barcodebear 85 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 http://www.gersnet.co.uk/index.php/news-category/match-analysis/702-counter-pressing-dream Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louden_Greg 827 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 10 minutes ago, barcodebear said: http://www.gersnet.co.uk/index.php/news-category/match-analysis/702-counter-pressing-dream That lad always produces thought provoking stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Warburton would still kill this teams pace if Kranjcar was fit, that's the worry he can't see what others see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 That's a thoughtful article. O'Halloran did get to the byline far more frequently than McKay or others. Holt gets into the box more than others. Windass shot more and displayed more drive from midfield than most. All these things give us more options and make us more unpredictable and tougher to defend against. It also helped that we appeared to defend better, but that's helped by playing better and retaining the ball more, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 It was only Kilmarnock, if we do Hearts and Aberdeen by the same score, we'll be getting somewhere. The team still struggles if we go behind and the opposition shut up shop even more. That obviously didn't happen this weekend. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordandShield 189 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Good article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,922 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 49 minutes ago, Shuggy said: It was only Kilmarnock, if we do Hearts and Aberdeen by the same score, we'll be getting somewhere. The team still struggles if we go behind and the opposition shut up shop even more. That obviously didn't happen this weekend.  This, If we go behind, and we usually do to a sloppy goal, we panic, get nervous, afraid of doing anything wrong and take the easy option, and look awful We get the opening goal we can play keep the ball as we are ahead, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,709 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Plenty tactical jargon in that article, which is nice, chucked it when he mentioned pep guardiola but the basic fact is somebody booted somebody up the arse between st johnstone and the killie game resulting in more effort and urgency all round. We've still only got one Rangers class player at Ibrox and that's KM who for me played an unselfish deeper game on Saturday and held the team together better. Player wise we've got what we've got for the time being. Glad Tav's back even though his defending is a bit suss, and fair play to moh a good positive direct game from the offset put kilmarnock on the back foot early doors and negated them as any kind of a threat, more of this will help confidence all round! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,145 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Very positive signs and our best performance in a while, but it's one game. We need a level of consistency now and like other posters have said when we do this against top six teams then we'll be making real progress. Positive signs though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,326 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I thought Kenny Miller was the difference on Saturday.  His movement and link up was fantastic. We got back to doing well (and inexplicably stopped) what we did early in MW's tenure.  Individauls working hard to create space and angles to take the pass or create room and the team pressing when not in possession . Up in to 2nd now whilst having not played that well during the 1st round of games.  Let's hope we kick on from here.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimgers 565 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 You don't get the luxury of time on the ball in the SPL, the Filth never gave us a moment on the ball in the two games against them recently, St Johnstone copied them and pressed us whenever we had the ball, we continued to try to play through this by holding the ball, slow build up and movement, it wasn't working. With the inclusion of players with more pace, plus a faster tempo of movement and passing. Hopefully we have learned to counter the opposition's Plan A. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,793 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Cracking read that  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,409 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said: This, If we go behind, and we usually do to a sloppy goal, we panic, get nervous, afraid of doing anything wrong and take the easy option, and look awful We get the opening goal we can play keep the ball as we are ahead, Didn't hurt that they had nothing in midfield whatsoever. Be interesting when we come up against some of the more combative midfields, as we've seen already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 44 minutes ago, markem said: I thought Kenny Miller was the difference on Saturday.  His movement and link up was fantastic. We got back to doing well (and inexplicably stopped) what we did early in MW's tenure.  Individauls working hard to create space and angles to take the pass or create room and the team pressing when not in possession . Up in to 2nd now whilst having not played that well during the 1st round of games.  Let's hope we kick on from here.  Kenny does a lot of coaching on the pitch aswell, tells people where to be and stuff. Kenny wouldn't think twice about chasing back to win the ball back in his own box and demands the same effort from his team mates. A born winner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,306 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Very good analysis of the game. I was really noticeable that the ball carrier had the players much closer to him, creating more options and overloading. It really is an important part of our game. When we play badly its usually because too many players are too far away from the ball carrier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,306 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, markem said: I thought Kenny Miller was the difference on Saturday.  His movement and link up was fantastic. We got back to doing well (and inexplicably stopped) what we did early in MW's tenure.  Individauls working hard to create space and angles to take the pass or create room and the team pressing when not in possession . Up in to 2nd now whilst having not played that well during the 1st round of games.  Let's hope we kick on from here.  I agree. Miller was the player who really made us tick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,306 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 59 minutes ago, HG5 said: Didn't hurt that they had nothing in midfield whatsoever. Be interesting when we come up against some of the more combative midfields, as we've seen already. While this is true its all about options... the player with the ball needs the other players to be closer which gives him options. We did that very well against killie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 3 hours ago, OlegKuznetsov said: That's a thoughtful article. O'Halloran did get to the byline far more frequently than McKay or others. Holt gets into the box more than others. Windass shot more and displayed more drive from midfield than most. All these things give us more options and make us more unpredictable and tougher to defend against. It also helped that we appeared to defend better, but that's helped by playing better and retaining the ball more, Spot-on. Football is a really simple game and I think Warburton tries to complicate it sometimes too much by over-thinking strategies and tactics. Although I would urge caution. Kilmarnock, even though our best display this season, is still just one game. I see this all the time on here people get carried away after one good game and also one bad game. I'm looking at us overall and I still see a shit-load of average players in our team who just so happened to play really well at the weekend. We need to do this every week, or most weeks. Which we haven't done except for the first half of last season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer 124 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 That was a great read and summed up my own thoughts on the game. Our pressing, movement and pace made us so hard to play against and if we do that every week we'll start to pick up more wins. No changes on Sunday for me, no one deserves to be dropped after that performance! Â Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourne2Win 40 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Excellent Read, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,409 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, johanhentze said: While this is true its all about options... the player with the ball needs the other players to be closer which gives him options. We did that very well against killie. Oh yes - we made good use of the opportuity, no question about that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soprano 13,964 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Good read  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: Spot-on. Football is a really simple game and I think Warburton tries to complicate it sometimes too much by over-thinking strategies and tactics. Although I would urge caution. Kilmarnock, even though our best display this season, is still just one game. I see this all the time on here people get carried away after one good game and also one bad game. I'm looking at us overall and I still see a shit-load of average players in our team who just so happened to play really well at the weekend. We need to do this every week, or most weeks. Which we haven't done except for the first half of last season. Absolutely. We have to keep perspective. However, in our first season back in the top tier, when some time to adjust is only natural, it's moderately positive that we have got to second fairly early. This is especially so, given we had probably the two toughest games away to the the scum and sheep, and the latter we were unlucky to lose. Of course, we should get second, with time to adjust, given our budget.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,556 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 9 hours ago, Shuggy said: It was only Kilmarnock, if we do Hearts and Aberdeen by the same score, we'll be getting somewhere. The team still struggles if we go behind and the opposition shut up shop even more. That obviously didn't happen this weekend.  It's the same Kilmarnock who beat St Johnstone 1-0, drew with Inverness then beat Hearts 2-0. Let's not underplayed the result here, it was a solid victory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I'm far from convinced despite the performance and victory on Saturday.  We need to sign around 6 first team starters ie players who are unquestionably better than what we currently have. Starting with two centre half's. We will still drop points to regularly with both our current squad and rigid philosophy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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