the cry was no

I see a parallel between Walter/Souness and Gerrard/Beale
Time will tell but my gut tells me that Gerrard will fade out of management and into media even quicker than Souness did. Big name players don't always make great managers. 
Most people were surprised when Walter got promoted when Souness left and the rest is history.
Souness has since lauded Walter as the brains and the man manager. Like Gerrard, Souness attracted some players through his status (Souness moreso as we were shopping in the top end back then)
Like players in our price range, none of the managers come without risk
He knows the players, they know and like him (unlike Gio?) he knows the club, he knows the league and he obviously loves the club enough to come here having turned down a EPL club in recent weeks
We have good players, what we need is a manager who can get the best out of them and get us playing as a team with a recognisable style

His League results have been nowhere near good enough.
Sentiment doesn't come into it for me.

Not reading back so apologies if already discussed
I'm of the opinion that we have the players with more than enough to win in Scotland but 3 things have killed us and Gio
Injuries have been horrific but not withstanding that..,, Our playing style under Gio was dreadful, predictable and, therefor, easy to play against Our fitness and stamina has fallen off a cliff which is incredible considering where both were at last season Point one will hopefully start to ease, point 3 is needing addressed urgently and that then allows point 2 to be addressed
With better players back available and everyone with improved stamina and fitness, I'd personally love to see us adopt a high tempo, high energy attacking game as that would win almost every time in domestic football. We truly are in a two horse race and give them an advantage due to our style of play.
Dyche would solve 1 and 3 but I'm not convinced he'd solve the playing style
I'd love to see Bielsa if we could sort the money side of things.

He's won the Dutch 2nd division in 20+ years managing
No idea why he gets the jobs he's been getting

You can’t want players to be positive and look forwards all the time then castigate them for giving the ball away. The problem is when there’s then a catalogue of errors that compound the unsuccessful pass.

18 months playing to the level he's capable of and Lowry becomes our biggest asset, possibly even surpassing Bassey's fee
He needs to focus 100% on his career and in return we need to give him the stage to perform
Most gifted young talent since Ian Durrant

Some people just want to always find the worst in our youngsters.

18 months playing to the level he's capable of and Lowry becomes our biggest asset, possibly even surpassing Bassey's fee
He needs to focus 100% on his career and in return we need to give him the stage to perform
Most gifted young talent since Ian Durrant

We were out of the LC before Gio?

Gerrard, like the board a couple of years previously, inherited a mess that was a long distance behind a club who had a free ride to league titles and subsequent access to CL money (it's almost as if it was manufactured and facilitated )
They had time and space to build a successful player trading model which still allows them a financial advantage to this day.
The gap however is small and success can and will swing back and forth again to the pattern we saw in the first 12 years of the millennium 

We were out of the LC before Gio?

Gerrard, like the board a couple of years previously, inherited a mess that was a long distance behind a club who had a free ride to league titles and subsequent access to CL money (it's almost as if it was manufactured and facilitated )
They had time and space to build a successful player trading model which still allows them a financial advantage to this day.
The gap however is small and success can and will swing back and forth again to the pattern we saw in the first 12 years of the millennium 

We were out of the LC before Gio?

You can add England and Belgium to that. Then there's Turkey and Portugal (and Russia pre war)
I'm sure we were highly interested in Veerman, Simmons, Doekhi and Skov Olsen but they chose PSV x2, Union Berlin and Brugge.
 

You can add England and Belgium to that. Then there's Turkey and Portugal (and Russia pre war)
I'm sure we were highly interested in Veerman, Simmons, Doekhi and Skov Olsen but they chose PSV x2, Union Berlin and Brugge.
 

Was hoping this nonsense wouldn’t be bumped, it went hours without a reply.
Never thought anyone watching on tv can have a real opinion on atmospheres tbh

Gio, Wilson and the board have shown a real naivety.
The days of say a Larsson joining one of the old firm. And staying for 5+ seasons is over.
We brought in a lot of quality young players 3-5 seasons ago. Who a) were at inferior clubs and/or leagues b) were on lower wages c) hadn’t won anything. 
 
They joined hungry, wanting to improve, prove themselves and win things. 
So then 5 years later we finally win the league and get to a European final. Kent, Morelos, Kamara aren’t boyhood fans. They get 4 old firm games, a cup final and a few europa league runs if we’re lucky. Their agent is telling them they can go to a bigger league and earn 50% more.
It’s not rocket science to understand that they aren’t going to be as motivated. 
It’s a tough pill to swallow but a competent board and manager would have identified the players whose heads have turned and moved these guys on and began the rebuild in Summer. Ironically Bassey is probably one who still hat the attitude, was young enough and hadn’t been here long enough. That he would have continued to improve.
You saw it with celtic. Sinclair, Edouard, Ntcham etc. Once they’ve won the league a few times. Then their performances fell off a cliff.They don’t care to be playing Ross county away. When they could be in the premier league earning 50% more. 
It’s a different story if the player is a boyhood fan. You still see the occasional McGregor who will stick around when he could probably have made a move.
It’s just so naive to sit here and wonder why they’re all playing crap and not signing new contracts. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

This looks to be the case
In terms of the new UEFA Financial Sustainability rules it would make more sense to include the total sales figure, unless I'm missing something (very possible)
Maybe the structure of our deal doesn't allow for this but if we have a poor Euro season it could be important
The new regulations will see clubs subject to squad cost controls for the first time. The cost control rule restricts spending on player and coach wages, transfers, and agent fees to 70% of club revenues. (The gradual implementation will see the percentage at 90% in 2023/2024, 80% in 2024/2025, and 70% in 2025/2026). This requirement provides a direct measure between squad costs and income to encourage more performance-related costs and to limit the market inflation of wages and transfer costs of players

This looks to be the case
In terms of the new UEFA Financial Sustainability rules it would make more sense to include the total sales figure, unless I'm missing something (very possible)
Maybe the structure of our deal doesn't allow for this but if we have a poor Euro season it could be important
The new regulations will see clubs subject to squad cost controls for the first time. The cost control rule restricts spending on player and coach wages, transfers, and agent fees to 70% of club revenues. (The gradual implementation will see the percentage at 90% in 2023/2024, 80% in 2024/2025, and 70% in 2025/2026). This requirement provides a direct measure between squad costs and income to encourage more performance-related costs and to limit the market inflation of wages and transfer costs of players

The papers are publishing a VAR tv angle to get them all riled up knowing it was a different VAR angle that was used to call an offside against them.

He must be 2m away, that's very definitive 

More straw clutching ffs
Players claiming for something, or not claiming for something is irrelevant 
No Dundee United players claimed the penalty at the piggery 
VAR didn't say "it hits his hand in a raised position so it should be a penalty but no-one claimed so we're not giving it"
Likewise, thankfully, when 3 or 4 Hearts players claimed a penalty last night VAR didn't say " it hits his face not his hand, it's not a penalty but there's a few claiming it so I think we'll just give it"
Did someone mention "slavering"
 

It's an old expression Dude about a scarecrow having a wank - clutching at straws
Maybe you're to young to remember Worzel Gummidge but you've been clutching at straws for hours

This
Sportscene showed an angle that was much clearer than the one on here and it was pretty conclusive that he was just offside - even Michael Stewart agreed it was a correct call.
How VAR never picked up on the throw in incident I'll never understand.
First 2 points gained from ref error for them this season and VAR should have rectified it
Add Collum's wee mistake at Easter Rd and that's 2 we lost 
4 points might mean a lot in May.
But still masons cheating, obscure camera angles, well oiled media lackie machine and a manager who doesn't talk about officials - except after every game since VAR
They know how to apply pressure

I agree it's a grey area but I genuinely can't see any circumstances in which a player off the field can play the ball, deliberately or not, and that be deemed to be ok.
You simply can't play the ball out of the "area of play" is how I see it. I'd have thought that was so fundamental and obvious