Getstiffed 8,863 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Yet these sides scored less than 20 goals against us in the league. For every goal they scored we scored 6. The only area they outshone us was in the picking the ball out of the net department where they excelled.Who mentioned goals scored? Shouldn't your counter to my point have been to actually counter my point?We win by virtue of having vastly superior resources. We play shit football regardless.Please don't tell me about admin, no gazza or laudrup, Ally's cat died and all the other obstacles the manager has had to overcome. Its tedious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,585 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Who mentioned goals scored?Shouldn't your counter to my point have been to actually counter my point?We win by virtue of having vastly superior resources. We play shit football regardless.Please don't tell me about admin, no gazza or laudrup, Ally's cat died and all the other obstacles the manager has had to overcome. Its tedious."our opponents look sharper and more capable of passing, moving and controlling the football." But clearly not into our net. And who mentioned ex players or cats? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 "our opponents look sharper and more capable of passing, moving and controlling the football." But clearly not into our net. And who mentioned ex players or cats?Me.If the best we can hope for against semi pros is out scoring them with 10 times their budgets, at least, then we are in trouble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluenose1972 1,405 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I wonder if he thinks slow ST uptake might be due to the pish performances on the park.We dont do walking away...oh hold on..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I'm sick of him.Doesn't know how a DOF appointment would work, however not keen on the Idea.How can he not be Keen if he doesn't know how it will work?Ally just tell the UOF to stop hurting the Club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I'm sick of him.Doesn't know how a DOF appointment would work, however not keen on the Idea.How can he not be Keen if he doesn't know how it will work?Ally just tell the UOF to stop hurting the Club.Did he say he wasn't keen on it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob1969 1,500 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 What many people are overlooking is the tremendous pressure placed on any CEO/Chaiman by the fans to back McCoist. Ever since Rangers dropped to Division 3 the fans have demanded Ally get full backing at boardroom level. Any new CEO and/or Chairman HAD to back Ally in order to win over the fans. In turn, Ally has pretty much had free free rein over the last few years. The Club and fans have given Ally plenty but have we seen anything on the park that justifies this level of support? I don't think we have. There's no sign of lessons learned and a new long-term plan for a healthy Rangers being put in place. Ally wants to keep spending and buy success which is what got us in to trouble in the first place.Despite all the money Ally's spent on wages the team we have right now is not even close to being good enough to challenge Celtic. When we get back to the top division Ally will need to buy a whole new team and where will that money come from? By then it'll be too late to promote youth because the fans will be demanding we win the title and stop Celtic. I think Ally will fail when we return to the top division and a new manager will come in and be expected to compete. That will prove to me that our time spent in the lower leagues were a complete waste of time. We could have implimented something great and we've pissed that oppertunity away. Ally is to blame for that.Ally appears to be untouchable. I think Mr.Green wanted to sack Ally but feared a backlash from the fans. The question is what will it take to actually get Ally out of the door (along with Durrant and McDowall). Those 3 are said to be on a combined £1.5m a year on wages and they're not worth it. We need to stop fucking about, do what needs to be done, and replace the manager. We know this needs to be done but are delaying it due to the fans love for Ally. Yes, he's a great guy but he's not a manager and needs to go it's that simple.Now that Green and Mather etc are no longer here they are perfectly free and able to speak out if they wish... No, no sounds of any of them asking for Ally to be sacked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob1969 1,500 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Green set up the company that saved our club and raised 22m in shares, why be angry at him?Green set up a situation where he invested hee-haw and made plenty out of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgers 735 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Yet these sides scored less than 20 goals against us in the league. For every goal they scored we scored 6. The only area they outshone us was in the picking the ball out of the net department where they excelled.It's very much a case that the facts no longer matter, the spin has taken over, people are so desperate to prove their point they tell us scoreing goals is not what the game is about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Did he say he wasn't keen on it?Yep MSM too.The Hootsmon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Yep MSM too.The Hootsmon.Come on mate, you can't just take the headline as though it is what he said.The Q&A in this thread has a whole bunch of actual quotes.... Just believe them, not the tag some hack sticks on to sell a paper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue belle 1 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Sick to the back teeth of McCoist playing dumb about finances. Especially after yesterday's nonsense answers regarding a Director of Football as mentioned in 120 day review. He can't be Mr Big Guy calling the shots & Mr Innocent (I know nothing) at the same time!Stop insulting our intelligence Ally Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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legalbeagle 3,734 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Sick to the back teeth of McCoist playing dumb about finances. Especially after yesterday's nonsense answers regarding a Director of Football as mentioned in 120 day review. He can't be Mr Big Guy calling the shots & Mr Innocent (I know nothing) at the same time!Stop insulting our intelligence AllyWhich nonsense answers were they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 It's very much a case that the facts no longer matter, the spin has taken over, people are so desperate to prove their point they tell us scoreing goals is not what the game is about.Winning is so overrated ! Also the manager is NOT allowed an opinion on anything if ANY fan disagrees with his opinion - we ask for transparency and honesty - - Ally brings that to the table and folk still criticise him for saying ANYTHING . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Sick to the back teeth of McCoist playing dumb about finances. Especially after yesterday's nonsense answers regarding a Director of Football as mentioned in 120 day review. He can't be Mr Big Guy calling the shots & Mr Innocent (I know nothing) at the same time!Stop insulting our intelligence AllyHe is a manager that keeps the playing budget below 30% of budget - hardly a man who is not aware of finance - should he be working with a 20% budget ? A 15% budget? Save your anger for a the various board room charlatans that spent the other 70% of the budget that Ally did not control Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,401 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 He is a manager that keeps the playing budget below 30% of budget - hardly a man who is not aware of finance - should he be working with a 20% budget ? A 15% budget? Save your anger for a the various board room charlatans that spent the other 70% of the budget that Ally did not controlI very much doubt Ally keeps the playing budget below 30%. That would only be the case if he solely gets to pick the players he wants, decides how much to pay them, then does so by personally authorising all payments. If that comes in at under 30% he does it. However, I would imagine Ally is told how much he has to spend. The person telling him how much he has too spend keeps the playing budget below 30%.What we have achieved so far could have been done on a much smaller budget, but if the budget is at a low level compared to turnover, that's okay, but the focus then turns to the abject level of football we have been playing. That is Ally's responsibility. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I very much doubt Ally keeps the playing budget below 30%. That would only be the case if he solely gets to pick the players he wants, decides how much to pay them, then does so by personally authorising all payments. If that comes in at under 30% he does it. However, I would imagine Ally is told how much he has to spend. The person telling him how much he has too spend keeps the playing budget below 30%.What we have achieved so far could have been done on a much smaller budget, but if the budget is at a low level compared to turnover, that's okay, but the focus then turns to the abject level of football we have been playing. That is Ally's responsibility.I can't disagree with that post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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