He's blue he's white 717 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 2 hours ago, sammy cox said: All about opinions but im sticking with mine and that we need goals and that means an out and out goal scorer.To many games and to many chances squandered by all the front line,Miller,Garner,Waghorn,Mckay etc. As I say games are won by outscoring the opposition and we are obviously not.The goals for which our front line have contributed this season is pish.You can look at the midfield and perhaps lay some of the blame but the facts are there in black and white we are not scoring enough goals,they are all missing those few chances that come along.Thats the difference between an average striker and a good striker,taking those few chances that come along. Aye and nothing to do with the build up attacking play that takes around 20mins for each attack and by that time, the opposing full team bar 1 have made their way into the box. if rossiter can get and stay fit, he should play week in week out. If not then we need a really good cm and also a creative midfielder before a striker imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy cox 664 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 16 minutes ago, He's blue he's white said: Aye and nothing to do with the build up attacking play that takes around 20mins for each attack and by that time, the opposing full team bar 1 have made their way into the box. if rossiter can get and stay fit, he should play week in week out. If not then we need a really good cm and also a creative midfielder before a striker imo. Aye that's right.If a chance is made after 4 passes or 24 makes no difference if the man finishing it misses.No point in having midfielders creating chances for forwards to miss them.Our problem isn't losing goals it's not scoring enough and the table shows us all that.Chances have been made in every game we have played,Sunday being a prime example yet one goal scored.Good chances have been created and squandered all season to quote MW who repeats it often enough " we are not clinical enough " Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,447 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, jackrfc95 said: That's the best of it, he's exactly the type of player we're missing.. But the type of person we won't miss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,583 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Transfer targets? We're expecting Dave King to buy his players in January? Oh naw, I don't see that happening, at least any that are actually good enough anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 3 hours ago, jackrfc95 said: That's the best of it, he's exactly the type of player we're missing.. Hes bowfin. Got showed up by a mediocre scott brown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, sammy cox said: Aye that's right.If a chance is made after 4 passes or 24 makes no difference if the man finishing it misses.No point in having midfielders creating chances for forwards to miss them.Our problem isn't losing goals it's not scoring enough and the table shows us all that.Chances have been made in every game we have played,Sunday being a prime example yet one goal scored.Good chances have been created and squandered all season to quote MW who repeats it often enough " we are not clinical enough " It absolutely does make a difference, if you've played football you'd know that. Warburton made 3 changes on Sunday and those 3 changes were the front three, were actually the problem was the midfield. Our slow build up play is very pedictable and one dimensional - we need to have guys on the park who get defenders turning - not allowing them to play where they can see. Agree we can get more outta our strikers, we change the formation and system and I would guarantee we would see better individual performances, team solidity and us winning more. How much u reckon it would cost to get a clinical striker you refer too, someone that will take these limited chances we create on a regular basis? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 7 hours ago, jackrfc95 said: He was outside Lennoxtown in the summer begging the scum to sign him though Where'd that come from mate - the timmigrants would be frothing their scurvy all over the place if that was public knowledge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy cox 664 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, He's blue he's white said: It absolutely does make a difference, if you've played football you'd know that. Warburton made 3 changes on Sunday and those 3 changes were the front three, were actually the problem was the midfield. Our slow build up play is very pedictable and one dimensional - we need to have guys on the park who get defenders turning - not allowing them to play where they can see. Agree we can get more outta our strikers, we change the formation and system and I would guarantee we would see better individual performances, team solidity and us winning more. How much u reckon it would cost to get a clinical striker you refer too, someone that will take these limited chances we create on a regular basis? Whether I've played football or not is nothing to do with anything.I and plenty more have seen to many chances missed by all especially our forward line just like Sunday, Miller and Garner.The table does not lie.Outwith the scum game and the 2 we lost to Aberdeen the last one of those 2 debateable we are losing a goal a game or less.Our trouble is we are not scoring to finish these teams off.If you think signing more midfielders is the answer by all means that is your opinion.I on the other hand believe that no matter who plays in the middle our front line are not finishing whatever chances are created. In answer to your question about how much a clinical striker would cost we only have to look at the scum and Dembele and that will give you an idea of what can be done in this pishy league. How much do you think you will pay for your CM and creative midfielder? We need goals plain and simple.The chances which have been created have not been put away and that is the difference between winners and losers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, WATP-FOREVER said: Where'd that come from mate - the timmigrants would be frothing their scurvy all over the place if that was public knowledge. In the Charlie Adam thread in the football section. Some will believe anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,711 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 14 hours ago, SteveEarle said: So was Charlie...... Was thinking that myself, but it would've been like the pot, calling the kettle black.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 08/11/2016 at 11:03 PM, stevemac said: Wondering what folks suggestions are for transfer targets in the upcoming window? Heard about this rushian kid from villa, but from what i gather he's no really a priority signing as most of us know we need someone to make the defence rock solid and a winger that can beat a man and put it in the box. Striker probably won't be addressed with us splashing on garner so I suspect any activity will be to aid the supply to the strikers and warbs is banking on garner and waggy pulling their fingers out and finishing chances. I often see people posting names of players and rough transfer values so just thought I'd see if a thread could get going listing players, where there from and whether they are realistic (all probably sub £1m with the financial situation) Getting Barton off the wage bill is a big help towards us bringing some talent in. So what do yous reckon? WATP Willow Flood is realistic under the current strategy - just saying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Diego Poyet is still without a club. 22yr old, played well at Charlton. Decent experience for his age. Defensive mid. Sell on potential and free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 17 hours ago, sammy cox said: Whether I've played football or not is nothing to do with anything.I and plenty more have seen to many chances missed by all especially our forward line just like Sunday, Miller and Garner.The table does not lie.Outwith the scum game and the 2 we lost to Aberdeen the last one of those 2 debateable we are losing a goal a game or less.Our trouble is we are not scoring to finish these teams off.If you think signing more midfielders is the answer by all means that is your opinion.I on the other hand believe that no matter who plays in the middle our front line are not finishing whatever chances are created. In answer to your question about how much a clinical striker would cost we only have to look at the scum and Dembele and that will give you an idea of what can be done in this pishy league. How much do you think you will pay for your CM and creative midfielder? We need goals plain and simple.The chances which have been created have not been put away and that is the difference between winners and losers. It's all about opinions mate, I would rather we spent the money on a couple of midfielders - if Waghorn does indeed leave then possibly a forward then, however I still don't see that as the priority area. Dembele is one of those situations that is just very fortunate - he would normally cost 5mil upwards I would reckon...similar to young Rossiter. I hope he gets and stays fit as I think he can be a real standout star player for us, and one that should generate a huge profit. We will see 2/3 loan players in January at best sadly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluchoo 846 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Adam Rooney Graeme Shinnie Shay Logan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, bluchoo said: Adam Rooney Graeme Shinnie Shay Logan Shite Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I think theres only one or two games we have not scored in this season even when we do score we cant stop the other team scoring defence is frail as fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 24 minutes ago, Smile said: I think theres only one or two games we have not scored in this season even when we do score we cant stop the other team scoring defence is frail as fuck. We have the third best defensive record in the league, yet we are in 6th place in terms of goals scored with 16 goals in 12 games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Murray Davidson. Get him signed to entice Ally back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 If we get another forward in without moving on some we have, I am moving to america. Maybe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,576 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 We need a striker, a CB, a winger and a CM. However, due to circumstances there's no way we're going to get another striker or CB. So a winger and a CM. Sam Nicholson? Only seem him a few times, didn't do anything in one game but looked great in the others. So this is more of a question than a suggestion and I'd have no idea how much he'd cost. But I'm thinking it might be over a £1m. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insider 123 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Can't see us buying anyone, even if we sell. We will probably get a couple of young guys on loan. Another bad transfer window could be fairly disastrous in the short and medium term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluekev 44,316 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 We'll go for anyone on a free that has been plagued with injuries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Very difficult to get players in during January so no chance we'll get anyone of any note. Most likely loans from premiership clubs or players none of us have heard of from the lower leagues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamibianBear 1,851 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Realistic target(s)? Realistically, anyone that is free and costs no wages is about all this board can afford. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,254 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 If anybody comes in it will be players on loan which I would be happy with because January is a shit time to buy anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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