Gerrard's record at Hibs, Hearts Aberdeen and Kilmarnock

[King Jela 20,461]

2 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said:

Ferencvaros though eh...

 

We wouldn't have got past them either, if thee great Neil Lennon couldn't do it then what chance would we have had, at home? 

[TMB 14,167]

Just now, Dennis Reynolds said:

Ferencvaros though eh...

He has won trophies in part because he works with a team who have undeniably mental weight in their favor which leads to the circumstance in which they win trophies. 

 

When Rodgers walked out celtic had a significant points gap on Rangers.  Lennon's getting the credit for winning that league but the job was already done by Rodgers.  If Gerrard took over celtic at that point he would've wont the league too.  As I said, you need to look at the bigger picture to appreciate what's going on but there's a reluctance to do that on here.  There exists this binary thinking process of 'but one got silverware and the other didn't'.  

Some seem so desperate to get Gerrard out the door that they're actually making Lennon out to be some amazing manager which we all know is bullshit.

[McEwan's Lager 30,632]

3 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

I've just skipped 5 pages of this thread because that was exactly how I was feeling reading some of the replies in it.

[King Jela 20,461]

Just now, TMB said:

When Rodgers walked out celtic had a significant points gap on Rangers.  Lennon's getting the credit for winning that league but the job was already done by Rodgers.  If Gerrard took over celtic at that point he would've wont the league too.  As I said, you need to look at the bigger picture to appreciate what's going on but there's a reluctance to do that on here.  There exists this binary thinking process of 'but one got silverware and the other didn't'.  

Some seem so desperate to get Gerrard out the door that they're actually making Lennon out to be some amazing manager which we all know is bullshit.

Just you hold on a minute there. Lennon single handedly won the league cup with an offside goal, their only shot on 'target' that day and was awarded the league with 9 games to go. That's Pep Guardiola genius right there. He also got further in Eur....oh, never mind. 

[TMB 14,167]

5 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

Don't care if they have a better manager than us

 

celtic don't have a better manager than us.  No matter what happens this season Gerrard will go on to manage down South (on merit not reputation).  This is Lennon's last job as manager at any club.

[McEwan's Lager 30,632]

Just now, TMB said:

When Rodgers walked out celtic had a significant points gap on Rangers.  Lennon's getting the credit for winning that league but the job was already done by Rodgers.  If Gerrard took over celtic at that point he would've wont the league too.  As I said, you need to look at the bigger picture to appreciate what's going on but there's a reluctance to do that on here.  There exists this binary thinking process of 'but one got silverware and the other didn't'.  

Some seem so desperate to get Gerrard out the door that they're actually making Lennon out to be some amazing manager which we all know is bullshit.

No one is making out Lennon to be an amazing manager. Most people here are saying that as limited as Lennon is, Gerrard can't motivate or set his side up well domestically and he isn't learning from his mistakes. If the bar is Neil Lennon, Gerrard isn't even meeting that bar.

[bluenoz 30,972]

Ok, I will jump in on the yella teeth conversation...

He was a shite manager at Bolton & Hibs and got run out by both clubs. He dresses like a tramp on match days. Threatens women. What else?

Give me Steven Gerrard all day long.

[King Jela 20,461]

1 minute ago, McEwan's Lager said:

No one is making out Lennon to be an amazing manager. Most people here are saying that as limited as Lennon is, Gerrard can't motivate or set his side up well domestically and he isn't learning from his mistakes. If the bar is Neil Lennon, Gerrard isn't even meeting that bar.

You just said you've skipped 5 pages of the thread

 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 65,156]

10 minutes ago, King Jela said:

Not particularly, no. Especially since 'who's better?' isn't as straightforward as the question would have you believe. 

Weird guy.

[TMB 14,167]

1 minute ago, King Jela said:

Just you hold on a minute there. Lennon single handedly won the league cup with an offside goal, their only shot on 'target' that day and was awarded the league with 9 games to go. That's Pep Guardiola genius right there. He also got further in Eur....oh, never mind. 

It's a good point.  celtic were eliminated from the Europa by Copenhagen.  Copenhagen are the second best team in Denmark.  The best team in Denmark is Midtjylland who we eliminated in the qualifiers along with the champions of Poland.  We then get to the group stages and get victories over the champions of Portugal and Switzerland.  We also get the better of Feyenoord and Braga.  But we're shit and our manager is a "donkey".

[King Jela 20,461]

Just now, Jeffrey said:

Weird guy.

Uck, day ruined now. 

[McEwan's Lager 30,632]

1 minute ago, King Jela said:

You just said you've skipped 5 pages of the thread

 

I refuse to believe anyone on here is saying Lennon is an amazing manager.

[Malkytfp1 18,618]

3 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

Ok, I will jump in on the yella teeth conversation...

He was a shite manager at Bolton & Hibs and got run out by both clubs. He dresses like a tramp on match days. Threatens women. What else?

Give me Steven Gerrard all day long.

Based on what? His name as a player? How has Gerrard fared up against him so far? What honours does Gerrard have as a manger?

[The Specky Forum Organiser 65,156]

1 minute ago, TMB said:

It's a good point.  celtic were eliminated from the Europa by Copenhagen.  Copenhagen are the second best team in Denmark.  The best team in Denmark is Midtjylland who we eliminated in the qualifiers along with the champions of Poland.  We then get to the group stages and get victories over the champions of Portugal and Switzerland.  We also get the better of Feyenoord and Braga.  But we're shit and our manager is a "donkey".

That is fucking mental  

[King Jela 20,461]

Just now, TMB said:

It's a good point.  celtic were eliminated from the Europa by Copenhagen.  Copenhagen are the second best team in Denmark.  The best team in Denmark is Midtjylland who we eliminated in the qualifiers along with the champions of Poland.  We then get to the group stages and get victories over the champions of Portugal and Switzerland.  We also get the better of Feyenoord and Braga.  But we're shit and our manager is a "donkey".

Aye but, but, but Lennon won 2 leagues ALL by himself. 

Bad days in here when cunts are bigging up Neil fucking Lennon to have a go at the Rangers manager. 

[King Jela 20,461]

Just now, McEwan's Lager said:

I refuse to believe anyone on here is saying Lennon is an amazing manager.

Well, for one, he was soley credited with the 18/19 league season despite an 8 point advantage when he took over. It's all in the thread. 

[King Jela 20,461]

1 minute ago, Jeffrey said:

That is fucking mental  

What's that? 

[TMB 14,167]

3 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

No one is making out Lennon to be an amazing manager. Most people here are saying that as limited as Lennon is, Gerrard can't motivate or set his side up well domestically and he isn't learning from his mistakes. If the bar is Neil Lennon, Gerrard isn't even meeting that bar.

Gerrard is learning from his mistakes though.  He's changed from the more conservative 4-3-3 to a 4-2-3-1 that will allow us to break down 'the block'.  Beale said more physicality was needed since teams are refereed to a different standard domestically so Rangers brought in more recruited players like Bassey, Balogun, and Itten.  The recruitment process hasn't finished, we're going to bring more midfielders in and improve further.

So say Gerrard isn't learning, or adapting, or changing his methods, isn't true.  They've openly spoke about where we fell short and what they're doing to change it.

[King Jela 20,461]

Just now, Rangers_no1 said:

Lennon is world class IMHO.

Should ask for a swap deal with Gerrard tbh.

Is that sarcasm or an impersionation of a random Coatbridge bhoy? 

Only picking Coatbridge cause' its 95% tim, before anybody or anybody's pals get defensive. 

[Malkytfp1 18,618]

Just now, TMB said:

Gerrard is learning from his mistakes though.  He's changed from the more conservative 4-3-3 to a 4-2-3-1 that will allow us to break down 'the block'.  Beale said more physicality was needed since teams are refereed to a different standard domestically so Rangers brought in more recruited players like Bassey, Balogun, and Itten.  The recruitment process hasn't finished, we're going to bring more midfielders in and improve further.

So say Gerrard isn't learning, or adapting, or changing his methods, isn't true.  They've openly spoke about where we fell short and what they're doing to change it.

That's the bit most people will stop reading from. Why you lying?

[G.E.C. 18,862]

Midtjylland and Legia are pish 😂 

[Dennis Reynolds 1,329]

6 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

No one is making out Lennon to be an amazing manager. Most people here are saying that as limited as Lennon is, Gerrard can't motivate or set his side up well domestically and he isn't learning from his mistakes. If the bar is Neil Lennon, Gerrard isn't even meeting that bar.

Because it is mental to measure that with such a small sample size of evidence this year.

People are clinging to tiny sample sizes as way to say "see, look, see I am fucken right about this thing I have drilled in my head" when really... at this stage it is totally up in the air if he has learned or not. 

 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 65,156]

1 minute ago, King Jela said:

What's that? 

Saying they lost to Copenhagen and we beat Midtjylland as if it means anything

[TMB 14,167]

2 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

I refuse to believe anyone on here is saying Lennon is an amazing manager.

In an effort to diminish the talent of our own manager some Rangers fans are now talking up the ability and achievements of Neil Lennon.  Is that more acceptable wording?  

[King Jela 20,461]

Just now, Jeffrey said:

Saying they lost to Copenhagen and we beat Midtjylland as if it means anything

Why doesn't it mean anything?