FlippinEck 3,708 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 If there is any contact though the player cant be booked for simulation and that is the rule is it not? Maybe the ref thought there was no contact and got that wrong... Looked like minimal contact to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,531 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I'll accept your stance on this if you've never cheered a less-than-genuine Rangers penalty or free-kick. Or the Lovenkrands fall to get Alan Boozebag Thompson sending off donkeys ago.That's irrelevant. I'm not saying if I was happy or not with the dive just because it was Torres/Chelsea that did it, I'm just saying that it was a dive. If it was a Rangers player who did it as well I'd say it was a dive too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,531 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 If there is any contact though the player cant be booked for simulation and that is the rule is it not? Maybe the ref thought there was no contact and got that wrong... Looked like minimal contact to meWell I think most people in here have agreed about Ivanovic's sending off? And the Torres decision was by no means "ridiculous", some may think he got it wrong, I don't think there was a need to send him off, even though I do think it was a dive, but by the rules, or what I thought were the rules, Clattenburg had a right to book him. If your saying that contact means you can't get booked then it should have been just a freekick to Man Utd. IMO.I don't think Clattenburg did, well, anything wrong in the decisions, and certainly nothing outrageous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 That's irrelevant. I'm not saying if I was happy or not with the dive just because it was Torres/Chelsea that did it, I'm just saying that it was a dive. If it was a Rangers player who did it as well I'd say it was a dive too.Would you have said 'we all knew (insert player) was going to dive' if it was a member of the current team? I really doubt it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Getting back on topic and away from some of the shite that's being talked you wonder if this sus character clattenburg should have been allowed back into the game after suspension especially when he's had debt problems.In the summer of 2008, Clattenburg was appointed to referee that year's FA Community Shield, with Dave Richardson and Ian Gosling assisting and Andre Marriner acting as fourth official.[16] However, Clattenburg was later suspended from refereeing, pending an investigation into alleged debts incurred by companies to which he was connected.[17] The Shield match between Portsmouth and Manchester United took place at Wembley Stadium with Peter Walton as the replacement referee.[18]Following the investigation into his personal life and business debts, the referees' governing body dismissed Clattenburg, citing a breach of contract. He denied all the allegations and appealed the decision.[19] On 18 February 2009 the Professional Game Match Officials Board reinstated Clattenburg as a Select Group referee. However, he had to serve an eight-month suspension, starting from his original suspension date of 6 August 2008. Upon his return from suspension on the last day of the Premier League season, Clattenburg refereed a fixture between Manchester City and Bolton Wanderers — his only domestic appointment of that season.Guys like this are open to bribes and should be thrown out of the game. Looks like the EPL is as bent as the SPL. Great find! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 If there is any contact though the player cant be booked for simulation and that is the rule is it not? Maybe the ref thought there was no contact and got that wrong... Looked like minimal contact to meThere was contact but it was only visible with the help of tv replays. Clattenburg got a decision wrong - big fucking deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,515 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 They have always had the biggest following in northern Ireland. Its Liverpool in the republic.Lol. No. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,515 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Getting back on topic and away from some of the shite that's being talked you wonder if this sus character clattenburg should have been allowed back into the game after suspension especially when he's had debt problems.In the summer of 2008, Clattenburg was appointed to referee that year's FA Community Shield, with Dave Richardson and Ian Gosling assisting and Andre Marriner acting as fourth official.[16] However, Clattenburg was later suspended from refereeing, pending an investigation into alleged debts incurred by companies to which he was connected.[17] The Shield match between Portsmouth and Manchester United took place at Wembley Stadium with Peter Walton as the replacement referee.[18]Following the investigation into his personal life and business debts, the referees' governing body dismissed Clattenburg, citing a breach of contract. He denied all the allegations and appealed the decision.[19] On 18 February 2009 the Professional Game Match Officials Board reinstated Clattenburg as a Select Group referee. However, he had to serve an eight-month suspension, starting from his original suspension date of 6 August 2008. Upon his return from suspension on the last day of the Premier League season, Clattenburg refereed a fixture between Manchester City and Bolton Wanderers — his only domestic appointment of that season.Guys like this are open to bribes and should be thrown out of the game. Looks like the EPL is as bent as the SPL. Holy fuck. Clattenburg is actually usually a very good ref. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 There was contact but it was only visible with the help of tv replays. Clattenburg got a decision wrong - big fucking deal.That's forgivable if he doesn't book Torres for diving therefore sending him off. HE can not give anything, but he had to be sure it was a dive to give FT his second yellow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongolikecandy 418 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 You can never trust public opinon 100%.All I know is when I used to have a bar Man United drew more punters when their game was on Sky than any other team by a country mile,Then again the bar was in North Down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,870 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I remember Stuart Dougal told Christian Nerlinger to "fuck off". He got interviewed this morning on SSN funnily enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongolikecandy 418 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I remember Stuart Dougal told Christian Nerlinger to "fuck off". He got interviewed this morning on SSN funnily enough.iThis blame game is going to ruin the game for fuck sake.If a player is going to slabber then the ref should be able to tell them to fuck up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Getting back on topic and away from some of the shite that's being talked you wonder if this sus character clattenburg should have been allowed back into the game after suspension especially when he's had debt problems.In the summer of 2008, Clattenburg was appointed to referee that year's FA Community Shield, with Dave Richardson and Ian Gosling assisting and Andre Marriner acting as fourth official.[16] However, Clattenburg was later suspended from refereeing, pending an investigation into alleged debts incurred by companies to which he was connected.[17] The Shield match between Portsmouth and Manchester United took place at Wembley Stadium with Peter Walton as the replacement referee.[18]Following the investigation into his personal life and business debts, the referees' governing body dismissed Clattenburg, citing a breach of contract. He denied all the allegations and appealed the decision.[19] On 18 February 2009 the Professional Game Match Officials Board reinstated Clattenburg as a Select Group referee. However, he had to serve an eight-month suspension, starting from his original suspension date of 6 August 2008. Upon his return from suspension on the last day of the Premier League season, Clattenburg refereed a fixture between Manchester City and Bolton Wanderers — his only domestic appointment of that season.Guys like this are open to bribes and should be thrown out of the game. Looks like the EPL is as bent as the SPL. Fuck sake! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 That's forgivable if he doesn't book Torres for diving therefore sending him off. HE can not give anything, but he had to be sure it was a dive to give FT his second yellow.Then he must have been sure in his own mind that that is what happened - or he's corrupt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,188 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Getting back on topic and away from some of the shite that's being talked you wonder if this sus character clattenburg should have been allowed back into the game after suspension especially when he's had debt problems.In the summer of 2008, Clattenburg was appointed to referee that year's FA Community Shield, with Dave Richardson and Ian Gosling assisting and Andre Marriner acting as fourth official.[16] However, Clattenburg was later suspended from refereeing, pending an investigation into alleged debts incurred by companies to which he was connected.[17] The Shield match between Portsmouth and Manchester United took place at Wembley Stadium with Peter Walton as the replacement referee.[18]Following the investigation into his personal life and business debts, the referees' governing body dismissed Clattenburg, citing a breach of contract. He denied all the allegations and appealed the decision.[19] On 18 February 2009 the Professional Game Match Officials Board reinstated Clattenburg as a Select Group referee. However, he had to serve an eight-month suspension, starting from his original suspension date of 6 August 2008. Upon his return from suspension on the last day of the Premier League season, Clattenburg refereed a fixture between Manchester City and Bolton Wanderers — his only domestic appointment of that season.Guys like this are open to bribes and should be thrown out of the game. Looks like the EPL is as bent as the SPL. Disgusting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Holy fuck. Clattenburg is actually usually a very good ref.None of that is new(apart from the usual shite at the end), or in any way a secret deal. It was public knowledge and in all the media. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 They've traditionally always had one of the biggest, if not thee biggest, Irish following out of all the English clubs.Bastards.I always thought Liverpool had the biggest.They have always had the biggest following in northern Ireland. Its Liverpool in the republic.And you know this ,how?Popular opinion. Is it not true?Lol.No.Man United supporters clubs in ROI - 34Liverpool supporters clubs in ROI - 40Man United supporters clubs in N.I - 48Liverpool supporters clubs in N.I - 31http://www.liverpoolfc.com/fans/membership/aib-association-of-international-brancheshttp://www.prideofmanchester.com/sport/mufc-supporters.htmMay not be completely conclusive but I think it gives a rough idea who is a bigger supported club and where. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devlin 222 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 "Entitled to go down" is what is wrong in these situations. I don't think you are ever "entitled" to go down. You either get forced down or you stay up. Torres could have easily stayed up.So if I poke you on the arm and you fall down that isn't a dive? If that's all he can withstand he shouldn't be playing football.If you poked my on the arm and i fell down then you shouldn't have poked me in the arm without knowing how much my arms can take, cruel bastard. Who are you to say what Torres should be doing with his life? Would you rather he was depressed on the dole? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Then he must have been sure in his own mind that that is what happened - or he's corrupt.Or inept. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Man United supporters clubs in ROI - 34Liverpool supporters clubs in ROI - 40Man United supporters clubs in N.I - 48Liverpool supporters clubs in N.I - 31http://www.liverpoolfc.com/fans/membership/aib-association-of-international-brancheshttp://www.prideofmanchester.com/sport/mufc-supporters.htmMay not be completely conclusive but I think it gives a rough idea who is a bigger supported club and where.That's dedication, Derek! Always knew Liverpool was the taig team. in England. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Or inept.Make up your mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 That's dedication, Derek! Always knew Liverpool was the taig team. in England. Other than having a deep rooted irrational hatred for United I can't see what reason anyone would have to argue the point. In my life time its always been Liverpool that has been regarded as the club with the biggest catholic following. Also as the club with the biggest affinity with Celtic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongolikecandy 418 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I would say Rangers have as many if not more supporters clubs than United over here,but there is no way they have as big of fanbase as the mancs,I don't think you can base it on clubs,but thanks for posting those fugures ,suprising figures for EireMan United supporters clubs in ROI - 34Liverpool supporters clubs in ROI - 40Man United supporters clubs in N.I - 48Liverpool supporters clubs in N.I - 31http://www.liverpoolfc.com/fans/membership/aib-association-of-international-brancheshttp://www.prideofmanchester.com/sport/mufc-supporters.htmMay not be completely conclusive but I think it gives a rough idea who is a bigger supported club and where. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 where are you mate? I would say Rangers are probably the biggest supported in N.Ireland. Man U second. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongolikecandy 418 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 where are you mate? I would say Rangers are probably the biggest supported in N.Ireland. Man U second.Bangor used to have a bar United drew without doubt the biggest crowd when their game was shown Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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