JamieD 20,061 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, ritchieshearercaldow said: Embarrassing decision makes you wonder if the refs at it again Genuine question, which law of the game was misapplied? Dumfries kicked him (studs up, no less) while the ball was in play. Do the rules say if you've got your shot off it's not a penalty? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJacketRFC 7,647 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Ian Wright talks some amount of jobby CXB and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,724 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 There was absolutely no calling for it from the commentators at the time. If it hadn't been given very few people would be talking about it. HG5 and BlueJacketRFC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 63,548 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Christina will be cleaning the strips the night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,724 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, JamieD said: Genuine question, which law of the game was misapplied? Dumfries kicked him (studs up, no less) while the ball was in play. Do the rules say if you've got your shot off it's not a penalty? Kane kicked him. psb07158, Rangers_no1, BlueJacketRFC and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,065 Posted July 10 Author Share Posted July 10 3 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: Don't see how you can call the majority opinion madness. It's obviously debatable. When the majority includes people like @Rangers_no1Ā and @SkylineBlueĀ then the majority are wrong Rangers_no1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,061 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: Kane kicked him. Kane kicked the ball. Surely the fundamental rule of the game has to be that the player who plays the ball has the advantage? It's shit, but seems an honest application of a bad rule. Once it goes to VAR, what's the ref supposed to do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,878 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Not buying this whole Kane kicks him chat tbh. If you pause the clip at when Kane contacts the ball, the Dutch player's foot travels further until he contacts Kane, than Kane's foot travels to contact the defender. It's definitely 'more' of a kick from the defender and he's the one also with his studs up, too. Not to mention Kane is the one who got to the ball first and is classed as the one being in control and as such the onus is on the defender not to impede. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 34,792 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 minutes ago, JamieD said: Genuine question, which law of the game was misapplied? Dumfries kicked him (studs up, no less) while the ball was in play. Do the rules say if you've got your shot off it's not a penalty? Dumfries didn't kick him š¤£ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,878 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, JamieD said: Kane kicked the ball. Surely the fundamental rule of the game has to be that the player who plays the ball has the advantage? It's shit, but seems an honest application of a bad rule. Once it goes to VAR, what's the ref supposed to do? Indeed.Ā People forgetting this.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,724 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, JamieD said: Kane kicked the ball. Surely the fundamental rule of the game has to be that the player who plays the ball has the advantage? It's shit, but seems an honest application of a bad rule. Once it goes to VAR, what's the ref supposed to do? Play on with a goal kick because it's not a clear and obvious error. GA1972, Waggy1872 and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 63,548 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 A fat unfit Shaw must be better than Trippier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,094 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 9 minutes ago, HG5 said: Just as long as Spain donāt go one up, then revert to that mind-numbing walking football that they do. Aye, it gets boring after 100 passes and 50 Oles. France went for it though. Why risk it when you are winning? Brilliant first half from Spain though. Ā HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineBlue 25,836 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: When the majority includes people like @Rangers_no1Ā and @SkylineBlueĀ then the majority are wrong Ā ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottywellhousetb 52,608 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 I thought it was a penalty but I'm not arsed in the slightest who wins tbh,I've patched the second half to go to bed, no doubt I'll hear from downstairs and the neighbours down here what's happening.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,061 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: Play on with a goal kick because it's not a clear and obvious error. I can agree with this, but I'm not sure how it works with VAR, is it the VAR team or the ref who decides whether it's a clear and obvious error? If the former, what's the ref supposed to do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyBlue 17,686 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 That John hunt thing is rough, poor bastard manĀ Redemption80 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 34,792 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, JamieD said: I can agree with this, but I'm not sure how it works with VAR, is it the VAR team or the ref who decides whether it's a clear and obvious error? If the former, what's the ref supposed to do? Its the VAR who advise the ref to look at the incident. The ref can stick with the original decision. Drunk and disorderly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,878 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, JamieD said: I can agree with this, but I'm not sure how it works with VAR, is it the VAR team or the ref who decides whether it's a clear and obvious error? If the former, what's the ref supposed to do? It's the VAR team. Believe at the point the ref looks at the monitor the clear and obvious criteria is out the window. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,094 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 minutes ago, Scottywellhousetb said: I thought it was a penalty but I'm not arsed in the slightest who wins tbh,I've patched the second half to go to bed, no doubt I'll hear from downstairs and the neighbours down here what's happening.Ā Part timer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Atheist 194 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Kane has literally been walking around for about half an hour. Get someone else on!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumloyal 15,614 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, MattyBlue said: That John hunt thing is rough, poor bastard manĀ Aye, fucking terrible.Ā Was just reading that they've caught the wee fucking rat cunt now. MattyBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 12,310 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, JamieD said: I can agree with this, but I'm not sure how it works with VAR, is it the VAR team or the ref who decides whether it's a clear and obvious error? If the former, what's the ref supposed to do? As weāve seen, to our detriment, the VAR spots something and suggests the ref goes to the screen. Itās then up to the ref as to go with what VAR flags up, or stick with his original take. Again, as weāve seen, it seems very hard for them to stick with their original call once the idea they missed something is put in their minds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,094 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, Rangers_no1 said: Its the VAR who advise the ref to look at the incident. The ref can stick with the original decision. Indeed. The ref has the ultimate decision. Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,094 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Excited to see who Spain beat in the final btw! Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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