LiviGer 648 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 If so, why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Is there a better manager out there who is willing to take on this job? Celtic have monopolised the Scottish game while we're expected to compete with no money to spend. How many managers who hold dear their reputation would accept this thankless task? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,684 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Derek Mcinnes and Ian Cathro Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,202 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 NO and if anybody says yes, they are fucking deluded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 We've ran a poll. 525 (33% of those who have voted so far) want to keep him http://www.gotthebattlefeveron.com/2017/2/4/14508738/fan-poll-should-mark-warburton-be-sacked-as-rangers-manager Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim beam 2,188 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Yes every other manager in this league as they all know exactly what the formation will be and when substitutions will be made months in advance of playing us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamcarvel9 87 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Is there a better manager out there who is willing to take on this job? Celtic have monopolised the Scottish game while we're expected to compete with no money to spend. How many managers who hold dear their reputation would accept this thankless task? No money to spend?? £1.8M on Garner, £500K on O'Halloran, £250K on a back up Keeper who's not gonna see the 1st team? Have Hearts or Aberdeen spent £2.5M+?? That's not even considering the development fees for Rossiter/Dodoo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Is there a better manager out there who is willing to take on this job? Celtic have monopolised the Scottish game while we're expected to compete with no money to spend. How many managers who hold dear their reputation would accept this thankless task? He can barely compete with Hearts and Aberdeen despite spending double what they do. What would we need to give him to match Celtic? Couple hundred mllion maybe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, williamcarvel9 said: No money to spend?? £1.8M on Garner, £500K on O'Halloran, £250K on a back up Keeper who's not gonna see the 1st team? Have Hearts or Aberdeen spent £2.5M+?? That's not even considering the development fees for Rossiter/Dodoo or the 10m per year in first team wages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, bornabear said: NO and if anybody says yes, they are fucking deluded. You will find most of them also support the mendacious one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 There are many who want to keep him as manager and the vast majority support a team in the east end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 It may be we have to keep him as we cant aford to sack him, he needs to go against his experiment and shape the team in a formation the players would be more comfortable playing. No one likes anyone being sacked but he is running out of days before this happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Yes, because he is for the long term, I think his plans are very much in the long term: there is not set template for success; sacking managers is not in itself a template for success, and I see no visible alternative beyond what we are doing right now. If there was a better manager who would guarantee success, yes, i would want that manager. But under what conditions would those guarantees come? The whole ethos of the club has had to change, and that is underway here. I researched this recently and in two cases where this has been done before, Bill Shankly at Liverpool, and Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United, there was short term "failure" followed by success, where those type of plans were implemented. There is no certainty that Warburton will, given time, succeed, but there is still no certainty that he will fail either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: You will find most of them also support the mendacious one. 1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said: There are many who want to keep him as manager and the vast majority support a team in the east end. Throw enough and you'll get one that'll stick eventually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grfc1872 56 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: Yes, because he is for the long term, I think his plans are very much in the long term: there is not set template for success; sacking managers is not in itself a template for success, and I see no visible alternative beyond what we are doing right now. If there was a better manager who would guarantee success, yes, i would want that manager. But under what conditions would those guarantees come? The whole ethos of the club has had to change, I researched this recently and in two cases where this has been done before, Bill Shankly at Liverpool, and Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United, there was short term "failure" followed by success, where those type of plans are implemented. There is no certainty that Warburton will, given time, succeed, but there is still no certainty that he will fail either. He's Failed on all levels Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Well, at least in the misery of some of the stuff we have had to watch recently we get back to the norm of RM wanting the manager sacked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 He wouldn't know a plan if he fell over one. Thick as two sort ones. As for failing, he already has and we are a laughing stock as a consequence Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 No, I would rather Jimmy Calderwood was in charge until the end of the season then we can invest in a better fit manager to really take us forward in the summer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonRFC82 305 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Yes, to answer OP! Could we do better with current resource, yes but to alter actual position against the micks requires either immediate cash or longterm strategy. No easy short term fix reverses 4 years outside top league regardless of jumping up and down saying 'we are Rangers, we dont do 2nd" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, grfc1872 said: He's Failed on all levels Can you explain that? Firstly, what are all the levels? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, nelsonRFC82 said: Yes, to answer OP! Could we do better with current resource, yes but to alter actual position against the micks requires either immediate cash or longterm strategy. No easy short term fix reverses 4 years outside top league regardless of jumping up and down saying 'we are Rangers, we dont do 2nd" And the long term strategy to overtake the scum would be? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bam74 978 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said: Derek Mcinnes and Ian Cathro Ffs. Warburton needs to go but Ian Cathro. Away for a lie down Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,684 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, bam74 said: Ffs. Warburton needs to go but Ian Cathro. Away for a lie down Yup, definitely a bam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonRFC82 305 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: And the long term strategy to overtake the scum would be? Fair point, but I think he has played a big part in implementing a change in how we play/develop our youth teams. On the 1st team (clearly his most important remit!), I like what he is trying to build. It is miles off and I think you could expect better on a pound for pound basis.. but that itself wouldnt catch Celtic! We need to sig ificantly outperform investment and that requires a synergy of tactics/style > investment. He may not be the best but may be our best hope! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 He's probably one of the worst, if not the worst manager in the league. Every other manager has managed to read his tactics and line up s and adjust their game to combat ours in some way. Was same last season to a degree as well only the financial gulf was even greater then making it easier for him to win more games than not. To suggest no one could do better with similar budget is a joke. He's using a sledgehammer to do his job as apposed to rivals using a 3 inch toffee hammer. Fucking Gus MacPherson, Jimmy Calderwood, Ian McColl, Billy Davies, Stuart McCall, all non entities like them are better managers and all know exactly what it means to be part of this club. No doubt they would do better. In fact i am not even sure McCoist could do a worse job. Not that i want any of them before someone has a heart attack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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