BrigLoyalist 15 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 If he doesn't like it here he simply has to log off and not come back but something tells me he likes the attention.Most do to be honest, bet way to get rid of them and their dated opinion is to starve them of the attention they crave... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Let's not be getting involved in the blame game folks. There's nothing that VB has done that is criminal, so I would class it in the section "Rangers hating Rags" However, the Police did Tweet they were investigating, which they have to do If a complaint is made.Let's be honest, if that image with the two X's is a criminal offence, then Rangers fans will be wearing yellow stars very soon.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_lawAye an early Godwin tells you all you need to know about a 'debater'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Sad state of affairs if a picture is now deemed criminal. I agree it may not be very PC. but is it worse than singing about killing people in terrorist atrocities, smashing up football grounds, waving banners of dead terrorists or mocking the Poppy?A story that keeps the serially offended and Rangers fans reps amused.You can apply that logic to any minor offence committed. I smoke dope. Have been fined for doing so on a few occasions. Is it any worse than what they do? Or will all dope smokers be wearing yellow stars soon too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Sad state of affairs if a picture is now deemed criminal. I agree it may not be very PC. but is it worse than singing about killing people in terrorist atrocities, smashing up football grounds, waving banners of dead terrorists or mocking the Poppy?A story that keeps the serially offended and Rangers fans reps amused.why is their picture of a dead terrorist worse than your picture of dead 'rangers haters'? Just a picture after all. It would be a sad state of affairs if we started criminalising pictures because some handwringer was offended by it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 So, you're a convicted criminal? I'll be staying back from you and ignoring your drug fueled nonsense from now on.Drugs are for mugs kids, look at Doody.No conviction, My record is as clean as a whistle. The fiscal fine system is set up to avoid criminalising people for minor offences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I know you're drugged up Doody, but it's not my picture. I'm defending VB and Rangers fans. I know you're not with us mere non drug users, but do keep up son?I wouldn't have a clue how to mock up a picture, never mind chat with a drug fueled criminal.I never said it was your picture, It was however shared by VB on twitter. If something is deemed offensive its not simply the fault of whoever created the offensive image, but that of whoever passed the image on and caused offense.Drug fueled criminal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 So, you're a convicted criminal? I'll be staying back from you and ignoring your drug fueled nonsense from now on.Drugs are for mugs kids, look at Doody.The clubs manager is a convicted criminal. As are several of our legends'. I've never once seen you bemoan that fact about them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I smell Yahoo. You got me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 DoodyYou said.......................why is their picture of a dead terrorist worse than your picture of dead 'rangers haters'?It is not my picture, I am not an admin member of VB and have not been so for years. I know you're probably away with the birds, but do keep up son.Drugs are for mugs kids, just look at Doody.ok well let me rephrase it, the picture which you are going to great lengths to defend and was shared by VB on VB.Once more, whats the difference between the two photos? Why is it ok to get offended at one but its a 'sad state of affairs' when someone gets offended by the other? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 No conviction, My record is as clean as a whistle. The fiscal fine system is set up to avoid criminalising people for minor offences.So possession and smoking of drugs is not a criminal offence ?Are you quite sure its not crack you are smoking?try and get a visa to get into the United States with your "non-criminal" convictions for drug abuse Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 What a waste of Police resources if this is true.On the day the scum will get their sentence from Uefa makes me a bit more than cynical.Gers fan site probePublished on 11 December 2013A RANGERS fans' group being investigated by police is sponsoring an Ibrox first team player, the Evening Times can reveal.Police are probing comments and images posted on the website of the Vanguard Bears.It has since emerged that the group is kit sponsor of Rangers starlet Robbie Crawford.The website contains photos of prominent Celtic fans, some dead, with crosses superimposed on to the images.A Rangers spokesman said: "The club is investigating."The photos include one of the late Paul McBride QC and another of lawyer Paul McConville, who died last month.A Police spokeswoman said: "We are looking into the matter."A non story.A spokeman from VB said "Go fuck yourself" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanCurtis 155 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 ok well let me rephrase it, the picture which you are going to great lengths to defend and was shared by VB on VB.Once more, whats the difference between the two photos? Why is it ok to get offended at one but its a 'sad state of affairs' when someone gets offended by the other?Jesus christ you are completely at the utter madam. To be honest I was going to try and discuss it but reading through this thread, you are hiding behind and abusing the platform that RM are giving you. You know fine what is going on and are choosing to be the madam. Should be utterly ashamed of yourselfNaive doesnt even come close to it.You should try putting a Rangers scarf on, see what it feels like and have a look at yourself.Should be ashamed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 So possession and smoking of drugs is not a criminal offence ?Are you quite sure its not crack you are smoking?try and get a visa to get into the United States with your "non-criminal" convictions for drug abusePossesion of cannabis, when dealt with under a fiscal fine results in no criminal conviction.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_finehttp://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/taking-action/pay-a-fine/fiscal-finesSo, yes, I'm pretty sure it isn't crack I'm somking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Jesus christ you are completely at the utter madam. To be honest I was going to try and discuss it but reading through this thread, you are hiding behind and abusing the platform that RM are giving you. You know fine what is going on and are choosing to be the madam. Should be utterly ashamed of yourselfNaive doesnt even come close to it.You should try putting a Rangers scarf on, see what it feels like and have a look at yourself.Should be ashamed.Why should I be utterly ashamed of myself? Because I don't get offended by a painted bedsheet with a picture of bobby sands? Or because I'm not jumping to the defence of VB for sharing a picture and asking who on its next to die as though its something to celebrate?I have a rangers top on just now? does that suffice?I'm not hiding behind nor abusing any platform. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwoodbear 94 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 So possession and smoking of drugs is not a criminal offence ?Are you quite sure its not crack you are smoking?try and get a visa to get into the United States with your "non-criminal" convictions for drug abuseGoing by his location,he's already in the States,or perhaps just in a state.He does talk of Fiscal fines though,so he must reside here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanCurtis 155 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Shame on you for giving our enemies an open goal.You know it's true. Where is the lies or smear in anything i have said in this thread?Havent seen many of your posts except to say that whilst so same capable of debate, it is awfy AWFY curious that ever position you take seems to be the polar opposite of whatever VB are OR is pro yougswishy side partings groups position, as trumpeted on our pravdaesque site ££. Just saying. You seem more intent on attacking Willhelm than EVER conceding anything.Smells fishy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Fuck sake guys lets concentrate on the topic and not get side tracked by pathetic sniping yet again. This seems the usual mhedia frenzy over nothing, a joke thats been twisted by someone to hurt the VBs but who? Probably a bheast but sadly these days it could be somebody like the legless one, we just cant tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanCurtis 155 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Why should I be utterly ashamed of myself? Because I don't get offended by a painted bedsheet with a picture of bobby sands? Or because I'm not jumping to the defence of VB for sharing a picture and asking who on its next to die as though its something to celebrate?I have a rangers top on just now? does that suffice?I'm not hiding behind nor abusing any platform.Did ye, aye. PS Lies in there too. Might want to work on that Mr tap wearer!! haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Did ye, ayeI take it you mean, do ye, aye? In that case, yes yes I do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Possesion of cannabis, when dealt with under a fiscal fine results in no criminal conviction.http://en.wikipedia....iki/Fiscal_finehttp://www.scotcourt...ne/fiscal-finesSo, yes, I'm pretty sure it isn't crack I'm somking.Does this mean that cannabis has been legalised?No. Possession of cannabis for personal use or the supply of cannabis to another or possession of cannabis with the intention of supplying it to another remain criminal offences. The Home Secretary has announced his intention to increase, to 14 years, the maximum prison sentence for supplying Class C drugs, or possession with the intention of supplying them to another. The present maximum prison sentence for simply possessing cannabis will be reduced from 5 years to 2 years, when cannabis is reclassified to Class C. Fines and other non-custodial sentences can also be imposed in addition to prison sentences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Fuck sake guys lets concentrate on the topic and not get side tracked by pathetic sniping yet again. This seems the usual mhedia frenzy over nothing, a joke thats been twisted by someone to hurt the VBs but who? Probably a bheast but sadly these days it could be somebody like the legless one, we just cant tell.Back on topicCan someone please explain to me where exactly the criminal offence is in the picture or the tweet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Does this mean that cannabis has been legalised?No. Possession of cannabis for personal use or the supply of cannabis to another or possession of cannabis with the intention of supplying it to another remain criminal offences. The Home Secretary has announced his intention to increase, to 14 years, the maximum prison sentence for supplying Class C drugs, or possession with the intention of supplying them to another. The present maximum prison sentence for simply possessing cannabis will be reduced from 5 years to 2 years, when cannabis is reclassified to Class C. Fines and other non-custodial sentences can also be imposed in addition to prison sentences.I never claimed it was legalised.Just that a fiscal fine is an alernative to prosecution and neither results in a criminal convistion or is viewed by the PF as an admission of guilt. It's essentially a legal bung. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Back on topicCan someone please explain to me where exactly the criminal offence is in the picture or the tweet?If it causes offence to 'any reasonable person' it becomes an offence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livi-Loyalist 46 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 100percent backing for the VB's from this bear. For anybody who can't see what is goin on in this country then wake the fuck up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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