jimgers 565 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 It's all down to what the compliance officer and the SFA do now. Our club in addition need to to get in about them, arguing for the maximum punishment to hivs, also the club must ensure the SFA acknowledge our players and staff were verbally religiously (sectarian) abused and physically assaulted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: As I said Hibs should be hammered for the actions of their fans, but I don't believe any team who won a trophy legally should be stripped of that title, those players won the trophy fair and square. IF it was our fans then I would expect the club to be hammered for the actions of our fans but I would not like or expect us to be stripped of a title that we won legally. The trophy should not even get a mention .We fucked that up on our own . The Hivs and the Force are responsible .If you want to even go further .So then are the Sfa Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: As I said Hibs should be hammered for the actions of their fans, but I don't believe any team who won a trophy legally should be stripped of that title, those players won the trophy fair and square. IF it was our fans then I would expect the club to be hammered for the actions of our fans but I would not like or expect us to be stripped of a title that we won legally. Agreed, I wouldn't want them stripped of the cup, but they should be banned from this years Scottish Cup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Just now, eejay the dj said: Nice to see ,you may be with us on this one Dude I was never against yous tbh. As much as my opinions on some of those banned may have rubbed folk the wrong way I've never suggested it was anything other than a reaction to what was going on. I don't think anyone, realistically, thinks every bear on the pitch acted properly but that doesn't absolve the 1000's of Hibs fans who entered the pitch and in many cases headed straight for the Rangers end. I I do think the report is by and large fair but there are some fuckin massive holes in it too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Reading it looks like its just down to Hibs exuberance at the late goal they got on the pitch and had some banter with our players with no physical contact, as the Police struggled to contain the violent Rangers thugs intent on causing trouble. A few minutes later the happy Hibs fans were shown to their seats and behaved impeccably when the Trophy was lifted. What a time to release this as well job done on Rangers by the Sfa over to you now the Rangers Board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Just now, The Dude said: I was never against yous tbh. As much as my opinions on some of those banned may have rubbed folk the wrong way I've never suggested it was anything other than a reaction to what was going on. I don't think anyone, realistically, thinks every bear on the pitch acted properly but that doesn't absolve the 1000's of Hibs fans who entered the pitch and in many cases headed straight for the Rangers end. I I do think the report is by and large fair but there are some fuckin massive holes in it too. That's how Rangers must see it too .Some amount of contradictions .The guy must have written in different days ,depending on what mood he was in Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, jimgers said: It's all down to what the compliance officer and the SFA do now. Our club in addition need to to get in about them, arguing for the maximum punishment to hivs, also the club must ensure the SFA acknowledge our players and staff were verbally religiously (sectarian) abused and physically assaulted. You are asking for too much with either our club or SFA .Fully expect both of us to get punished .And they will come after us during the season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, Smile said: Reading it looks like its just down to Hibs exuberance at the late goal they got on the pitch and had some banter with our players with no physical contact, as the Police struggled to contain the violent Rangers thugs intent on causing trouble. A few minutes later the happy Hibs fans were shown to their seats and behaved impeccably when the Trophy was lifted. What a time to release this as well job done on Rangers by the Sfa over to you now the Rangers Board. Board have already put a statement out seeking an urgent meeting over "contradictions and factual innacurracies" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,328 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 A ban would be fair but not a stripping of the cup. As some said we lost that fair and square. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 13 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Agreed, I wouldn't want them stripped of the cup, but they should be banned from this years Scottish Cup. Not sure about banning from the competition but if they are drawn away during the competition then their fans banned from attending at least. Looked at the report and saw the length of it so not going to comment on it's contents yet, will read it fully on Sunday before considering my response as at this moment in time listening to David Bowie and getting drunk whilst warming up for tomorrow Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 11 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: That's how Rangers must see it too .Some amount of contradictions .The guy must have written in different days ,depending on what mood he was in I'm going to back over it tonight (maybe) or over the weekend with a fine tooth comb and also comparing it against the live footage for timings etc but there's already a few glaring errors or contradictions. Hibs players jumping into the crowd had no real effect/Football authorities must take a strict line on players entering the crowd. The stuff about moats. The horseshit about a retractable tunnel. The suggestion that the track makes it easier to get access to the pitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 1 minute ago, The Dude said: I'm going to back over it tonight (maybe) or over the weekend with a fine tooth comb and also comparing it against the live footage for timings etc but there's already a few glaring errors or contradictions. Hibs players jumping into the crowd had no real effect/Football authorities must take a strict line on players entering the crowd. The stuff about moats. The horseshit about a retractable tunnel. The suggestion that the track makes it easier to get access to the pitch. All these seem very strange and irrelevant in the bigger picture .Bizarre stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, The Dude said: Board have already put a statement out seeking an urgent meeting over "contradictions and factual innacurracies" There needs to be more blame attached to us, in order to justify their recent actions... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Just now, Virtuoso said: There needs to be more blame attached to us, in order to justify their recent actions... I'm sure that will see us get roped in when the punishments are being dished out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Lady 2,380 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, kanjo said: A ban would be fair but not a stripping of the cup. As some said we lost that fair and square. We didn’t deserve it on the day No element of Rangers were excluded from hivs thugs No apology from hivs even now, nothing, Assistant Manager spat on and abused in our technical area, Captain assaulted They will never forget beating Rangers in the final The win should be stripped from the history books, it’s available in the sanctions, if it doesn’t apply for this then fuck knows what merits it, a shooting ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: There needs to be more blame attached to us, in order to justify their recent actions... Aye I'm sure the board want the club to have the book thrown at them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Lady 2,380 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 39 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: Aye it is... if you're happy with it then that's up to you. Police cleared of all blame, sectarian singing during the match,only 15 hibs fans approaching the west end and countless other inaccuracies... Where you even at the match? You gone from As expected, a pile of shite... Sweep sweep ya mhanky bastards It isn’t a pile of shite, hivs are slated, players and fans I didn’t say I was happy with it Collymore syndrome Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, The Dude said: Aye I'm sure the board want the club to have the book thrown at them. My sarcasm obviously never came across as intended Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 You knew just how weak we are as a Board when Petrie was out for a jolly with Regan and the club said nothing, he should have been told to pack his bags from the SFA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,471 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 36 minutes ago, Rangers Lady said: You gone from As expected, a pile of shite... Sweep sweep ya mhanky bastards It isn’t a pile of shite, hivs are slated, players and fans I didn’t say I was happy with it Collymore syndrome So you weren't at the match then ? It is as expected a pile of shite, full of inaccuracies, contradictions and clears police Scotland and the SFA of any blame. Maybe you should read it again... You're not happy with it then but are on here arguing with people to defend it... Collymore syndrome indeed... poor you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom0411 1,226 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Don't see the point in banning the hivs fans from games fek sakes most of them don't go to games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 2 hours ago, cushynumber said: I don't read it like that. I see reasons and explanations for the invasion, but no blame - far from it. Ok - but I read it differently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred H Crawford 1,182 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, Rangers Lady said: It isn’t a pile of shite, hivs are slated, players and fans I didn’t say I was happy with it Slated on one hand , then were told it wasn't a significant factor in another part ! Bizarre to say the least . After reading the report I can't help but feel that the report is just an attempt at muddying the water . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domthenbud 899 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 33 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: There needs to be more blame attached to us, in order to justify their recent actions... ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: As I said Hibs should be hammered for the actions of their fans, but I don't believe any team who won a trophy legally should be stripped of that title, those players won the trophy fair and square. IF it was our fans then I would expect the club to be hammered for the actions of our fans but I would not like or expect us to be stripped of a title that we won legally. They should not be stripped of the Trophy but they should not be able to compete in it this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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