Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 No it doesn'tThe situations are differentWe now have established investors and share holders running the clubHearts are up for tender with a fans group in the forefrontWe had our chanceSo called Rangers men with money like McColl, Gillespies, Murray, Smilie, Parl etc had their chance and as fans the fact the fighting fund raised the mere sum of 500k says it allwhat a lot of shitewe did not have our chance and neither did the assorted bourgeousi you listedD&P and Charlie tied it upit appears the Easdales are running the club but their investment in shares is small compared to others Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopsleftpeg 16 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 So the person behind BuyRangers is no longer on the RST board and those left are unable to fulfill the compliance procedures ? Are they stll taking direct debits and fans money for it?Surely the failures of gerSave through to BuyRangers will spell the bitter end for the RST adventure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 what a lot of shitewe did not have our chance and neither did the assorted bourgeousi you listedD&P and Charlie tied it upit appears the Easdales are running the club but their investment in shares is small compared to othersYet again more baseless conspiracies from you You forgetting a 240k independent investigation commissioned that cleared the administrators and Green of any wrong doing?That's facts Hard facts Cold hard facts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allanger 625 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 So the person behind BuyRangers is no longer on the RST board and those left are unable to fulfill the compliance procedures ?Are they stll taking direct debits and fans money for it?Surely the failures of gerSave through to BuyRangers will spell the bitter end for the RST adventure.buyrangers should be suspended immediately if they unable to fulfill compliance.A shambles Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz 78 918 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 8000 Hearts fans are doing it. They can afford it. Why can we not?6000 to 8000 Hearts fans started off paying X amount per month but i wonder what the figure is now and what it will be in 18 months time when the novelty wears off?Personally from what i've heard the actual amount of fans that are paying into a bank to save them is a lot less than the propaganda foh spout. As for Rangers the club simply could not be run by direct debits like some of the minor clubs in Scotland and the German model won't work either imho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 6000 to 8000 Hearts fans started off paying X amount per month but i wonder what the figure is now and what it will be in 18 months time when the novelty wears off?Personally from what i've heard the actual amount of fans that are paying into a bank to save them is a lot less than the propaganda foh spout. As for Rangers the club simply could not be run by direct debits like some of the minor clubs in Scotland and the German model won't work either imho.Why wont it work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedart1952 1,374 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I wonder if that guy works for Walt Disney, there is a good bit of fan-tasy in what he says. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,696 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 8000 Hearts fans are doing it. They can afford it. Why can we not?Our season tickets are much higher and Hearts havent proved it works yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedart1952 1,374 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 “We wanted to try to demonstrate through Stuart’s amazing pictures that all fans are the same, apart from the scarves around their necks. This comment in the thread made me laugh, hands up everybody who agrees that they are the same as the great unwashed even without your scarf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tontospal 1,116 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Yet another article that misrepresents the support. It is hard to imagine a more divided support than ours and, as far as I am concerned, there are no groups that represent anything but a small fraction of the Rangers support. The press continue to perpetuate the myth about the groups mentioned in the article and all it does is highlight the poor standards of journalism in this country. As for Goodwin all he is interested in is promoting himself and his pointless organisation. He tries to take credit for all of the clubs mentioned in the article and the real reason he wants fan ownership of Rangers is so he can blow his own trumpet. Another sad day if our support needs to take advice or guidance from someone who has no interest in our club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Notice how those pushing fan ownersuip are a crowd of lefties. Probably have no time for Her Gracious Majesty either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedart1952 1,374 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Notice how those pushing fan ownersuip are a crowd of lefties. Probably have no time for Her Gracious Majesty either. Probably were the same ones that backed pm/mm and all their cronies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Also, a lot of the protagonists, eg rea, are not even Rangers fans. Looks to me like they are trying a different tack to bring down our club having failed in 2012. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapid6 77 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Please steer the club so I can get a big return on my investment! That's what he is really saying.I'm not disagreeing with him though. He has obviously seen that the club's current leadership is not performing and the fans are becoming less gullible, or more savvy?Old alliance's are beginning to harm our progress! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullery 240 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Notice how those pushing fan ownersuip are a crowd of lefties. Probably have no time for Her Gracious Majesty either.very bizarre post Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea 22 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 6000 to 8000 Hearts fans started off paying X amount per month but i wonder what the figure is now and what it will be in 18 months time when the novelty wears off?Personally from what i've heard the actual amount of fans that are paying into a bank to save them is a lot less than the propaganda foh spout. As for Rangers the club simply could not be run by direct debits like some of the minor clubs in Scotland and the German model won't work either imho.The number on the Direct Debit Scheme is 7600. The monthly DDs have been being collected for the last 5 months and is accumulating in a bank account as the CVA has not being finalised yet as it takes approx 6 months to do.With this in mind Foh will have collected approx 1/4 of all the money they need before they need any of it and yet the money keeps on coming with no mass exodus because it has not happened yet.IMHO when CVA hopefully goes through the number of members will increase as those who would not buy into the vision will buy into the realityP.S if the same number of Rangers fans had been doing similar to Hearts fans you would be close to buying 5% of the club which in a PLC is the first magic number enabling the Coop Shareholder to hold the board to transparent reportable account Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullery 240 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 The number on the Direct Debit Scheme is 7600. The monthly DDs have been being collected for the last 5 months and is accumulating in a bank account as the CVA has not being finalised yet as it takes approx 6 months to do.With this in mind Foh will have collected approx 1/4 of all the money they need before they need any of it and yet the money keeps on coming with no mass exodus because it has not happened yet.IMHO when CVA hopefully goes through the number of members will increase as those who would not buy into the vision will buy into the realityP.S if the same number of Rangers fans had been doing similar to Hearts fans you would be close to buying 5% of the club which in a PLC is the first magic number enabling the Coop Shareholder to hold the board to transparent reportable accountwe are being shown up by other supporters regarding fan ownership , we all know its the way to go , but too many are pushing an agenda and the rest follow like sheep Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Notice how those pushing fan ownersuip are a crowd of lefties. Probably have no time for Her Gracious Majesty either.Yip, I'm a Tory voting unionist who is a leftie and has no time for HM. Do try harder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,696 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 we are being shown up by other supporters regarding fan ownership , we all know its the way to go , but too many are pushing an agenda and the rest follow like sheepBut most certainly of this thread dont agree with.fan ownership extrapolate that and you.get the majority of fans against it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 But most certainly of this thread dont agree with.fan ownership extrapolate that and you.get the majority of fans against itPerhaps KL but they probably dont agree with the current ownership model either - and in fairness it hasnt served us very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 So rea wants the hearts cva to go through so that they survive. I can see that going down well with the Rangers fans who had to put up with the shit from Edinburgh. Skullery - you think it is the way to go. Arrogance to say that we all know it is the way to go. The Dude -- having read many of your posts, I don't think even you know what you believe. And yes, as rea has admitted that fan ownership is a co-operative, that is sufficient to set me against it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 But most certainly of this thread dont agree with.fan ownership extrapolate that and you.get the majority of fans against itThis thread or forum is in no way representative of the Rangers support at large. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,696 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Perhaps KL but they probably dont agree with the current ownership model either - and in fairness it hasnt served us very well.No doubt D'art i hate the current model to i am wholey in favour of one man owning us for our benefit not this mess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,696 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 This thread or forum is in no way representative of the Rangers support at large.It is representative of the largest site we have though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 It is representative of the largest site we have thoughSo it's representative of the members. Most rangers fans probably barely know this place exists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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