ManchestGer 347 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I'd hate this to be true but seriously can't see it happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin93 136 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 It's totally different down South.As Walter Smith said himself, it only works if they top team get what they deserve.I also agree with him when he said a play off for European spots would be more exciting.Its not just the top team that matters though and it shouldnt be. The positives are it is exciting and would mean the gap between old firm and the rest would decrease significantly but negatives are its probably unfair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
debear 603 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Don't think this has even a remote chance of happening (I was actually under the impression it was even against UEFA rules to have a playoff for the league - pretty sure in Belgium it wasn't a straight playoff, but something like a "Championship group" where your points from the first bit of the season still counted towards something). However, I don't think it would be that bad in reality. There seems to be an assumption that "it makes the league pointless" but why can't you have both? In Superleague in rugby, for instance, they have the league season, they give a trophy for the team that wins the league and then they have playoffs which are rewarded with a different trophy. In essence there are two things you're playing for. The SPL is quite dull at present, so it would give you something else to aim for (why win one trophy when you can win two?) It would surely have more value than outdated nonsense like the League Cup.The point about the police never allowing it is probably true, but also indicative of the over-involvement the police have in the game in this country. We don't ban the League/Scottish Cup final when it's us against Celtic, so why should we ban this? Are we only allowed to play directly against each other for trophies neither of us really care about? This is the sort of attitude that's killing the game in this country.Do they already have 2 other cup competitions in the Superleague? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Its not just the top team that matters though and it shouldnt be. The positives are it is exciting and would mean the gap between old firm and the rest would decrease significantly but negatives are its probably unfair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fegget 2 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I would do it only on the proviso that our Euro qualification was based on the LEAGUE standings - the playoff could be for the title of Scottish Champions, the League winners would be called the SPL League Champions. Anything other than that, forget IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
debear 603 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Its not just the top team that matters though and it shouldnt be. The positives are it is exciting and would mean the gap between old firm and the rest would decrease significantly but negatives are its probably unfairIn terms of handing out prizes, and rewarding efforts, it should be.And, Would they though?Even with this system bought in, the likelyhood is that either us or them would win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fegget 2 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Depends, I guess. If they're sensible, then they'll invest in some good quality youngsters; if not then they'll spend beyond their means, and go bust. I'll grant you this: gambling on the powers that be at SPL clubs to think sensibly for the long term is pretty risky if Hearts make it to the Group Stages - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I would do it only on the proviso that our Euro qualification was based on the LEAGUE standings - the playoff could be for the title of Scottish Champions, the League winners would be called the SPL League Champions. Anything other than that, forget IMOWe should leave having more than one champion to boxing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millsyrfc1 13 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Fucking nonsense idea, the 2nd CL spot yes but a playoff for the championship ? fuck no ! would be as well saying to rangers and celtic not to play all season and just let others battle it out to face us. such a stupid idea, think I would stop going to games if i'm honest as I couldn't go through a season watching pointless games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronaldo 38 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Do they already have 2 other cup competitions in the Superleague?No, they've just got one (the Challenge Cup) but if it's a choice between this playoff idea and the utter monotony of the League Cup then I'll take the playoffs. Like I say it's never going to happen, but if it were a replacement for the League Cup (instead of a replacement for the SPL title) then I'd be all for it. I don't see why it necessarily has to make the SPL season pointless or result in you taking away the trophy for topping the league.A "treble" would then be winning the SPL, winning the Scottish Cup and winning the SPL playoffs - three different types of competition, rather than one league, one cup and another cup nobody really cares about other than wee teams that never win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Joke of an idea.Although didn't Sweden have a system like that once? So not totally a unique idea for football, but still a terrible one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin93 136 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Most neutrals would say it would be more exciting than just the old firm year in year out and if other teams were winning the league it would give them more money therefore having the chance to close the gap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin93 136 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 In terms of handing out prizes, and rewarding efforts, it should be.And, Would they though?Even with this system bought in, the likelyhood is that either us or them would win.Probably,well far more likely than it is at the moment,the likes of Hearts/Hibs can gives us and celtic a game most of the time and if it was a one off game then they would have a good chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sasac 164 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Not read any of the thread, so this will probably have been mentioned:The whole point of a league is to see who is the best team over a course of 30+ games. Simple as that. Having a wee play off at the end of the season, where say, Inverness could finish in 4th yet still have a chance of being champions is ridiculous. We leave the split behind, and go into this?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilstonloyal 186 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 a wouldnt mind it to be honest because it would be intrestingbut it is called the scottish premier league for a reason cause it is a league and not a cup game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fegget 2 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 If they're good enough to beat us, then they should be good enough to beat the top teams from countries with lower co-efficients....Come on now lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I've had a great idea - why not, after the play-off cup final, have a penalty shoot out regardless of the score. That could decide who really wins the league.Then, after that, toss a coin to see who really, really wins the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togs 179 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 SCOTTISH SUN IN POSTING BULLSHIT STORY SHOCKER Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togs 179 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I've had a great idea - why not, after the play-off cup final, have a penalty shoot out regardless of the score. That could decide who really wins the league.Then, after that, toss a coin to see who really, really wins the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I've had a great idea - why not, after the play-off cup final, have a penalty shoot out regardless of the score. That could decide who really wins the league.Then, after that, toss a coin to see who really, really wins the league? Then we could do an online poll and then finally we have our champions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen_da_best 2,034 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 If it did happen, id hope Rangers and Celtic gain enough points to finish 3rd and 4th, around november , and just play an understrength squad every week for the rest of the season . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Do not think that Walter is to happy about it when asked about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronaldo 38 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Do not think that Walter is to happy about it when asked about it.To be honest, I think the whole thing is just posturing rather than an actual suggestion. Some clubs are against the 10 team SPL because they see it as benefiting the Old Firm and nobody else (which I don't think is entirely true, but that's their impression). Playoffs are something that would supposedly benefit the rest of the SPL but not us/Celtic (though again as I posted above I don't think that's entirely true either). So it's probably just the sort of petty tit for tat "us against them" nonsense that happens all the time in Scottish football. They'll be suggesting it for the sole reason that it's perceived as annoying the Old Firm and because it undermines a 10 team SPL. I think (not sure due to confusing BBC reporting) Walter's response was: "they should maybe have play-offs for the European places. That might be quite interesting. I wonder how they would view that" - which is either a genuine comment or an attempt to throw it back on to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I've not read the whole thread, but what fcuking idiot thought this idea up?Thompson, Doncaster, Regan, McLeish... fcuk off back to where you came from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Then we could do an online poll and then finally we have our champions.Fuck that.Ask Simon Cowell! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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