LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Getstiffed said: That us getting pumped by them again is it. How'd that work out last time again? It worked out with us putting in one of our best performances of the season, arguably our best overall, and still failing to beat a poor Celtic team over 90 mins and having to rely on the lottery of penalties. They've improved now, and we don't have penalties to bail us out this time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,707 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: Out of interest, what's your views on tonght's match? He can't hear you with his head buried in the sand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7troop 187 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Manager getting it wrong with team selections and tactics. We have better players but other teams have better organisation and tactics. Add in our inability to keep a clean sheet and we are fucked. Our defence is still as bad but it's the midfield imbalance and lack of incisiveness which is the biggest problem. Things better change or this is going to turn bad real quick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, theclothmonster said: He can't hear you with his head buried in the sand. I'm generally really positive, and I find it difficult to be critical of us. It hurts me to do it and I try my best not to be too critical and take a step back and look at the overall picture. Being critical doesn't sit easy with me but you can be constructive without saying fuck him, fuck that, sack him and so on and so forth. I'm sure i'm not the only one who feels that way. It's fucking hard. It really is. However, it's good to have healthy debate between us all without always needing to agree with each other. I don't see how anyone however could view that performance, and our performances of late though without being concerned. The optimist in me still believes we can and will win the league but the evidence so far has been fairly damning to the contrary. If we were to win the league, it's not a case of some saying "I told you so" as the reality is that the performances that have gone before have not been good enough regardless of whether we win the league or not....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 22 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: Out of interest, what's your views on tonght's match? They'll be the same as his views on Ally....wonderful Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlearyEyedBear 4,148 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Forrester had a stinker, Miller has lost that extra yard of pace and we're poor at the back (nothing new there). Four points dropped in four games, not good enough...and I'm starting to worry about our trip across the city in a fortnight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniemca 479 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: I'm generally really positive, and I find it difficult to be critical of us. It hurts me to do it and I try my best not to be too critical and take a step back and look at the overall picture. Being critical doesn't sit easy with me but you can be constructive without saying fuck him, fuck that, sack him and so on and so forth. I'm sure i'm not the only one who feels that way. It's fucking hard. It really is. However, it's good to have healthy debate between us all without always needing to agree with each other. I don't see how anyone however could view that performance, and our performances of late though without being concerned. The optimist in me still believes we can and will win the league but the evidence so far has been fairly damning to the contrary. If we were to win the league, it's not a case of some saying "I told you so" as the reality is that the performances that have gone before have not been good enough regardless of whether we win the league or not....... Nothing wrong with criticism at all .the problem on here is some people were completely unrealistic in the way they looked at this season.We are never anywhere near winning the league and will do well to finish in the top 3 imo.so please guy's stop with all the ridiculous predictions and get behind the team.We have a long journey ahead Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,707 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I haven't said anywhere, at anytime "fuck him, fuck that and sack him". I'm not going to sit here and just blindly ignore the weaknesses that have been glaringly obvious to everyone but the management team. I'm actually supportive of the 4-3-3 system and the way he wants us to play the game. I expected us to build on last season with new players brought in to both compliment the system and shore up the frailties. The problem is that MW seems to have abandoned his own style of play to accomodate certain players. Trying to shoehorn two defensive midfielders into the team has crippled us offensively, then add to that the sheer stubborness to start with Miller its really no wonder we are struggling in the final third. That's before you even look at the baffling decision to sign someone as slow as Hill when your current CB pairing didn't have the pace required to play the high defensive line that MW employs. Last season the problems were lack of quality in certain positions, this season so far my main worries have been the baffling team selections of MW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnymate1690 625 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Forrester looks the only one that gives a fuck, not saying he played well but at least he's putting in the effort also i've no idea why MOH isnt getting a game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladimirWeiss69 802 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 hour ago, theiconicman said: The squad we have looks like it doesn't fit 4-3-3 probably better with 4-3-2 or 4-4-2 diamond I would honestly consider scrapping the 4-3-3, it is alright if you have quality quick players and defenders that can defend, but if you don't it can be a nightmare, would go with the above, all teams are doing is sitting in and hitting us on the break so I would consider mixing it up a bit, whoever is the defensive coach is doing a shit job, however you can only work with what you got I suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyDave 123 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Feeling disappointed and frustrated by the result the overall performance of most of the players and how we could not get the win against the 10 men.Having two league wins and a draw before the game despite playing below the level we should I was treating as a positive despite the opposition being some of the weaker teams.Injuries to Wilson and Dodoo did not help and we have been unfortunate that some other talents are injured in Waghorn,Holt,Windass and Crooks.I think the referee was as shit as we were and if we played with intensity the referee would not have mattered.I fully expected us to win but after a bright start we faded bad and it is worrying we have to concede soft goals and substitute players to spark players into action. I had hoped when Joe Dodoo went off we would have stuck MOH on rather than moving Miller wide.This is no slight on Garner who is new and will need to gel with our players.I am all for versatility in players but honestly think younger pacey wide players would have been more effective than Miller.We still have a good squad,need a solid defender though and I think Barton will come good also.Rossiter having a quieter game is in part being a younger player playing alongside new teammates who are not performing.The signing of Clint Hill does not look a good one although it is early days still but has had shaky start In theory signing Hill was to bring presence,effort calmness and experience to our defence but it does not look like it has.When Mark Warburton finds the correct balance and most of the players perform as they should we will batter most of our opposition.Gutted we could not exert some early pressure on Celtic by winning these 4 games and building momentum.No surrender spirit needed from the players if opposition raise their game against us or play defensive our job is to raise our level and overcome their tactics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 40 minutes ago, theclothmonster said: I haven't said anywhere, at anytime "fuck him, fuck that and sack him". I'm not going to sit here and just blindly ignore the weaknesses that have been glaringly obvious to everyone but the management team. I'm actually supportive of the 4-3-3 system and the way he wants us to play the game. I expected us to build on last season with new players brought in to both compliment the system and shore up the frailties. The problem is that MW seems to have abandoned his own style of play to accomodate certain players. Trying to shoehorn two defensive midfielders into the team has crippled us offensively, then add to that the sheer stubborness to start with Miller its really no wonder we are struggling in the final third. That's before you even look at the baffling decision to sign someone as slow as Hill when your current CB pairing didn't have the pace required to play the high defensive line that MW employs. Last season the problems were lack of quality in certain positions, this season so far my main worries have been the baffling team selections of MW. For the record, whilst I was responding to your post, the quote you highlighted wasn't aimed at you mate. It was just a generalisation based on some opinions i've seen on social media. ie it's fine to be critical of the team and management, as hard as it may be for some, myself included but one can do it in a constructive way without aggressively slagging all and sundry (although I do appreciate in the immediate aftermath of such a performance it can be rather difficult). I had asked a poster for their views on the game as they seemed to imply everything was fine. I would disagree with this so was interested to hear their thoughts on the game, almost letting them know there's nothing wrong with being critical and one doesn't always have to say we're amazing when our standards have quite clearly slipped. In short, tonight was shite and there wasn't too much to be pleased about Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,528 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Moody Blue said: A team that wouldn't have had 60%+ possession but had hunger and a desire to get the ball forward quickly and get goals And better players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 14,862 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 3 hours ago, theiconicman said: A video which right now makes me so happy yet in a way so sad , choking for days like that to return . Tonight was fucking awfull , you couldn't tell we were actually one man up in the last half an hour , two weeks to get it sorted Rangers and you better do Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Not direct enough, not quick enough and a bombscare at the back. That is not yet as bad as it will get if we don't change things, starting with central defence, if we had any! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 1 hour ago, theclothmonster said: I haven't said anywhere, at anytime "fuck him, fuck that and sack him". I'm not going to sit here and just blindly ignore the weaknesses that have been glaringly obvious to everyone but the management team. I'm actually supportive of the 4-3-3 system and the way he wants us to play the game. I expected us to build on last season with new players brought in to both compliment the system and shore up the frailties. The problem is that MW seems to have abandoned his own style of play to accomodate certain players. Trying to shoehorn two defensive midfielders into the team has crippled us offensively, then add to that the sheer stubborness to start with Miller its really no wonder we are struggling in the final third. That's before you even look at the baffling decision to sign someone as slow as Hill when your current CB pairing didn't have the pace required to play the high defensive line that MW employs. Last season the problems were lack of quality in certain positions, this season so far my main worries have been the baffling team selections of MW. Defence aside, it's crying out for MOH and If I was MOH watching that shite, I'd tell the gaffer to shove it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 2 hours ago, ronniemca said: Nothing wrong with criticism at all .the problem on here is some people were completely unrealistic in the way they looked at this season.We are never anywhere near winning the league and will do well to finish in the top 3 imo.so please guy's stop with all the ridiculous predictions and get behind the team.We have a long journey ahead Didn't you know, King is the messiah and a Ranger's man too BTW! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: Defence aside, it's crying out for MOH and If I was MOH watching that shite, I'd tell the gaffer to shove it. If only, But most of all I like the board to tell Warburton to shove it, he is the biggest problem at Ibrox alongside the board. This is going south, big time and all the bickering is not going to stop the inevitable, the board in their poverty have created an impossible position which will end in tears. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,497 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Tav's goal aside, the only positive was the fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dangerously 7,562 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 6 hours ago, BlearyEyedBear said: Forrester had a stinker, Miller has lost that extra yard of pace and we're poor at the back (nothing new there). Four points dropped in four games, not good enough...and I'm starting to worry about our trip across the city in a fortnight. It's all about opinions I suppose, but I thought forester was our best player. Only let down by couple of shots he should have done better with in 2nd half. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,711 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I thought that McKay had a very poor 1st half, although how Stevie Smith was still on the park at half time was very troubling, since he got booked for a bad tackle, that wasn't as bad a tackle as one earlier, when he booted McKay 6 ft in the air. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlaneloyal 353 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Gutted by our display. We need a couple of players at least if we are going to challenge this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Thewhitesettler said: I thought that McKay had a very poor 1st half, although how Stevie Smith was still on the park at half time was very troubling, since he got booked for a bad tackle, that wasn't as bad a tackle as one earlier, when he booted McKay 6 ft in the air. McKay hasn't kicked his erse this season and needs dropped. He has also lost his bottle, which is worrying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,778 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Shits fuck y'all. 2nd away game and the highlights was having a front row seat to tabs screamer and seeing my mate for the first time since the SC final. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugar_free_pizza 402 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 jesus christ just saw the tackle on barton right on the shin, that could have snapped his leg, its funny in england for the type of tackle you get a 3-5 match suspension, here you get a card and a pat on your back from your mates. pricks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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