Bakbear

I think Scott Brown was over priced before, but his recent display for Scotland may inflate his value even more, after this rhetoric from John Collins I doubt we will see him in a Rangers Shirt... He will be going for over 4 million and we won't splash that cash http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/football.cfm?id=493132007

I sincerely hope I am proved wrong but this guy has never looked like a footballer any time I have seen him. He is woeful. He may be strong, fit and full of running but I have seen no evidence so far that he is any kind of football player. I am at a loss why he seems to get cut so much slack from our fans when other players are so readily lambasted...

I am no fan of Sebo but I am also no fan of the one up front tactics. It seems this is becoming a favourite and if its a straight choice then I would chose Sebo because its a system that doesn't suit Boyd and needs a hard worker. I don't think we should ever play one up front, IMO 4-4-2 is the best formation in football

Hemdani, not only because he has been utterly dependable on the pitch but also because he was the model of professionalism during the PLG/Bazza and Scottish/Foreigner debacle. Just kept his head down and got on with the job in hand. He may not have hit the heights of Fergie but he has been completely consistent and this season its been very rare to hear, "Hemdani had a shocker"

I said it earlier in the thread and will say it again, the standard of player PLG brought in was worse than any previous manager, even the ginger genius brought a couple of decent signings... PLG bought absolutley terribly. Sebo for 1.8 million may very well be the worst signing EVER. Sionko, Ponroy, Stanger, Letizi, Papac, Svensson, Clement, Bardsley and that other Man U winger whose name escapes me.... THAT was our future??? Also getting rid of Barry Ferguson and marginalising Kris Boyd and chasing out Chris Burke? To say we almost beat Celtic if it wasn't for Boruc is just a silly statement, we got beat off the weaker teams, we got knocked out of both domestic cups by lesser teams.... like Scotland under Vogts there was no indication that we were improving at any stage and PLG knew it and lost his bottle and decided to get out while he still had a reputation worth saving.... Unfortunately the PLG tenure was disastrous by anyones definition and it was ended not before time. I was very optimistic about what he was going to achieve, I laid out 500 quid on Rangers winning the league this season under PLG, I wanted him to succeed as much as anyone... he didn't... its over.. its history.. It was 3 months ago, we have a new manager and he has brought stability to the club and given us a wee bit of pride back... Can't we just consign PLG's dark reign to history and move on???

you are agaij correct, but last night exposed what we knew. This team will need major investment Yes the team needs major reinvestment and I can only thank the heavens that it is not PLG being asked to decide where that investment goes. I understand why there are those that feel he wasn't given a fair crack of the whip but just looking at every last one of his signings should be enough to be thankful that he is no longer leading us. Of all the bad memories PLG gave us the players he thought were good enough to play for Rangers must be the most glaring evidence of his misjudgement. He is gone, its a good thing, can we just get over it..

£5 million.... I think we are in the realms of fantasy???? I don't know anything about David Nugent but blowing what is likely to be our entire budget on one young striker would appear to be a gamble? Or is Murray going to dust off the chequebook? I doubt it

controversial I think AH hits the nail on the head. I don't think there has been any secret of the hostility Boyd held for PLG and I am not surprised at all that he suggested he wouldn't be trying, its not like his game changes much between trying and not trying??? As for BF, if he and PLG hated each other as much as they seemed to then Bazza would always have mixed feelings over both winning and losing. His love of the club would want him to lament a loss while his hatred for PLG would drive him to at least a wry smile that he was struggling?? Nothing new really here but it may be a different slant which will enlighten some of Barry and Boydy's fans to realise the halos may have slipped a tad

I can't believe we will get through the next 5 games undefeated so I have guessed Win Win Draw Lose Win I think we will do well to get a draw at Parkhead and I think we will hold on against Osasuna to go through but only on the back of a result at Ibrox. 2-0 win at Ibrox, 0-1 over there

I am Living In Baku Azerbaijan... although possibly not for much longer... any move will be to another overseas destination possibly Dubai

I have to say the whole interview was all very gay sounding..... not that there is anything wrong with that... but are they???

I also hurt when we lose... or even draw with teams like Falkirk...been hurting alot this season

Second best midfielder in Britain apparently? Yes...it must be true as over 50% of barrymedia posters voted so Thats not fair, he was only second best because their was no option in there for "No, he is better than Gerrard"

Good post, the highlighted part in particular. This was maybe my main point but it seems to be missed a little so far. How do you feel about supporters saying that other supporters are not fans if they do or dont do certain things or have a differing point of view? In answer to your question I am not defined by what other fans/supporters think about me. I define myself. I call myself a Rangers supporter despite only having attended around 20 games in my life due to my personal circumstances. I really don't care what other peoples definition of a supporter is. I always follow Rangers, I was given a Rangers strip as a 3 year old and never waivered in my following of the team since. I watch as many games as I can on the TV, I purchase the jersey when I can and if I am ever asked which team I support I say Rangers. However, Football is not my "be all and end all" and while I respect other peoples right to treat Rangers as their number 1 priority, I have other priorities. If someone asked me the question "define yourself" then Rangers probably would not come into my personal definition. Also I am not religious, but I respect all religions and peoples right to follow them, actually I am quite fascinated by religion and the anthropological side of it. I am not a royalist but I think the Union is valuable to Scotland. I think the Irish are great people and have had a number of Irish girlfriends and still have many Irish friends, Frankly though I think Religion and Politics are completely irrelevant to my support of my football team. I know others commit much more of their life to Rangers as an institution and thank goodness they do, I acknowledge that if every "supporter" was the same as me the club would be in a sad state. I am grateful to all the die hard supporters that attend the games every week and pay their hard earned coin to keep the club alive. There are many "better" fans than me and I am ok with that.

Do you think there is an element of mind games being played here? I don't necessarily disagree with this guys comments but perhaps he learned from the Israelies giving us pelters and then seeing the reaction that provoked he has decided to just butter us up??? I mean he is saying Novo could play in a top Spanish team and Kris Boyd is very good at holding the ball up???

What is David saying though? That any faith besides his own will lead to damnation of the soul? Admittedly I've not read the whole thing, so could someone clarify the remark. On the surface, the mockery and insult of other faiths is surely against the doctrine of respect for one another? So, someone come in and clear this one up for me please. My interpretation of what DS said is not a biggotted one. All I understand from his statement is that if you are a Protestant then the view is that Catholics are going to hell?? If you are a Catholic then you think that protestants are going to hell. Its a little quirk of following one religion that the ones you do not follow assume that you are damned. Of course the fact the Catholics and Protestants are essentially the same religion namley Christianity only makes the whole thing more ridiculous and the fact that three of the major religions that are involved in todays religious wars actually worship the same God (Islam, Christianity and Judaism) Just to further the controversy, I believe religion to be nothing more than control of the populace through fables and stories. Albeit they have good intentions and indeed have worked very well at suppressing the hoi polloi down the ages and giving them the best moral guidance of the era, I think religion has had its time and that other methods of controlling the populace are taking shape. I think we will rue the day that the new methods take over the old completely as they seem primarily based on fear. Fear through first the cold war and nuclear armaggeddon and latterly fear through the constant threat of terrorism. Mind you religion was also based on "the fear of God" so really not much changes However I am WAAAYYY of topic of a Rangers Football Club Forum. Hatred of any form has no place in a football stadium religious, racial, sexist or any other denomination.....it is, after all, just a game.....

Excellent post, I was starting to lose faith for a minute there as I read through all our own fans tearing our own players to shreds?? WTF is that all about. At this stage we should be getting behind all our players, particularly the ones we seem to be derisory about in this thread. Stevie Smith in particular was one of the highlights of PLG's short reign, ever present for ages and never let the team down. Allan McGregor may have his deficiencies but he made the goalkeeping slot his own despite PLG bringing in his own man and making it clear his initial preference, ffs McGregor won player of the month in November didn't he? He has also saved us many many times with some very good saves. Hutton has had his detractors and I have been one of them but he always gives 100% and has improved dramatically this season and particularly in the last few weeks. I honestly felt like I was on the wrong forum when I was reading through the first dozen posts, it easily could have been a Celtic forum having a good go at Rangers deficiencies. In these dark times if we can jump on a few good performances and hold them up as examples for others in the team and if we can encourage our players by highlighting their positives rather than their negatives then I think we should grab the opportunity rather than labelling it as over-rating sub-standard players. Just my opinion of course

I don't get to see much of the scottish game and when I do watch its only Rangers. Is Gow any good, was he good before Anthoiy Stokes was on loan? Is it possibvle that Stokes made him look better than he was? All genuine questions as I really have never seen him play

Richard Gough won 9 titles, 3 Scottish Cups and 6 League Cups during his time at Rangers. There was one treble in 92-93. Cheers, so I wasn't too far off the mark then...

Oh and I think I got some of my facts wrong but I was ranting so I think I can be forgiven, Denmark didn't win the European Championships in 1990 but in 1992 and I was taking most of the Stats from Wikipedia so there may be some errors in number of appearances etc. but the overall point was that it was a ludicrous comparison supported by lies and pointless statistics... Also did Gough win 9 titles? Was he there for all of them, I seem to recall he was? and how many domestic cup competitions did we win when Gough was playing or us?

The Simple Reply was: -----Original Message----------- And I thought that I could rant!!!!!! Not bad though, all things considered!!

Just Wanted to share a wee e-mail exchange I had with one of my mates out here and see what the reaction. Would prefer it wasn't moved to Old Firm as it is the Gers fans reaction i am interested in. Don't care about the Celtic fans reaction Here it is with the e-mail I received first and my response later: ----- Forwarded Message ---- Sent: Wednesday, 7 February, 2007 1:47:20 PM Subject: Henrik The next time some h**/idiot tries to compare: HENRIK LARSSON (The king) to Brian Laudrup (Jim White's boyfriend - JWB) Shoot them down with some of these facts........... 1. The King won 4 Scottish Titles. Jim White's Boyfriend won 3. 2. The King won 2 Scottish Cups. Jim White's Boyfriend won 1. 3. The King won 4 League Cups. Jim White's Boyfriend won 2. 4. The King scored 2 goals in a UEFA Cup Final. Jim White's Boyfriend never played in a UEFA Cup Final. 5. The King was part of a European Cup winning team. JWB never played in a European Cup Final. 6. The King scored in the Champions League group stages every season he was in them. JWB never scored in the group stages of the Champions League. Not even once. Zero times. 7. The King won 2 Spanish League titles. JWB lasted 2 Premiership games before quitting. 8. The King scored 242 goals in Scotland. JWB never even got out of double figures. 9. The King won every available honour/award a footballer can win in Scotland. JWB did not. 10. The King won the European Golden Boot. JWB did not. 11. The King is Britain's top European goalscorer. JWB is not even in the top 150. 12. The King was voted Sweden's greatest EVER player, ahead of Llundberg, Ibrahimovic etc. JWB was not even in Denmark's top 5 ever. He finished below Erik Bo Anderson. 13. The King scored goals in World Cup 1994, World Cup 2002, World Cup 2006 as well as Euro 2000 and Euro 2004. JWB never ever ever scored in an international tournament. Not even once. Zero times. 14. The King had a national campaign in Spain to get him to stay on at Barcalona. JWB admits in his own words on his Scottish club's website that he was a failure in Germany and England and that Italian football was not for him. WE ALL agree with him. 15. The King was awarded an MBE in Britain. JWB was not. 16. The King was voted the greatest ever foreigner in Scotland by the Scottish press. JWB was not. 17. The King is about to turn 34 and had the biggest club in Europe Barcelona, begged him to stay. Now he'[s playing for Man Utd!!! JWB was finished at 30. 29 actually, but he came out of 'retirement' at 30 to play with amateurs in Denmark for 2 months. That was nice of him. Now, watch 120,000 Barcalona fans and players chant the name of "The King" and watch Ronaldinho try to persuade him to stay in his farewell presentation..... enjoy........watching him continue his magnificent career with Man Utd Hail Hail ----- Replied Message ---- Sent: Thursday, 15 February, 2007 11:47:20 AM Subject: RE: Henrik He he.. painful really... Deep Breath Laudrup played 133 games for Rangers as opposed to Larssons 221. So hardly valid comparing the number of trophies considering their duration in Scottish football was different. However if you were to work out the ratio of trophies to appearances then Laudrup comes out on top. Richard Gough for example played 294 games for Rangers and won 9 titles (in a row apparently) as well as numerous other trophies. Shall we compare King Richard with "King" Henrik??? Larsson was part of a European cup winning team after leaving your club, in fact in the same team as one of our ex-players Gio Van Bronckhurst, who ... for the record.. played only 77 games for Rangers, almost a third of Henrik Larssons total for Celtic yet bagged 2 league victories and 3 domestic cups again, ratio wise, a better games to trophies ratio (Henrik got a trophy for every 27.7 games he played, Gio got one every 15.4 and Laudrup one every 22.4). None-the -less comparing records of players before arriving or after leaving your own is clutching at straws, Rino Gattuso, world cup winner, Stefan Klos European cup winner, Stephane Guivarch ffs won a world cup Henrik Larsson's position is Striker, Brian Laudrup's position was Attacking Midfielder. To compare goal scoring stats is juvenile at best. There are also other clearly erroneous statements in there like JWB was not even in Denmark's top 5 ever. He finished below Erik Bo Anderson. What utter clap trap, The Laudrup brothers are widely acknowledged as the best players Denmark has ever produced, competing with the likes of Schmeichel and John Dahl Tomasson and Brian Laudrup was actually voted 5th best player in the world in 1992 although he did lose out to brother Michael in Denmarks best ever. Eric Bo Andersen is a plumber who never even registered in a Danish vote The King won every available honour/award a footballer can win in Scotland. JWB did not. The awards in Scottish football presumabely meaning players player of the year and writers player of the year, both of which Laudrup did actually win JWB never ever ever scored in an international tournament. Not even once. Zero times. Outright fallacy. Laudrup was a major feature of the 1990 European Champion winning side for Denmark. He did not score in "that" tournament however he scored 3 goals in 3 games at Euro 96 despite a misfiring team, he scored in the 1998 World Cup, and scored a goal every 4 games for his country despite NOT BEING A STRIKER Laudrup retired early in his career after realising that to leave Rangers is to step down whereas Larsson has realised that after Celtic the only way is up Henrik Larsson, one of the finest talents ever to grace any football field, one of the true Greats to have played in Scotland specifically, a player with only 7% body fat at the age of 34 and plying his trade at the very top. A truely professional footballer and also a decent man and you monkeys tarnish his name by spouting this pish. A pointless effort at one upmanship supported by lies and irrelevant statistics. Laudrup was a Rangers great, Henrik was a Celtic great whats the problem? Why does there need to be a comparison? What is missing in these knuckle draggers sad existence that drives them to prove anything? and Breathe..... rant over Cheers

the fish gets kicks out of winding ppl up ergo. best way to deal with it is to not get wound up??? Cany believe i just used the word "ergo"

Solid enough start but we look a little nervy at the back. Novo almost scored with a header. cheers mate

So how has it gone first 15 minutes? No access over here means am relying on you guys to let me know how its going... the Live Text on the BBC website is not good enough