Torontoblue76 120 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 17 minutes ago, Jamie0202 said: For everybody saying Aird is shite are you basing this on having seen him play recently or are you judging him on what you saw when he had a few games for us in a position which is no longer his? He's a young man who deserves every chance to prove himself again. Might not make it but I think as a support we write off players far too easily. Appreciate your optimism but yes I have seen him play for Vancouver. HE started there as you would hope, positive and determined to prove his worth, but struggled after a few matches. He has pace and commitment but... well, I'll let people who know more about the technical aspects of the game fill in the rest! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson1872 2,923 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 You don't play regularly in a league far better than the SPL at the age of 21 by being shite he is obviously a lot better than half you cunts think he is based on a few performances 3 year ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 63,425 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Welcome home Airdo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Moody Blue Legend said: Welcome home Airdo! Could be the answer to our goalscoring woes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,490 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 He can't be THAT bad with the record he had at Vancouver. Guy has been competing against higher standard than the Premiership has. Will be interesting to see if he fits in and/or is in the managers plans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 63,425 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, plumbGER said: Could be the answer to our goalscoring woes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 10 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: I thought he was more a left back, but yes he can also play right. Other way round Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 2,018 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, LiviGer said: Name a defender who hasn't cost us a goal this season. Aird is no better than what we have. Hodson just looks like a below average player to me. I was at the game where he cost us that goal, and he was clueless throughout. No positional sense at all. Agree with you about Aird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Trooblue said: Hodson just looks like a below average player to me. I was at the game where he cost us that goal, and he was clueless throughout. No positional sense at all. Agree with you about Aird. He made a mistake early in that gane and never recovered. He had performed well in other games for us and looks decent when he plays for Norther Ireland, in fact was that game not a few days after he got NI mom against Germany? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontoblue76 120 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 The top end of the MLS is around the same level as Rangers/Celtic/Aberdeen. But there are some pretty poor teams in there lower down if we're honest, though it is improving. And for clarity, there were 34 regular season games for Whitecaps last season and he started 18 of them, playing in a further 4 cup games. A regular starter, but not the first name on the team sheet by any means. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Skyson1872 said: You don't play regularly in a league far better than the SPL at the age of 21 by being shite I'm amazed some people still use this theory of "he plays well in a higher standard of league so will be amazing here". The majority of the players that make up our current squad came from a better standard of league in England, and we're currently struggling to cling on to 3rd place in the league. Barton was supposed to have torn this league apart and look how he turned out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladimirWeiss69 947 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Torontoblue76 said: The top end of the MLS is around the same level as Rangers/Celtic/Aberdeen. But there are some pretty poor teams in there lower down if we're honest, though it is improving. And for clarity, there were 34 regular season games for Whitecaps last season and he started 18 of them, playing in a further 4 cup games. A regular starter, but not the first name on the team sheet by any means. Tbf the MLS will wipe the floor money wise compared to the SPL, there is still a good number of decent players there! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 2,018 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 10 hours ago, plumbGER said: He made a mistake early in that gane and never recovered. He had performed well in other games for us and looks decent when he plays for Norther Ireland, in fact was that game not a few days after he got NI mom against Germany? You could be right about the Germany game, and I had read about how good he was meant to be, which is why I was so disappointed in what I saw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson1872 2,923 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 15 hours ago, BF2 said: I'm amazed some people still use this theory of "he plays well in a higher standard of league so will be amazing here". The majority of the players that make up our current squad came from a better standard of league in England, and we're currently struggling to cling on to 3rd place in the league. Barton was supposed to have torn this league apart and look how he turned out. Most of us thought Barton would walk this league, you would have to have been deluded not to. Obviously didn't pan out that way but did we give him a chance? Yes. Why can't Aird get a chance? Because he wasn't Messi at the age of 19? Fucking ridiculous to write him off before we have even seen him play again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Skyson1872 said: Most of us thought Barton would walk this league, you would have to have been deluded not to. Obviously didn't pan out that way but did we give him a chance? Yes. Why can't Aird get a chance? Because he wasn't Messi at the age of 19? Fucking ridiculous to write him off before we have even seen him play again I'm not saying he hasn't improved during his time away. Maybe he has, I don't know. I don't watch the MLS because it's over-dramatized American pish. But the theory of any player who has played in a higher standard of league will walk the SPL has been proved wrong multiple times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,399 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 He may be decent he may not. But if he can't improve the team (and who is he realistically going to replace - Tav?) then it's better he continued his development and career elsewhere. Hardie is the only one I reckon could come in right now and have an impact if given a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontoblue76 120 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Thought bears might find this of interest from a Vancouver fan: http://www.eightysixforever.com/2016/11/21/13698396/fraser-aird-done-with-the-vancouver-whitecaps Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 On 21/11/2016 at 6:30 PM, Skyson1872 said: You don't play regularly in a league far better than the SPL at the age of 21 by being shite he is obviously a lot better than half you cunts think he is based on a few performances 3 year ago The RangersMedia bastien of football knowledge has spoken. Even the lad from Toronto has said he's pish (in a nice way) ... I'd bet he's seen more of him than you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vwbear 399 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Go back and watch out shocking championship days once we were up against some full time opposition under ally and watch aird ? While so many of our fans were boycotting we had to watch aird type players he was clueless hopeless and had no idea of his surroundings the torture of watching him and foster chase each others shadows in the 4 0 debacle at easter road will haunt me until the day i die. 1 of his last appearances at st mirren he came on as a sub and was embarrassing and did not resemble a footballer at any level Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camshy 817 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 On 21/11/2016 at 8:49 PM, Torontoblue76 said: The top end of the MLS is around the same level as Rangers/Celtic/Aberdeen. But there are some pretty poor teams in there lower down if we're honest, though it is improving. And for clarity, there were 34 regular season games for Whitecaps last season and he started 18 of them, playing in a further 4 cup games. A regular starter, but not the first name on the team sheet by any means. Standard in that league is no where near the level of over here, every game I watch and the defending is lower league football its that bad. People always knock our game and under estimate it, sure its not the greatest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbie1980 36 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 He at least deserves a chance after coming back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Oh posh spice is a slapper she's got a hairy baird and when she's shaging Beckham she thinks if Fraser Aird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,818 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, pollok-bear said: Oh posh spice is a slapper she's got a hairy baird and when she's shaging Beckham she thinks if Fraser Aird. Jesus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,630 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I watched a few of his games over there when Sky televised them. He looked a decent player at that level, but it didn't look a particularly high level. If we didn't have Hodson I'd retain him for cover. As is, there's probably not much point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson83 1,059 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, pollok-bear said: Oh posh spice is a slapper she's got a hairy baird and when she's shaging Beckham she thinks if Fraser Aird. Step away from the computer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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