STEPPS BOY 77,668 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Are you off your fucking head? Feruz has 6 appearances all season and has scored sweet fuck all and Waghorn has 6 more goals than Cummings already. Never a hope in hell you're a Rangers fanCummings would've scored far more in this Gers team than Waghorn has.You put a 08 Kris Boyd or an 09 Kenny Miller in this team,they'd have scored 35 plus goals in this team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,794 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Cummings would've scored far more in this Gers team than Waghorn has.You put a 08 Kris Boyd or an 09 Kenny Miller in this team,they'd have scored 35 plus goals in this team.Cummings has been in Hibs longer than Waghorn has been in Rangers. So the former has had far more time to adjust, also there is other goal scorers that are forwards in Hibs like Keatings. So Cummings isn't under constant pressure to be the teams main goal scorer like what Waggy is. Waggy shouldn't have that pressure due to the prescene of Miller and Clark. The way miller is played while he and Waggy are on the field is a bit contradictory. There is only one of them in the box, Waggy gets put to the side as a winger with Tav. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 77,668 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Cummings has been in Hibs longer than Waghorn has been in Rangers. So the former has had far more time to adjust, also there is other goal scorers that are forwards in Hibs like Keatings. So Cummings isn't under constant pressure to be the teams main goal scorer like what Waggy is. Waggy shouldn't have that pressure due to the prescene of Miller and Clark. The way miller is played while he and Waggy are on the field is a bit contradictory. There is only one of them in the box, Waggy gets put to the side as a winger with Tav.That's a cool story.Absolutely nothing to do with my point though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,794 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 That's a cool story.Absolutely nothing to do with my point though.Christ gotta make it real simple for you.You said about Cummings scoring more goals than Waggy in this team. The reason Cummings looks "better" is because he's been in hibs longer than Waggy in Rangers.I'll admit Waggy does squander chances but that's what I mean about the pressure. He doesn't have a consistent teammate to back him up and feed him the ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 77,668 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Christ gotta make it real simple for you.You said about Cummings scoring more goals than Waggy in this team. The reason Cummings looks "better" is because he's been in hibs longer than Waggy in Rangers.I'll admit Waggy does squander chances but that's what I mean about the pressure. He doesn't have a consistent teammate to back him up and feed him the ball. You seem quite simple.My point was, if Jason Cummings played in this Rangers team he'd have scored,comfortably, more goals than Waghorn.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,820 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Cummings over Waghorn Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,794 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 You seem quite simple.My point was, if Jason Cummings played in this Rangers team he'd have scored,comfortably, more goals than Waghorn..So you're saying we'd benefit from having Cummings despite Waggy scoring 20 goals in 23 games with rangers while Cummings has scored 14 in 21 games for hibs this season. 37 overall since he started with hibs back in 2013-14(82 appearances). A scoreline that Waggy will easily destroy in his first season with a new squad and manager. Waggy is a far better player than Cummings. Like I said, he's put under constant pressure from "supporters" to be the teams only goal scorer. If we do get a new striker in January, you'll see a change in Waggy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackandra 732 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Soon as we get a few bad results every player is shite. Bring back Daly, Mcculloch etc ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip 359 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Utter pish. Guy will be awesome when he gets proper service. Scored plenty, assists plenty and covers back most of the time. Get yourself to Specsavers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
writingranger 1,456 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Christ gotta make it real simple for you.You said about Cummings scoring more goals than Waggy in this team. The reason Cummings looks "better" is because he's been in hibs longer than Waggy in Rangers.I'll admit Waggy does squander chances but that's what I mean about the pressure. He doesn't have a consistent teammate to back him up and feed him the ball. Even mccoist squandered lots of chances. He got into the positions & so does waghorn. I too think he's a great attacking player but he needs a strike partner that plays a complementary role. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 36,838 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Cummings would've scored far more in this Gers team than Waghorn has.You put a 08 Kris Boyd or an 09 Kenny Miller in this team,they'd have scored 35 plus goals in this team.Another hypothetical love story. You quite literally have no facts to back that up. Miller and Boyd played in this division last season and couldn't score 20 between them lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 77,668 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Another hypothetical love story. You quite literally have no facts to back that up. Miller and Boyd played in this division last season and couldn't score 20 between them lol.Another who can't read.How many goals do you think Kris Boyd or Kenny Miller in their prime would have scored in this team with the chances we've created. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,794 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Another who can't read.How many goals do you think Kris Boyd or Kenny Miller in their prime would have scored in this team with the chances we've created.Do we have Miller and Boyd in their prime on hand?Do you think they'd sign from Hibs and Kilmarnock (also they'd cost 2,500,000) first time round despite us being in the championship? Get your head out your ass and making fantasies that can't be realised. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 77,668 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Do we have Miller and Boyd in their prime on hand?Do you think they'd sign from Hibs and Kilmarnock (also they'd cost 2,500,000) first time round despite us being in the championship? Get your head out your ass and making fantasies that can't be realised.Boyd cost 400 grand from Kilmarnock Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,995 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Cummings and Feruz are better players. As is Sibbald in the position Waghorn plays.You're clueless mate. Feruz has done fuck all at the professional level and Sibbald's a midfielder. Cummings is a promising young player with a lot of talent but he's hardly the most composed finisher as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,794 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Boyd cost 400 grand from Kilmarnock 500,000 back in 06. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnymate1690 783 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Waghorn is a very good player but not a good striker IMO . however he is the best we have at the moment and unless Warburton brings in someone new in Jan he will continue to be our main striker as miller/Clark are pish and i don't see hardie getting a chance Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,082 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Caldwell was in the door two minutes and got shot of them.There is no such thing as a Wigan fan expect Marky.And hows it going for the half wit manager, lost to Blackpool and hardly flying in League One?I'll tell the guy his young son isn't a Wigan fan because some OT clown says so shall I? Thanks for your input. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Waghorn is a good player. However, there is nobody good enough to step up when he hits a dip. He is being relied on a too much.Remember, our current reputation as a club to the outside world isn't great, we are in the second tier, have little money and he never cost much. Bar unearthing a rare quality gem, I'd like to know what the fuck we expect?At a realistic level, I think Waghorns been a great bit of business.This! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Gallant Pioneer 555 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 You're clueless mate. Feruz has done fuck all at the professional level and Sibbald's a midfielder. Cummings is a promising young player with a lot of talent but he's hardly the most composed finisher as well.Not clueless mate just raging. I let my anger get the better of me. Obviously Waghorn is a better player than those 3. Don't know what the hell I was thinking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 5,255 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Roasters.Roasters everywhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,463 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 .Why do people still do this? It used to be a quick fix when you had no choice but to scroll through every page of a thread to get to the last page on the mobile site but there's a button that takes you right to the end of the thread now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think he is a very good player, I think he would be better in a front two with someone who is more of a natural poacher, but I don't think we are moving to that system anytime soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think he needs a rest to be honest - as does Tav. But how do you rest your top scorer when the replacements are shite? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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