The Godfather 72,863 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I wonder how Rangers fans would feel if he was on the verge of a takeover at the beggars?I for one would be gutted.We'd probably point out and focus on all the bad things surrounding him and use them to beat the taigs with.That's just what happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'm genuinely not clued up enough on newcastle. To me he seems to have supported the manager with decent funds, and given lengthy contracts to both manager and head of scouting which should provide stability.Geordies appear to hate him because he won't compete on the same financial level as the Chelsea, Man City's etc.Factually, what has he done right or wrong down there that is of note?FFS...I agree with you - he cleared a lot of debt, backed the managers and has a self sustaining club financially - those have got to be goals for our club.No he has not pumped in the stupid cash that Chelsea, Man City etc. have but there are few that can - a financially self sustaining club seems like a great goal at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,446 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 You could be more ambitious than being happy to finish 17th every year - see their atrocious cup record under his ownership (makes Ally's look magnificent)My memory stretches back to Hereford Utd in the early seventies - this, again, is nothing new to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiogh 178 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 My memory stretches back to Hereford Utd in the early seventies - this, again, is nothing new to them Perhaps, I'm talking about a sustained period of 4/5 years of fringe teams being fielded in both cup competitions and early exits every time - all under Pardew and Ashley's watch, due to a complete lack of ambition to win anything because premier league survival is all that is needed for his business model to work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 He can down a pint of lager in one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,364 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 FFS...I agree with you - he cleared a lot of debt, backed the managers and has a self sustaining club financially - those have got to be goals for our club.No he has not pumped in the stupid cash that Chelsea, Man City etc. have but there are few that can - a financially self sustaining club seems like a great goal at the moment.I think hell may have just froze over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,300 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Newcastle fans have a deluded view of their own place in the scheme of things. Where was the club before Ashley? When was the last time they won anything? Yet they mump and moan because they're not up challenging the Manchester clubs, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea. They should wake up and realise that these clubs operate on a totally different financial plane to them. Success for them is top 10 and the odd cup run every couple of years. Without Ashley's firm grip on the tiller they'll be like Leeds Utd in a few years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Louden Tavern 1,765 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 FFS...I agree with you - he cleared a lot of debt, backed the managers and has a self sustaining club financially - those have got to be goals for our club.No he has not pumped in the stupid cash that Chelsea, Man City etc. have but there are few that can - a financially self sustaining club seems like a great goal at the moment.To be pedantic, he never cleared the debt - he switched it so that Newcastle owe him the debt now (circa £120m iirc) - granted it is now in an interest free loan.I listen to podcasts about the EPL and he's often discussed on there. The lack of ambition (specifically not attempting to challenge for cups), refusing to speak to the media, and the way he treated club legends (such as Keegan) are often spoken about for reasons for the dislike in the past though I think currently it is refusing to sack Pardew. Also the commercial deals being loaded in favour of SD rather than the club is used as a criticism.Newcastle do turn a profit and their wage bill is pretty low by EPL standards I think - Personally think they are cutting it a bit fine with the players this season but I don't see them being relegated.GM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wully 48,309 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 We could end up swapping McCoist for Joe Kinnear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,358 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Has he not pumped a fuck load of money into what is a club who will never achieve anything? Maybe the prospect of putting the equivalent money into a club who knows what it is to be the best is his ambition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mongoose 1,007 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 We could end up swapping McCoist for Joe Kinnear.I would swap McCoist for ROY Kinnear! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southdown 1916 350 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Why are you shouting? Ashley took over NUFC around 2007. FA Cup 1955, top division 1926. Hardly Mike Ashley's fault.that's was my point ,thanks for doing my homework for mr Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny_01 2,007 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 u bit worried pal ? u must work in the scottish media ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAmo'sThighs 848 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 God knows what to think, I'm hoping the end game is in sight and this boardroom shite can finally be put to bed. As for Ashley, not too sure what Newcastle fans think, I know many are not happy, but I'll maybe take a look on a Toon forum and get a few of their views. If Ashley is willing to leave Newcastle and buy everyone out and get rid of the leeches and numpties that we have hanging around, that cannot be a bad thing. We need a sustainable business that develops players and makes a profit, aiming to continually get in Europe, showcase the club on that stage again with young talent, a manager with the ideas and methods to develop these players and employ the best young Scottish talent and young talent from Europe that we've scouted early and can showcase. If Ashley can provide this, I doubt anyone would grudge him taking a bonus out of the profits I'm completely fucked off with this though, why is it so hard to just get our finances and plans in order? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I suppose the difference between wanting Ashley to come on board and maybe realising that most of us are not particularly enamored by the man but will have absolutely no choice on the matter is completely lost.I get the impression the Geordies think we are desperate to get Ashley on board when in fact most of us are just hoping that SOMEONE steps up and runs the club properly including getting a decent team on the park. If thats Ashley great, if its someone else then thats great to.The actual personalities involved are a side show - its the end result that counts.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiogh 178 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I suppose the difference between wanting Ashley to come on board and maybe realising that most of us are not particularly enamored by the man but will have absolutely no choice on the matter is completely lost.I get the impression the Geordies think we are desperate to get Ashley on board when in fact most of us are just hoping that SOMEONE steps up and runs the club properly including getting a decent team on the park. If thats Ashley great, if its someone else then thats great to.The actual personalities involved are a side show - its the end result that counts..Great point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime69 514 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 why are people blaming Ashley for Newcastle's on the field performance?he has backed Pardew with money, i seriously doubt Ashley is picking the team and tactics on a saturdayhttp://www.soccerbas...mTabs=transfersthey have actually spent more than they have received in most of the seasons he has been there (apart from the season they sold Cabaye, who wanted to leave i think, and the season Liverpool gave them 35m for Carroll, which is an offer anybody in Britain wouldve snapped up)edit: one season aswell when they sold Martins and Bassong.i dont think anybody can say he hasnt backed the manager, its up to the manager to use it wisely and get the team performing.he might regret giving Pardew his multi year contract all the same Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,446 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Perhaps, I'm talking about a sustained period of 4/5 years of fringe teams being fielded in both cup competitions and early exits every time - all under Pardew and Ashley's watch, due to a complete lack of ambition to win anything because premier league survival is all that is needed for his business model to work.I see - I think he'll find that won't cut it up here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,863 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I see - I think he'll find that won't cut it up here!Yeah because he has to compete with 5-6 clubs who have more resources than him up here..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,446 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I would swap McCoist for ROY Kinnear!Didn't he have an accident with a donkey? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,043 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 he might regret giving Pardew his multi year contract all the samethere's a clause in the contract apparently that means ashley doesnt pay it up fully, maybe 2 years worth at most Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime69 514 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 there's a clause in the contract apparently that means ashley doesnt pay it up fully, maybe 2 years worth at mosti think Pardew is very very luckysitting with a nice bumper contract while the owner is getting all the grief for the teams performance Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yeah because he has to compete with 5-6 clubs who have more resources than him up here.....I take my hat off to you Godfather trying to explain this to some people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,491 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Im not the biggest fan of Ashley but to be fair up here if he pumped 20 million into the club and it wasn't pissed away on rubbish players then we would be looking to win the title in England that money might get you a Chelsea reserve player and pay some of his wages if you were lucky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,863 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Im not the biggest fan of Ashley but to be fair up here if he pumped 20 million into the club and it wasn't pissed away on rubbish players then we would be looking to win the title in England that money might get you a Chelsea reserve player and pay some of his wages if you were lucky.Other side of that is in England they would receive millions in TV money and other sponsorships that you just wouldn’t get near in Scotland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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