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33 minutes ago, Loyal72 said:

He was playing for Bournemouth & then Wycombe, during a time period where players were required to be vaccinated to play & travel. 

Fleck, Wyke, Herron as well, all collapsing after their vaccines.

To say there's nothing at all in it, is just lying tbh.

You need to actually do some reading before posting any sort of argument, fuck me man.

Wyke wasn’t vaccinated, Sheffield United and someone close to Fleck both said it was fuck all to do with the vaccine.

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51 minutes ago, Loyal72 said:

He was playing for Bournemouth & then Wycombe, during a time period where players were required to be vaccinated to play & travel. 

Fleck, Wyke, Herron as well, all collapsing after their vaccines.

To say there's nothing at all in it, is just lying tbh.

https://wiganathletic.com/news/2021/november/Club-Statement-Charlie-Wyke/

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28 minutes ago, Loyal72 said:

These two articles here:

https://academic.oup.com/europace/article/25/2/627/6763074

https://academic.oup.com/europace/article/25/2/255/6986607

The charts are on the second article toward the bottom.

You said:

34 minutes ago, Loyal72 said:

There were 147 cardiac events in athletes between 2011-2019, which was actually an improvement on the 150 between 1995-2005. there have been 125 in 2019-2023. 

This is from AcademicCoup.

 

 

The articles you posted are for data on recreational and competitive cardiac related events in Germany and Paris across 2012-2019. I can't even find a comparison to the previous or post years of the data in the study.

The fact that it includes recreational data means that your claim that there were 147 cardiac events in athletes is completely misleading.

It says in the results: "The majority of SrSCAs occurred in recreational sports participants (n = 132, 91.7%), with only 12 (8.3%) occurring in elite competitive athletes (athlete’s status in the remaining 3 cases was unclear)."

Are the 150 and 125 figures from the same cohort?

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41 minutes ago, Loyal72 said:

These two articles here:

https://academic.oup.com/europace/article/25/2/627/6763074

https://academic.oup.com/europace/article/25/2/255/6986607

The charts are on the second article toward the bottom.

These don't say anything close to the argument you're trying to make.

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33 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

I noticed his disappeared after his random studies he’s dropped into the chat 😂 

Quite the comedown from 'Who ye calling a moron ya fuckin prick jump in here and start on me, come ahead ya rat.' :lol: 

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3 hours ago, psb07158 said:

There was a US-based study by the NCBI in 2016 on how athletes have a higher risk of cardiac arrest due to intense physical activity, and for an as-yet unknown reason, it disproportionately affects different races. Added to that, the risk is higher among basketball players than athletes in other sports

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/

There’s a certain area/historical ethnicity within west Africa where a lot of football players had cardiac arrests. I remember seeing an article about it and how it affected people from this area disproportionately (vast area geographically but maybe similar ancestors/gene pools), compared to others. 
 

There’s almost nothing you can do to prevent it unless you detect it before it happens e.g. Ofoborh/Goldson etc. Scary because it can happen anytime…

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6 hours ago, The Dude said:

Still not found your way back here @Loyal72?

Don't think he's coming back in here.

Anyway, glad to hear that Bronny is on the mend, LeBron posted about it earlier. 

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