K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: Gilks has done absolutely nothing wrong in the cup games so far so therefore he has done nothing that gives a reason to drop him. As for comments about back up goalie, no he isn't, he is competition to Fod. Why's he not played more in the league then? competition is what you have up front or in central defence - every club has a first choice goalkeeper and back-up it's crazy to suggest otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mailman 330 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm not too fussed either way , I just hope if Gilks plays then he has a good solid game. Remember the backlash Wenger faced last season when Cech was dropped for a champions league game and Ospina had a nightmare . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, Turnberry18 said: The stats don't tell everything though, and this is the strongest opponents we are ever going to play this season. For me, that means the strongest 11. This is a game that if we win it could give us a trophy. Too big a game to drop our first choice gk. This is the League Cup, which is renowned in the club's history. It's a very important game. All games are important but Gilks has better qualities than Fod in certain areas, he marshalls the defence, he gets them into position and he is a lot more vocal, which in this game could be more important. No player who has been playing well deserves to get dropped and in the cup he has been playing well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: Why's he not played more in the league then? competition is what you have up front or in central defence - every club has a first choice goalkeeper and back-up it's crazy to suggest otherwise. Because he has been chosen to play in the cup games, if he was only back up he wouldn't even get cup games. If Fod was fully No1 then why ain't he playing all the cup games as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 No issues at all with Gilks starting. He's been playing the cup games and we shouldn't abandon that policy because it's the tarriers. Makes it look like we're fucking scared of them. Some would argue that Gilks is the better keeper anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 38 minutes ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: All games are important but Gilks has better qualities than Fod in certain areas, he marshalls the defence, he gets them into position and he is a lot more vocal, which in this game could be more important. No player who has been playing well deserves to get dropped and in the cup he has been playing well. We'll have to agree to disagree. I may add that I'll be surprised if Foderingham is not playing in this match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Gilk's seems more than capable. I would have no issue if he starts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,044 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, K.A.I said: Yeah when McGregor was injured and he was called upon. Not the same thing here. Nope even a fit Mcgregor was second to Alexander in the cups Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I think Gilks will play. His clean sheets deserve some reward and he's proved himself to be decent back-up. It will likely be the biggest game he's played in but he seems quite solid.The problem is that the decision to not play your No.1 keeper in a semi-final v Tims can only come back and bite you badly should you lose, especially if the keeper could have played better in the game. MW is a brave man if he chooses not to start Wes. but fortune favours the brave, they say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 2,012 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Gilks hasn't let in a goal in the cup, Wes should play 4 games against them. Sunday should be a good test for Gilks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Gilks clearly has been nominated to play the Cup games (like Alexander was in the past). It would be a snub and poor management to change that now IMO, and sends out the wrong message - like we are scared of them.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,687 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Absolutely fine with that. I don't think there's a lot in it between him and Fod, could be wrong about that obviously, so happy with who ever actually starts on Sunday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I said this the when this subject was first mentioned after the draw was made. I've nothing against Wes but it is worth noting that he's conceded 7 in 2 games against them. It's not like we're talking about dropping someone who's been an absolute standout performer against them. Gilks deserves his chance and in some ways this might actually be the best time to give him it because the fact Wes conceded 5 in the last game might actually take a bit of pressure off him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superally07 387 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 We should always play our best 11 against the Tim's. That should be all that needs said. We can debate who is better but Wes is clearly first choice so he should start. It shouldn't matter what we done against St Mirren years ago etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 When you play the tims you pick your best 11. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 59 minutes ago, TheLoudenTavernier said: I said this the when this subject was first mentioned after the draw was made. I've nothing against Wes but it is worth noting that he's conceded 7 in 2 games against them. It's not like we're talking about dropping someone who's been an absolute standout performer against them. Gilks deserves his chance and in some ways this might actually be the best time to give him it because the fact Wes conceded 5 in the last game might actually take a bit of pressure off him. The Goalie in his prime would have lost 5 to the tims in last game but he'd not have saved Griffiths 30 yrd free kick which would have won them the semi. Play your best 11, end of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,056 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Neil Alexander in Florence...Back up keepers can be just as good. Gilks has not conceeded in the League Cup so I say play him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,749 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Can only think it's a psychological decision so soon after the 5-1 game if Gilks plays, looks and sounds the part when he plays so there should be no problem hopefully ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderbear 150 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 What's Fod done wrong? He's a top class shot stopper and over the years that type of goalie has one us these games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 No issue with this at all. Gilks has obviously been told he plays the league cup games, so he plays the league cup games. The difference between him and Fod is so little that it won't change the outcome of the match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 15,084 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Blue Nosed Babe said: Neil Alexander in Florence...Back up keepers can be just as good. Gilks has not conceeded in the League Cup so I say play him. Macgregor was injured when we went to Florence , it's not really comparable . Not taking away what Alexander done for us but he was our first choice fully fit goalkeeper when we played fiorentina Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Should be the no1 keeper and possibly our best player this season that starts against the filth. This is no time for experiments but if Wes was injured then I think we have a good back up keeper. Sunday is a win at all costs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,406 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 11 hours ago, Big Al II said: Its common place, was obvious from the beginning the had made that choice and so good on him for sticking by his word when it really matters. Its easy to promise something when.it doesnt matter, it takes balls to keep yor word when it comes to the crunch. It takes more balls to make the 'correct' decision for the team, rather than appease one player IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 2,428 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Gilks has been in goal for the league cup, just because we are playing the soap dodgers that shouldn't change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 43 minutes ago, Copland bear said: Should be the no1 keeper and possibly our best player this season that starts against the filth. This is no time for experiments but if Wes was injured then I think we have a good back up keeper. Sunday is a win at all costs. It's a League Cup match. I'm not saying I don't want to beat Celtic, but it's an age away from being win at all costs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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