TMB 14,167 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I'd have Alves and McCrorie. A good mixture of youth and experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Alves & McCrorie, although still give Cardoso a good amount of games so after Alves' contract expires Cardoso can step up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soprano 13,964 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 McCrorie and Wilson for now. They've both earned their places. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,456 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 McCrorie's still got a lot of developing to do so I hope he doesn't get slated if he makes a mistake or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 20 hours ago, Leeds_Bear said: Have to say if it wasn’t for poor shooting from Thistle they would’ve scored one or two yesterday, Wilson is terrible at letting his man run by him and all their chances came from him misreading his man/ball watching. I’d bring Alves back in alongside McCrorie, it would be fantastic for his development to play alongside some with the experience Alves has. Seen MvCrorie get on the wrong side of his man a couple of times, giving away a free kick on one occasion. What I don't get is, with our keeper being so bad at free kicks, why don't we have a man on the post at free kicks? It would help a hell of a lot. Lafferty probably wouldn't have scored that freekick if we had a man on that post. At the very least, it would've put him off. He would've had a lot less space to aim for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,145 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Seen MvCrorie get on the wrong side of his man a couple of times, giving away a free kick on one occasion. What I don't get is, with our keeper being so bad at free kicks, why don't we have a man on the post at free kicks? It would help a hell of a lot. Lafferty probably wouldn't have scored that freekick if we had a man on that post. At the very least, it would've put him off. He would've had a lot less space to aim for. I think I saw McCrorie miss one header against Partick but look at Wilson's position, he should've been running off the back of him to make sure he was covering his runner if Ross did miss his header. Whereas watch McCrorie's position when Wilson is going up for headers, he's often anticipating the worst. Wes Morgan does it brilliantly for Leicester and Davie Weir was the master of it. Wilson is great if you ask him to do the easy stuff, but he's not got the intelligence to be our first choice centre back - McCrorie looks like he does, although time will tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 And to answer the OPs question, I would go with Alves and Wilson with McCrorie getting as much game time as possible, whether it be at CB or DM, so by the time Alves either leaves or gets "past it" McCrorie should have enough experience to play every game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Leeds_Bear said: I think I saw McCrorie miss one header against Partick but look at Wilson's position, he should've been running off the back of him to make sure he was covering his runner if Ross did miss his header. Whereas watch McCrorie's position when Wilson is going up for headers, he's often anticipating the worst. Wes Morgan does it brilliantly for Leicester and Davie Weir was the master of it. Wilson is great if you ask him to do the easy stuff, but he's not got the intelligence to be our first choice centre back - McCrorie looks like he does, although time will tell. See above. That would be my reply to your post. (tu) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,676 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Been impressed with Wilson but I'd go with Alves and McCrorie Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,772 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Alves and McCrorie Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Its a good problem to have. I think we are all agreed that Cardoso should be our 4th choice CB? Anyone disagree with that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,134 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Its a good problem to have. I think we are all agreed that Cardoso should be our 4th choice CB? Anyone disagree with that? Me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crombie1873 142 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Wouldn't mind seeing McCrorie getting a run of games alongside Alves, experience he could gain from someone like Alves at this stage of his career would be invaluable and could really set him up to be a great player! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,425 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I’ve never really been that convinced by Cardoso so now that we have McCrorie pushing him for his starting place I’m wondering why we spent the money we did on him when we already had a young centre back at the club who’s better suited to the league we play in ready to make the step up to the first team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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broomloanjamie 256 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 On 05/11/2017 at 19:37, trueblueal said: McCrorie is a good young player but there's a danger he's being made into Franz Beckenbauer here when he's actually cost us 3 or 4 goals. I'd play him against most teams but against Aberdeen and them I'd probably side with Wilson next to Alves. I'd have Alves in every week. That's one way of ripping the confidence right out a young lad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, broomloanjamie said: That's one way of ripping the confidence right out a young lad I'm not saying hes not a cracking prospect, but let's see how he develops. He's very green, he's made a few rash tackles and been out of position for a couple of goals. On the ball he looks excellent and he has time I'm his side. Similar to John Stone's in some ways Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxterboy 476 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 McCrorie, even though he is still learning, is our best centre backs and should be playing every game. However, one of the most critical aspects of managing today is the amount of game time given to young players. Too much game time will seriously affect the long term development of McCrorie. We should have varying formations relative to who we're playing - most times 2 centre backs but against the likes of the scum - 3 cb. Like brenda did against the sheep. With a mainly 2 centre back and periodic 3 cb formation, along with occasional rotation, all four get game time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,831 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 This is a great problem to be having...a few months ago it was Kiernan etc? I'd look at the debate another way. Last season if we missed a first choice centre back we were always struggling. Now if there is an injury/suspension I feel reasonably comfortable that whoever plays can slot in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 On 05/11/2017 at 18:27, Leeds_Bear said: Have to say if it wasn’t for poor shooting from Thistle they would’ve scored one or two yesterday, Wilson is terrible at letting his man run by him and all their chances came from him misreading his man/ball watching. I’d bring Alves back in alongside McCrorie, it would be fantastic for his development to play alongside some with the experience Alves has. You’ve took the letters right aff ma keypad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 8 hours ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Seen MvCrorie get on the wrong side of his man a couple of times, giving away a free kick on one occasion. What I don't get is, with our keeper being so bad at free kicks, why don't we have a man on the post at free kicks? It would help a hell of a lot. Lafferty probably wouldn't have scored that freekick if we had a man on that post. At the very least, it would've put him off. He would've had a lot less space to aim for. You put a man on the post for free kicks and the opposition just flood into the box. I tried it at amateur once and 2 players bolted past the wall, someone slipped it through and the cunts scored. i got dropped Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_1 1,136 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 McCrorie and Alves. Alves might learn a thing next to McCrorie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,430 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Cardoso and Wilson would be interesting to see but mccrorie and Alves gets my vote for now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 39 minutes ago, A.T.G said: You put a man on the post for free kicks and the opposition just flood into the box. I tried it at amateur once and 2 players bolted past the wall, someone slipped it through and the cunts scored. i got dropped That's a good point. Man marking, a staggered wall and a decent keeper should be able to handle that though. Its a tough one, but one that should be able to be worked on in training. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said: That's a good point. Man marking, a staggered wall and a decent keeper should be able to handle that though. Its a tough one, but one that should be able to be worked on in training. Maybe, but if you’ve got 4 or 5 in a wall, that doesn’t leave many players left to defend against their 9 that might be in the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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