Do Scottish Referees have a bias towards either half of the Old Firm?

[papaguy51 912]

Given the mass feeling on here that Rangers are constantly shat on by referees decisions going Celtic's way during games, it's time to check out this argument once and for all.

It's time to be impartial. There's absolutley no point in this if we're going to look at it with blue-tinted glasses on, so sense and balance is called for from everyone. If you feel unable to do that, don't post in the thread.

Let's see if there really IS a bias in the refereeing.

SPL Table

Teams.....P.....W.....D.....L.....Pts

Rangers...5......4.....1.......0.....13

Celtic.......5......4.....1.......1......10

Experimental Table

Teams.....P.....W.....D.....L.....Pts

Rangers...5......5.....0.......0......15

Celtic.......5......3.....2.......0......11

Referee Mistakes List

Eddie Smith = 1 (+Celtic) -- Wrongly given penalty/red card v. St. Mirren

Charlie Richmond = 1 (+Celtic) -- Denies Dundee Utd a blatant penalty (Foul).

Stuart Dougal = 1 (+Rangers) -- Questionable decision over a handball. Unintentional by Bougherra, but they have been given.

Billy Baxter (Linesman) = 1 (-Rangers) -- Goal wrongly denied for offside.

Ian Brines = 1 (+Celtic) -- McManus handballs into the net, goal stands.

Disclaimer

I have no certain opinion as yet, this is solely an experiment to see if there is this proposed bias within Scottish officiating.

We'll keep a tab on everything, update it weekly and let you make your own mind up.

Everything will be done fairly, I guarantee it.

[kplfishtank 4,656]

yes i think the old firm get more breaks than the other teams

[JRodgA2k8 542]

Good idea tbh!

[Whitdaeyemean 0]

Some players reckon they do

[papaguy51 912]

Ok, that's us sorted.

First game of the season and we should already be two points clear.

Are we all happy with this?

[tommy2212 151]

good idea papaguy51

[BCLoyal9 53]

Happy enough with the conclusions drawn , can we make this a sticky?

EDIT : Sorted!

[blueben_d 40]

The League of Justice, I like this idea

We need to be objective about decisions though - no blue tinted specs

[Canadaready 9,437]

Keep this up. Keep a list of the wrong decisions as well.

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

Well that is wierd - I came on to start this topic - but beaten to it - great idea (obviously!)

[Canadaready 9,437]

Well that is wierd - I came on to start this topic - but beaten to it - great idea (obviously!)

It is about time someone thought of this lol

[Speuan 1]

Can we put this down to some kind of vote for each decision being allowed into the table, probably a 65/35 majority to take away from the blue tinted specs bias...

[papaguy51 912]

Can we put this down to some kind of vote for each decision being allowed into the table, probably a 65/35 majority to take away from the blue tinted specs bias...

Don't worry, we'll be honest!

[Wreckedroy 33]

I don't see how this can work, because as Bears we have a natural bias towards Rangers. Therefore that bias will taint any results given. Waste of time and effort IMO. This is more like something the paranoid mob that follow sellick would do.

[Canadaready 9,437]

I am sure when we get a break we can all be smart enough to admin it.

[BlueIsTheColour 35]

I don't see how this can work, because as Bears we have a natural bias towards Rangers. Therefore that bias will taint any results given. Waste of time and effort IMO. This is more like something the paranoid mob that follow sellick would do.

I think that is being very unfair on alot of RM posters. We have been quick to recognise when referees have been generous to us in the past, for example the Dundee United game near the end of last season.

We are all biased towards our club but that doesn't mean we cannot recognise when referees make a mistake in our favour.

BTW guys this is a great idea. It is all well and good moaning and groaning about how officials are against us but actually conducting a method of finding out if this is a genuine concern is admirable. Good luck.

[NOLUWDC 1]

how will you count in red cards ?

[Gid 46]

Good idea guys

[kplfishtank 4,656]

i agree with blue is the colour most on hear while fervent rangers fans are also very fair in theyre assessment of any decisions either for or against us

[Coopermania 1]

Overall, its a good idea, and I supported it. It will be interesting for sure.

[papaguy51 912]

how will you count in red cards ?

We'll only count in red cards if they are wrong.

[evenstevens 891]

I like it. A lot.

But we need to make sure every decision is posted just as it is on the first game because we have to be open to scrutiny - I'd hate debatable decisions to be marked to suit an agenda - and that's not saying anyone does.

It just HAS to be managed and scored fairly or we will look no better than them - if managed correctly this story will spread far and wide. If done poorly with poor blue tinted judgement and bias commentary we'll look like fools.

For that reason, I would like if possible for comments to this thread to be checked by admin before they are posted - this is a world wide forum and we have to ensure what is posted on such a contentious topic is of sufficient quality to ensure we are not embarrassed or ridiculed.

Please.

[papaguy51 912]

I like it. A lot.

But we need to make sure every decision is posted just as it is on the first game because we have to be open to scrutiny - I'd hate debatable decisions to be marked to suit an agenda - and that's not saying anyone does.

It just HAS to be managed and scored fairly or we will look no better than them - if managed correctly this story will spread far and wide. If done poorly with poor blue tinted judgement and bias commentary we'll look like fools.

For that reason, I would like if possible for comments to this thread to be checked by admin before they are posted - this is a world wide forum and we have to ensure what is posted on such a contentious topic is of sufficient quality to ensure we are not embarrassed or ridiculed.

Please.

Of course, I agree totally.

Bias won't happen, I'm one of the most unbias Gers fans you'll meet and so are the other lads that agreed to this.

[CooperSF 5,792]

I'm defo in mate

Do we have weekly meetings?

[evenstevens 891]

I like it. A lot.

But we need to make sure every decision is posted just as it is on the first game because we have to be open to scrutiny - I'd hate debatable decisions to be marked to suit an agenda - and that's not saying anyone does.

It just HAS to be managed and scored fairly or we will look no better than them - if managed correctly this story will spread far and wide. If done poorly with poor blue tinted judgement and bias commentary we'll look like fools.

For that reason, I would like if possible for comments to this thread to be checked by admin before they are posted - this is a world wide forum and we have to ensure what is posted on such a contentious topic is of sufficient quality to ensure we are not embarrassed or ridiculed.

Please.

Of course, I agree totally.

Bias won't happen, I'm one of the most unbias Gers fans you'll meet and so are the other lads that agreed to this.

I know that. What I don't want is a 476 page long (by October) emotionally charged thread discussing the merits of every decision taken. We need to cut this down to the absolute minimum and not allow it to be populated by views from every member. It flies in the face of what RM is about, but this is a unique experiment and one that has to be carried out with the minimum of fuss

This thread can't be allowed to become tainted by emotion and needs to be pre mod.