Prso's headband 35,446 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 8 hours ago, King Jela said: I asked the question first mate, you have constantly refused to answer and deflected with pointless posts and counter questions to get away from my original question, the definition of deflection. Chase yourself. Lol you’re a genuine weapon btw. Wasn’t me you asked the question too lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,446 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 If we’re being hyper critical, it seems of just one player, why is McGregor not getting stick for not saving the effort? After all he parries it into the net when it’s essentially hit straight at him? Na doesn’t fit the we hate certain players agenda. Aye that’s right cause he isn’t one of the whipping boys who we don’t wait until he makes a mistake to absolutely roast him. Also you can just tell the OP has been sitting on that thread title since Tav cost us a goal against Falkirk 4 year ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 7 hours ago, beararse said: Keeps it simple. Tackles for fun. D’you fail to notice Flanagan’s European performances? I’m also pretty sure the Cowdenbeath game was after a 9 game abscence thro injury. He’d also continuously been playing left back AND McAuley had been drafted in as centre half. If you want to judge him on that then fair enough. I’d rather look at all the Euro and old firm games where he has excelled in his defending. You said he was easily the best RB at defending but you're asking me if i fail to notice his performance in Europe when he's playing at LB? What game's has Flanagan "excelled in his defending" at RB? Also, you say "he'd also continuously been playing left back" - the reason for this, is because he's a LB and Gerrard clearly thinks so as well or he wouldn't have signed a backup RB in Polster. I'm assuming you're now going to tell me there's no difference from playing LB and RB as they're similar positions - well there is and they're not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,905 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, BlueMe said: You said he was easily the best RB at defending but you're asking me if i fail to notice his performance in Europe when he's playing at LB? What game's has Flanagan "excelled in his defending" at RB? Also, you say "he'd also continuously been playing left back" - the reason for this, is because he's a LB and Gerrard clearly thinks so as well or he wouldn't have signed a backup RB in Polster. I'm assuming you're now going to tell me there's no difference from playing LB and RB as they're similar positions - well there is and they're not. Flannigan to replace tav cunts are mad at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 As much as losing to that shower isn’t good cos let’s face it I saw nothing in that team that makes me think they’re better than us, I’m not going to sit here and lambast tavernier. we can list probably 5-6 off the top of my head where he’s made a blunder and they shouldn’t happen but at times and for the majority of the last 18 months he’s been our best attacking player and the amount of penalties he’s stepped up for and scored is really good. strip of the captaincy is far far too harsh, maybe he needs to just to get back to basics as he’s not started this season in good form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, Rfc52 said: Flannigan to replace tav cunts are mad at times Unbelievable mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Tavernier has played 17 games this season, 57 last season, 46 the season before. Before he joined us it was 16 and 28 games at far lower levels. For me, he looks like he's overworked and needs rested more regularly. Same as any other player. With Polster and Flanagan around this shouldn't be so difficult. Yes Tav is important to our attacking system, but not if he's clearly run down, not offering what he has previously, and is costing us at the back. Change the system slightly ie against Hamilton at home and rest him where we can, that's what a squad is for. He's also less of a threat than he was, daft not to acknowledge he has no partnership now like he did so effectively with Candeais, but needs to find a solution to that. I'm not excusing him for his costly mistakes last night, just think there's a bit more to it than saying he's now shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,909 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Flanagan to replace Tav.. That’s enough internet for me today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza 86 0 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Tav must be dropped at the very least. He has now cost us to many points ie first old firm of the session and now in Europe. And for a captain? That’s laughable tbh. If you think I am been to harsh please watch the highlights of the old firm at IBROX. also highlights from last night. He is finished.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siamthedanger 2,855 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Did Grezzie Gredza not start his playing career at right back? Has to be worth a shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 48 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: If we’re being hyper critical, it seems of just one player, why is McGregor not getting stick for not saving the effort? After all he parries it into the net when it’s essentially hit straight at him? Na doesn’t fit the we hate certain players agenda. Aye that’s right cause he isn’t one of the whipping boys who we don’t wait until he makes a mistake to absolutely roast him. Also you can just tell the OP has been sitting on that thread title since Tav cost us a goal against Falkirk 4 year ago Hyper critical? Tav sold the jersey last night. It’s that simple. He deserves every bit of flak coming his way for his capitulation. McGregor was one on one and the odds are against him. Did well to get a hand to it. Can you remember a single howler from McGregor that has cost us a game? He took massive flak when he got sent off last season for being a dick. Thankfully we didn’t concede with McCrorie in goals Anyway. Tav’s capitulation last night doesn’t make him a bad player. He is undoubtedly a great asset going forward. but he has been nowhere near the player he can be this season and needs rested. And he is prone to a gaff and prone to being caught out of position. Jack covers for him constantly. He simply should not be captain. I get why Gerrard did it when he arrived. But we have moved on massively from then and we have better candidates for captain now. He should be thought of in the same terms as Barisic, our first choice full back that needs to stay on his toes or he will be dropped. Give him a rest, give the captaincy to Davis or Jack and bring Tav back in after a couple of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Rfc52 said: It's fucking embarrassing. Hate some of our "support" He fucked up last night but nobody will be hurting more than him I would question that to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 He has fucked up far to many times now. Listen I love him and he offers so much going forward but defending is awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 56 minutes ago, loyalfollower said: As much as losing to that shower isn’t good cos let’s face it I saw nothing in that team that makes me think they’re better than us, I’m not going to sit here and lambast tavernier. we can list probably 5-6 off the top of my head where he’s made a blunder and they shouldn’t happen but at times and for the majority of the last 18 months he’s been our best attacking player and the amount of penalties he’s stepped up for and scored is really good. strip of the captaincy is far far too harsh, maybe he needs to just to get back to basics as he’s not started this season in good form. Also missed penalties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLYBOY50 1,638 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Right this is the thing that frustrates me ok tav made two bad decisions and was at fault for both the goals we conceded. But can someone please explain to me as this has happened on many an occasion why when we have a big game half the team don't fucking turn up it is fucking beyond me.everyone of those players should be giving one hundred percent Every time they pull on the blue jersey not when it suits them. once again on Thursday we had players posted missing in areas all over that pitch and until we see a vast improvement in numbers of our players brining their A game into every game and not just when it suits them we will win fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,782 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Rfc52 said: Flannigan to replace tav cunts are mad at times Happens all the time mate. Players who aren’t in the team become better than they really are. Flanagan is a useful backup player but if he was to start every week we would be in trouble. If Tav isn’t the answer (and I’m not saying he isn’t I’ve always rated him) then we need to sign somebody new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said: Could not wait to put the boot in - mind you it’s what you do best I’m really not interested in a single word you have to say ya nationalist prick. So fuck off and stop quoting me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, kplfishtank said: I seen on Facebook the captain was a cunt, bastard , wanker, prick , useless and no better than Ricky Foster. I kid you not we have the most bipolar support in the world Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BouncyBluenose87 1,559 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Single-handedly fucked us last night. Nobody is to blame for that loss last night except Tavernier. Would expect him to be benched for our next match if he wasn't captain. A shame really, as first half I thought to myself that he looked to be getting back to his best form from last season...second half was a different story and his defending was appalling and nobody else can legislate for his mistakes. They cost us the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,482 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Prso's headband said: If we’re being hyper critical, it seems of just one player, why is McGregor not getting stick for not saving the effort? After all he parries it into the net when it’s essentially hit straight at him? Na doesn’t fit the we hate certain players agenda. Aye that’s right cause he isn’t one of the whipping boys who we don’t wait until he makes a mistake to absolutely roast him. Also you can just tell the OP has been sitting on that thread title since Tav cost us a goal against Falkirk 4 year ago Because for some reason he get’s away with everything and it’s always somebody else fault, granted Tavernier fucked it this time as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,361 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Prso's headband said: Lol you’re a genuine weapon btw. Wasn’t me you asked the question too lol. So his last MOTM performance was against.... help me out here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, GOAT said: I’m really not interested in a single word you have to say ya nationalist prick. So fuck off and stop quoting me. No - such negativity about our players - you get some sort of perverse pleasure out of sticking the boot in and call it ‘support’ - basically you are a hater, not a supporter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,168 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Tav was really poor at both goals and McGregor at the second. But if Helander did his job and didn't ball watch at the first it would probs have been a different result. Three of our five man defence were at fault last night. A team can afford one off form, possibly two, but not three making basic errors. Win as a team, lose as a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,520 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Bakbear said: Hyper critical? Tav sold the jersey last night. It’s that simple. He deserves every bit of flak coming his way for his capitulation. McGregor was one on one and the odds are against him. Did well to get a hand to it. Can you remember a single howler from McGregor that has cost us a game? He took massive flak when he got sent off last season for being a dick. Thankfully we didn’t concede with McCrorie in goals Anyway. Tav’s capitulation last night doesn’t make him a bad player. He is undoubtedly a great asset going forward. but he has been nowhere near the player he can be this season and needs rested. And he is prone to a gaff and prone to being caught out of position. Jack covers for him constantly. He simply should not be captain. I get why Gerrard did it when he arrived. But we have moved on massively from then and we have better candidates for captain now. He should be thought of in the same terms as Barisic, our first choice full back that needs to stay on his toes or he will be dropped. Give him a rest, give the captaincy to Davis or Jack and bring Tav back in after a couple of games. And that is why you can’t take the RM anti-Tav rage seriously... did well to get a hand to it. Killie away in the “Worrall” game, where he fluffed it to let Jones score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: No - such negativity about our players - you get some sort of perverse pleasure out of sticking the boot in and call it ‘support’ - basically you are a hater, not a supporter Come back and see me when you’ve been to as many games as me. Now piss off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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