esquire8 45,282 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: Obviously Graham is doing a shite job and has made a lot of enemies along the way but it's beyond naive to think this wouldn't be happening if he wasn't here Not too sure if all this happens without Graham though there were many gunning for Traynor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 15,391 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, esquire8 said: My opinion is that we will be the only ones "hit". I agree. I think now that there is a heavy political push against our support, any push backs will be batted away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer 11 2,860 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 We need to go on the front foot at every opportunity , starting with the ones at the top , no follow up was ever made about the dubbed sweet Caroline video , we should have taken humza, dornan etc to court for libel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 4,268 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, esquire8 said: I'll predict the club will do nothing of the sort and force Edgar to take the two in question off the podcast indefinitely, if he hasn't done so already. He won’t do that, if the club try to influence what they post Edgar has previously said they would walk away. As much as you could argue he might not, he’s someone who actively campaigned against the club controlling fan groups in the past and has experienced from the RST/RSA days. I doubt he’d sack two of his close friends, he’d be more likely to stand down as an “official media partner” and just keep H&H slightly more distant from the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: I don’t know him, or what he’s like, or if he’s good at his job or not, but that says more about the small minded press in Scotland than anything else. Bitter, biased, outdated and no longer fit for purpose. Tbh, much of it is deserved. He's wildly out his depth and is a joke figure around Scottish football with more than than just the media. I've heard managers and other club officials ripping the piss out of him too. (One or two of whom are well-thought of on here) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I don't know a single filth fan who doesn't use the word "hun" We have to embed the narrative that it is anti-Protestant sectarianism, as they have successfully managed with the word "fenian" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 45,282 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, psb07158 said: I don't know a single filth fan who doesn't use the word "hun" We have to embed the narrative that it is anti-Protestant sectarianism, as they have successfully managed with the word "fenian" Next to impossible with zero support from government and media. No problem if they both had a balanced view but as we all know they don't. Sectarianism is a term that's dying on its arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineBlue 25,754 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: There's going to be some amount of collateral on both sides over the coming days I think Hope the people who started this were prepared for that... We'll need to shout twice as loud to cause half as much collateral damage. Starting with Natasha Meikle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,899 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 30 minutes ago, The Dude said: They had to wait for sectarianism to be the topic of the day for maximum effect. Wouldn't hit quite the same if we were talking about actual racism so once the polis started chapping on doors over the famine song stuff the H&H dodgy tweets' folder got dusted off. DG is getting slaughtered in every press room in every ground in the country. This is all about taking him down. Looks like this is getting you hard Who fucking cares what a shower a tarrier loving cunts think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, RFC55 said: Looks like this is getting you hard Who fucking cares what a shower a tarrier loving cunts think? What the fuck are you slavering on about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,621 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Not too sure if all this happens without Graham though there were many gunning for Traynor. George Square reaction, doctored videos being condemned by senior politicians, the hypocrisy in reporting fans behaviour at the weekend, this story... It's all connected and it isn't because of David Graham. Waken up ffs. 14 minutes ago, tm91 said: Quite, but Graham is a big factor in this event in particular. Combine that with typical arrogance - the press hate that people like Edgar are getting access - and the club's media strategy generally (which was always going to cause a backlash) and the papers are particularly motivated here. That said, I will repeat that we need to be more co-ordinated as a fanbase. The reason this attack is happening now is because it can piggyback off of the longer term, consistent efforts to attack the club. There are people in politics and the media who hate Rangers fans and will keep sticking the boot in whenever they can. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, SkylineBlue said: We'll need to shout twice as loud to cause half as much collateral damage. Starting with Natasha Meikle. Burness Paull is absolutely full of them btw, I'd be shocked if they did anything but the police might Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,899 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: What the fuck are you slavering on about? Yer awfy excited ya mongo. "DG is getting slaughtered in every press room in every ground in the country. This is all about taking him down" Awww hahahaha am itk, a know what goes on in press rooms. Who fucking cares ya galoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineBlue 25,754 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, psb07158 said: I don't know a single filth fan who doesn't use the word "H**" We have to embed the narrative that it is anti-Protestant sectarianism, as they have successfully managed with the word "soap dodgers" They openly use it and openly defend the use of it, claiming its not sectarian and doesn't mean Protestant, despite charities like Nil By Mouth, Judges and the Scottish Government themselves confirming that it is. This is part of their attempt to control the narrative: change the language to " anti-irish racism" and then try to take the poison out of the bigoted language that they use. I've also seen some of them start to peddle the "oppressor/oppressed" narrative that we've seen become popular amongst histrionic, blue haired social justice types. I think we're going to see a lot more of that. I don't give a fuck about religion or politics when it comes to football, but I do care about our club and it feels like we've had war declared upon us with over inflated sectarianism being the vehicle of choice. We need to start causing a scene. If an independent podcast isn't fit to be affiliated with Rangers because of sectarian language years ago, why is Paul Sweeney fit to be an MSP and sit in the Scottish Government when he used sectarian language years ago? They'll ignore and dismiss it, but we need to drop nothing. Like a dog with a massive fucking bone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Who is David Graham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, RFC55 said: Yer awfy excited ya mongo. "DG is getting slaughtered in every press room in every ground in the country. This is all about taking him down" Awww hahahaha am itk, a know what goes on in press rooms. Who fucking cares ya galoot. Which bit is me being excited? God forbid I pass on stuff I've seen and heard when it's relevant to the thread because it makes me appear "itk". Seriously though mate, if you don't care don't read it or put me on ignore and then you don't have to see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, j1mgg said: Who is David Graham? Rangers comms director. Ex H&H podder, DUP councillor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,899 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Which bit is me being excited? God forbid I pass on stuff I've seen and heard when it's relevant to the thread because it makes me appear "itk". Seriously though mate, if you don't care don't read it or put me on ignore and then you don't have to see it. Think I will but when people quote you, it's still visible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,899 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, j1mgg said: Who is David Graham? The guy when he was appointed SMSM had an issue with as he's an Orangeman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineBlue 25,754 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Burness Paull is absolutely full of them btw, I'd be shocked if they did anything but the police might We'll find out soon. I'm calling then after my toast and boiled eggs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,899 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, SkylineBlue said: We'll find out soon. I'm calling then after my toast and boiled eggs. I've missed the tweet you're reporting mate, what is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, RFC55 said: Think I will but when people quote you, it's still visible Ah well, you'll just have to scroll by them then, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,756 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, SkylineBlue said: We'll find out soon. I'm calling then after my toast and boiled eggs. Big decision mate…..soft or hard boiled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 77,603 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, SkylineBlue said: We'll find out soon. I'm calling then after my toast and boiled eggs. Soldiers and the police in the same morning. Hardcore stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 So people are now fighting personal tit for tat battles by ruining other people lives, this country is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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