting back to the top flight. In the conversations I’ve had with Graham he is aware of how important it is we get the younger ones either through Murray Park or buy them in.“I haven’t had specific discussions with the chief executive about this.“But I don’t have any doubts we’ll be sitting down in the next week or so to talk about major issues and that will certainly be one topic.”McCoist has already earmarked a number of key footballing figures to head up the scouting department at Murray Park.He added: “I’ve spoken to my own members of staff here and one or two from the youth department.“There’s two or three people I’d like to have there, guys I can trust.“We are a selling club in the grand scheme of things. Nikica Jelavic would be an example although I don’t think we got the full value for him.“I don’t see any reason why we cant be a Porto, an Ajax or a PSV who are competing every year in their own domestic leagues and doing alright in Europe while selling players to the likes of Barcelona.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Good interview.Our position with regards to scouting right now is an embarrassment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 While I agree with his sentiment, we always have been a selling club in one form or another, with all the best will in the world who the hell is going to opt to play in a footballing backwater like the SPL (Newco). One player every three or four years is hardly a system to build your financial & footballing plans on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethepeople1 3,897 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Sooner the 19th comes and goes the better2014 is a vital year to get all these things in place Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,723 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Agree with this as being crucial. Good to hear ally's views on it too.Want the set up to be the best possible within sensible budgets, and run by the best out there we can bring in. This doesnt need to involve ex players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,714 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Our management team saw a Queens Park player play against us on four occasions last year. He stood out like a sore thumb, yet he ends up at Scumdee. Surely to fcuk we don't need scouts to identify every good player... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Sooner the 19th comes and goes the better2014 is a vital year to get all these things in placeThe people running our club at the moment are not interested in the football right now there to busy trying to cling on to there seat in the board room. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I think after what the club has gone through in the last few years then a few things have had to be put back into place, a proper scouting network being one of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Our management team saw a Queens Park player play against us on four occasions last year. He stood out like a sore thumb, yet he ends up at Scumdee. Surely to fcuk we don't need scouts to identify every good player...And who was that? The only player i ever noticed from Queesn park was the goalkeeper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 We need connection to the lower Leagues in England that's where there is rich pickings of some decent players.And he is correct in that we need to sell for better prices when it comes to better players.Some transfer fees we received have been pathetic. Good points from Ally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 The people running our club at the moment are not interested in the football right now there to busy trying to cling on to there seat in the board room.Under Siege. The Club has been strangled from all angles.This should have been in place by now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 We need connection to the lower Leagues in England that's where there is rich pickings of some decent players.And he is correct in that we need to sell for better prices when it comes to better players.Some transfer fees we received have been pathetic.Good points from Ally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,788 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I've said it about five times now but once everything is sorted out we should head hunt Dudee Uniteds scouting team and youth coach.They have done superbly on both of those regards over the past few years and with limited resources too. Imagine what they could do at a club as big as ours? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Azure 1,414 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 FFS! If only someone from the club looked on here only last year, they would have read exactly these points being raised by Ally in this article. Why a club of our stature does not have an effective scouting network in place is an absolute scandal and someone should be getting their balls booted for allowing a situation like this to have occured. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKA 545 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Our management team saw a Queens Park player play against us on four occasions last year. He stood out like a sore thumb, yet he ends up at Scumdee. Surely to fcuk we don't need scouts to identify every good player...http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22762888This is our number one priority after the AGM is resolved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKA 545 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I've said it about five times now but once everything is sorted out we should head hunt Dudee Uniteds scouting team and youth coach.They have done superbly on both of those regards over the past few years and with limited resources too. Imagine what they could do at a club as big as ours?David GoodwillieGary Mackay-StevenScott AllanJonny RussellStuart ArmstrongRyan GauldWhat do we have to compare with that lot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble 25 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 David GoodwillieGary Mackay-StevenScott AllanJonny RussellStuart ArmstrongRyan GauldWhat do we have to compare with that lot?McGregorHuttonMcMillanWilsonSmithBurkeNessMcCabeAdamWyldeMcCormack Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 358 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 The scouting needs sorted asap. We need clued-up, well connected and experienced scouts based in multiple locations. One based in Scotland and two based in England would be a decent start. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 He's Quite right tooA good scouting network is essential provided it's the right appointment and not another job for one of the boys Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 McGregorHuttonMcMillanWilsonSmithBurkeNessMcCabeAdamWyldeMcCormackMacleodMcKayAirdCrawford.GasparottoDanny StoneyCharlie Telfer..............We have plenty of good young players they don't get a chance though. Apart from Macleod the rest of these guys have not had a look in this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 358 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 A good scouting network is essential provided it's the right appointment and not another job for one of the boysJobs for the boys is a definite worry, but I don't have a problem with people Ally knows getting the jobs... so long as they're of a high enough calibre. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Out of all the youth players mentioned only a few of them have been any good and McGregor wasn't a Murray Park graduate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Jobs for the boys is a definite worry, but I don't have a problem with people Ally knows getting the jobs... so long as they're of a high enough calibre.Aye same here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Jobs for the boys is a definite worry, but I don't have a problem with people Ally knows getting the jobs... so long as they're of a high enough calibre.Eh? That sounds like it's going to be jobs for the boys if it's people ally knows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Eh? That sounds like it's going to be jobs for the boys if it's people ally knows.What he means is aslong as they are qualified then it's ok and not someone like an unemployed Gordon Durie in charge of the reserves for example Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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