TheBluenose1972 1,405 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I think you said yourself pretty much the Ramsdens final was just a failure too far, coupled with the karaoke stuff people will naturally still be hurting.Gies a song...Saturday night fur fux sake Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I was getting at saying that using the 'If' argument is stupid. Yeah he MAY lose next week, but then he MIGHT win the treble next season. Viewpoints will always change depending on what may or may not happen.Exactly so your viewpoint has stayed the same, you admitted he's no good but your now making up hypothetical trebles and shit to Quosh criticisms of him as a manager?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FernandoR20 2,133 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I think you said yourself pretty much the Ramsdens final was just a failure too far, coupled with the karaoke stuff people will naturally still be hurting.Like i said, i don't think he's the man to take us forward. I'm still annoyed.Doesn't mean some fans have to go on a witch hunt against a club legend either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluenose1972 1,405 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 It is the worst Rangers team ever - McCoist does fuck all to make it betterThe very fact your saying the Ramsdens doesnt matter and is a chippy/ned cup kinda sounds desperate as fuck in your defence of the dud and invalidates anything else you want to say to me - how can you call yourself a Rangers fan if you don't want to take pride in winning a winnable trophy is beyond me - but speaks volumes that your so desperate to defend the indefensible in that dud that your losing track of what Rangers is aboutSays it allRamsden Cup means nothing... If we won it we'd be getting slagged forever off of dirty tims. Lets get back where we belong first and foremost and then lets see what weve got. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Ramsden Cup means nothing... If we won it we'd be getting slagged forever off of dirty tims. Lets get back where we belong first and foremost and then lets see what weve got.Were getting slagged 100 times more for not winning it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FernandoR20 2,133 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Exactly so your viewpoint has stayed the same, you admitted he's no good but your now making up hypothetical trebles and shit to Quosh criticisms of him as a manager??No, I was highlighting how it's silly to use the 'if' argument. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 No, I was highlighting how it's silly to use the 'if' argument.Ok then He's still a fucking dud that talks out his arse and embarrasses us weekly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FernandoR20 2,133 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Ok then He's still a fucking dud that talks out his arse and embarrasses us weekly If you twist the quotes then yeah, i suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Like i said, i don't think he's the man to take us forward. I'm still annoyed.Doesn't mean some fans have to go on a witch hunt against a club legend either.I disagree that it's a witch hunt. I'm sorry mate but he's the one who said when we were in admin that we'd not forget all those that kicked us when we were down, yet nothing he's said on Hearts, Dundee Utd, Turnbull Hutton etc has backed that up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FernandoR20 2,133 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I disagree that it's a witch hunt. I'm sorry mate but he's the one who said when we were in admin that we'd not forget all those that kicked us when we were down, yet nothing he's said on Hearts, Dundee Utd, Turnbull Hutton etc has backed that up.Possibly because actions speak louder than words? Lets be fair, it's easy for us to say this but as a manager, he can't exactly come out with "nah im gutted hearts never died" can he? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Possibly because actions speak louder than words? Lets be fair, it's easy for us to say this but as a manager, he can't exactly come out with "nah im gutted hearts never died" can he?He doesn't have to That's a massive myth and the same thing everyone says when trying to defend him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FernandoR20 2,133 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He doesn't have to That's a massive myth and the same thing everyone says when trying to defend himWhat does he say then without getting slaughtered either way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Possibly because actions speak louder than words? Lets be fair, it's easy for us to say this but as a manager, he can't exactly come out with "nah im gutted hearts never died" can he?Of course not but he could be diplomatic and say that he's there to answer questions about Rangers etc when asked, I just don't see the need to go full scale the other way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 What does he say then without getting slaughtered either way?You don't have to insult your intelligence by asking that mate it's so easy What about Hearts will be happy with that - that's their business. I'm here to talk about Rangers So simple and took me less than half a second Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob1969 1,459 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If you look at how Scottish football suffers from Rangers not being in the top tier you also have to accept that Rangers need those clubs too: maybe not so much but as a business we should be playing Hearts and Aberdeen, Hibs and that other lot. We are a business and a football club. For too long we were not acting as a business and look where that took us! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If I were the manager I'd be diplomatic and ride the media wave. If you go on a rant as Rangers manager and make a fool of yourself you tarnish 141 years of sporting history. Leave acting like neds to the filth from the east end. Hearts will get their comeuppance when we meet them on the pitch.Agreed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps95v7 387 Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 You don't have to insult your intelligence by asking that mate it's so easyWhat aboutHearts will be happy with that - that's their business. I'm here to talk about RangersSo simple and took me less than half a secondSpot on mate "here to talk about Rangers" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 For this reason I honestly believe we should have a Manager who has never had any previous ties to us.The media here just try stirring it up with these questions.We should have someone outwith Scottish Football . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 It's not just a different opinion though .... this is him gushing over Hearts about 5 times now, Dunfermline multiple times, Raith Rovers and Turnball Hutton, Dundee United in light of Thomsons latest attacks after the cup draw and the tarriers loadsIt's not just a one off different opinion it's a massive common denominator in one man treating the fans like shite coming out with this pish consistently - and what's worse are the dense ones patting him on the back for itNot everyone stoops to your low level of ambition for our club, some of us don't want to play in the gutter where fans such as yourself call OUR manager 'that bastard' and you think that's what sportsmanship is about - there is only one way to get revenge and that is to win the top league - the rest is just vented frustration and there is no need for our manager to sink to those levels Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norgerpd 280 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He's been asked about Hearts so he's hardly going to come out in public and say ''Yeah I wanted them liquidated''I'm sure Ally has other feelings behind closed doorsWhy doesn't he just say I'm here to discuss MY team and that hertz are not our concern?P.S. fuck them all! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikica Jelavic 41 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Bluepeter9 - Sorry mate but if your not at it with your support of Ally then your a wet dream for everybody that hates our club. Talk about naïve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Not everyone stoops to your low level of ambition for our club, some of us don't want to play in the gutter where fans such as yourself call OUR manager 'that bastard' and you think that's what sportsmanship is about - there is only one way to get revenge and that is to win the top league - the rest is just vented frustration and there is no need for our manager to sink to those levelsHow can you square up your support for the manager with accusing another Bear of having a 'low level of ambition for our club'?Most on here would accuse you of the same! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The sheer delight some on here take in bashing McCoist at every turn, away from results and performances, is extremely disheartening. Alas, I have learned being a Bear doesn't make you decent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Not everyone stoops to your low level of ambition for our club, some of us don't want to play in the gutter where fans such as yourself call OUR manager 'that bastard' and you think that's what sportsmanship is about - there is only one way to get revenge and that is to win the top league - the rest is just vented frustration and there is no need for our manager to sink to those levelsAmazing you accuse me of lacking ambition ironic really that you're one of the few that is happy with this shit - ambition by fuck? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Alas, I have learned being a Bear doesn't make you decent.Been saying that for years mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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