Chelsea cheated like fuck the day !

[The Godfather 72,168]

I believe you.

No you don't.

[Devlin 222]

Are you saying that Torres went down due to the pain - a split second after Evans brushed his sock-covered, shinpad-protected tibia?

I'm saying he could have. How do you know what force would have taken him down in that situation?

[OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475]

Tevez's goal was a cracker.

[caseyjones 3,009]

I'm saying he could have. How do you know what force would have taken him down in that situation?

I'm a scientist.

[Devlin 222]

You asked a question you dont care to know the answer of?

I have a girlfriend mate i'm used to it

In the grand scheme of things i don't care. I'm debating or at least trying to and i thought there was more to the stat you posted, i wanted to see if you had the stat i requested, you didn't. I don't care about Man Ures team or support believe it or not. You don't have to care to post.

[caseyjones 3,009]

No you don't.

I do now that you have said you don't.

I'll be watching though.

[ClintonGrey 365]

If it turns out Clattenburg is guilty of what he's been accused of, throw the book at him.

Either way, we only have our defence (and the FA for banning Terry for no reason) to blame for actually losing the game.

[The Godfather 72,168]

I do now that you have said you don't.

I'll be watching though.

[Broxi 11,524]

Last man is not a rule. Does not exist.

Also, changing it from 'we all know Torres dived' to 'let's face it' doesn't change anything. He was caught and perfectly entitled to go down. Whether he did so theatrically or not, Evans caught him and it was a foul. MC got it hugely wrong.

"Entitled to go down" is what is wrong in these situations. I don't think you are ever "entitled" to go down. You either get forced down or you stay up. Torres could have easily stayed up.

It's not a dive if there's contact, who are you to know what pain Torres can withstand?

So if I poke you on the arm and you fall down that isn't a dive? If that's all he can withstand he shouldn't be playing football.

[The Godfather 72,168]

"Entitled to go down" is what is wrong in these situations. I don't think you are ever "entitled" to go down. You either get forced down or you stay up. Torres could have easily stayed up.

So if I poke you on the arm and you fall down that isn't a dive? If that's all he can withstand he shouldn't be playing football.

Was Devlin running at full speed?

[Broxi 11,524]

Was Devlin running at full speed?

It was a dive.

[ClintonGrey 365]

"Entitled to go down" is what is wrong in these situations. I don't think you are ever "entitled" to go down. You either get forced down or you stay up. Torres could have easily stayed up.

So if I poke you on the arm and you fall down that isn't a dive? If that's all he can withstand he shouldn't be playing football.

The point is, within the rules, Torres could go down. Therefore not a red card, therefore Clatty got it wrong.

It did not cost us the game, but it was fucking annoying at the time.

[caseyjones 3,009]

Was Devlin running at full speed?

Yes - he had just seen a ghost.

[The Godfather 72,168]

It was a dive.

Nope.

[The Godfather 72,168]

Yes - he had just seen a ghost.

[mongolikecandy 418]

They have always had the biggest following in northern Ireland. Its Liverpool in the republic.

And you know this ,how?

[Broxi 11,524]

The point is, within the rules, Torres could go down. Therefore not a red card, therefore Clatty got it wrong.

It did not cost us the game, but it was fucking annoying at the time.

Where in the rules does it say that if a player touches you that you are allowed to fall to the floor when you could have stayed up!?

[caseyjones 3,009]

And you know this ,how?

Popular opinion. Is it not true?

[The Godfather 72,168]

Where in the rules does it say that if a player touches you that you are allowed to fall to the floor when you could have stayed up!?

Have you asked Torres if he could have stayed up?

[Broxi 11,524]

Have you asked Torres if he could have stayed up?

If he couldn't he shouldn't be playing.

[The Godfather 72,168]

If he couldn't he shouldn't be playing.

[mongolikecandy 418]

Popular opinion. Is it not true?

I don't know ,that's why I was asking

[caseyjones 3,009]

I don't know ,that's why I was asking

You can never trust public opinon 100%.

[Senna 735]

"Entitled to go down" is what is wrong in these situations. I don't think you are ever "entitled" to go down. You either get forced down or you stay up. Torres could have easily stayed up.

I'll accept your stance on this if you've never cheered a less-than-genuine Rangers penalty or free-kick. Or the Lovenkrands fall to get Alan Boozebag Thompson sending off donkeys ago.

[BLUEDIGNITY 33,681]

Getting back on topic and away from some of the shite that's being talked you wonder if this sus character clattenburg should have been allowed back into the game after suspension especially when he's had debt problems.

In the summer of 2008, Clattenburg was appointed to referee that year's FA Community Shield, with Dave Richardson and Ian Gosling assisting and Andre Marriner acting as fourth official.^[16] However, Clattenburg was later suspended from refereeing, pending an investigation into alleged debts incurred by companies to which he was connected.^[17] The Shield match between Portsmouth and Manchester United took place at Wembley Stadium with Peter Walton as the replacement referee.^[18]

Following the investigation into his personal life and business debts, the referees' governing body dismissed Clattenburg, citing a breach of contract. He denied all the allegations and appealed the decision.^[19] On 18 February 2009 the Professional Game Match Officials Board reinstated Clattenburg as a Select Group referee. However, he had to serve an eight-month suspension, starting from his original suspension date of 6 August 2008. Upon his return from suspension on the last day of the Premier League season, Clattenburg refereed a fixture between Manchester City and Bolton Wanderers — his only domestic appointment of that season.

Guys like this are open to bribes and should be thrown out of the game. Looks like the EPL is as bent as the SPL.