No.12 508 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 On our return to the top league in a couple of years, what would you see as a suitable transfer budget to challenge for a top 2 position? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,887 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 A few players of decent quality for 2-3 million each and hopefully decent scouting might see some cheap or bosman deals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMorrison1872 320 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 To be quite honest, that question is pretty much unanswerable.We don't even no what financial state we are in just now never mind looking two years ahead.I would hope by then we would have moulded a good selection of our youngsters to compete at that level, they are our future after all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang2911 423 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 On our return to the top league in a couple of years, what would you see as a suitable transfer budget to challenge for a top 2 position?It was widely reported pre-IPO that there would be a further need for fund raising prior to entering the top league, contrary to recent ramblings this was expected. The numbers mentioned at the time, if I remember right, was between £30-£50M, how much of that is to be spent on the squad will depend on the work being done now with players on frees and the development of youth players.Unfortunately it is already obvious that some of the younger ones will not make it in to a top league first team so depending on the next couple of transfer windows I would expect £10-£12M of a transfer kitty for the premiership, if all goes beter than expected between now and then this can be reduced to £5-£8M. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabawsa 888 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We need to learn from the past. Spending big bucks would drag us right into the mire again. We need to look just now for bargain buys who can mature in the next 2 years . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We need to be looking for the upcoming players for 1 or 2 million that we can sell on.. We can't go spending 4 million on players for just a couple of European games a year, we need to be run as a feeder club for the EPL if we don't want to get back to the days of large debt, extortionate ticket and merchandise prices. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarrhillLoyal 32 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I don't recall any mention of further funds being required and, right now, feel a wee but ripped off - albeit for £500. The highlights from the prospectus I kept were the followingThe Company plans to use the money raised from the Placing to improve theinfrastructure of the Club. In particular, the Directors have identified:• upgrades to Ibrox stadium (approximately £5.5 million); WHERE ARE THESE? SURELY NOT WIFI?• acquisition of land assets adjacent to the stadium (£4.5 million); THE TICKET OFFICE AND CLUB are all I can think of just now• other identified projects which could result in additional revenue THE SHOPS AT THE AIRPORT AND BELFASTgenerating activities (approximately £3.0 million); and• general working capital purposes.In addition, should the Company receive funds from the Offer, the Directors haveidentified other potential investments that would go beyond the Group’s strategyin the next 12 months, but which could further enhance revenue opportunities.In particular, the Directors have identified:• further upgrades to Ibrox Stadium (approximately £3.5 million); and• other identified projects which could result in additional reviewgenerating activities (approximately £2.0 million),Additionally, cash could also be used to provide the Directors with additionalflexibility to opportunistically consider appropriate investment opportunitiesas and when they arise.------------------Does anyone else feel a wee bit like we have been blindsided by Green and co? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We need 15 players in at £8-12m a pop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo 588 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 At least another 11-13 players we'll need for the top flight in my opinion - We'll need to get them cheap and/or on bosman deals.Only players I can see for us so far at the top flight is Wallace, McCulloch, Little Templeton, Cammy Bell and Law and most of those would be squad players I'd imagine Jury is out to be fair on whether Moshni / Clark / MacLeod could do a job for us in the top flight Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE5 107 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Transfer fees are not important, finding the right players is and they can be had for free every summer. Give me a team of Boumsongs, Hemdanis and Prsos before a team of Hendrys, Rozentals and Flos every day of the week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Hammer of Der Gods 421 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I think we need to build the team around three players. Nicky law,Lewis macleod, and Nicky clark. These three players will improve over the next two years and need to be the backbone of our premiership team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMorrison1872 320 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Bale and Ronaldo minimum Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,376 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Depends on what we do now. Mould and develop a team integrating youths and those like law who are spl experienced and with a good few years ahead of them will mean several players in the 1 to 2 mill bracket required. Through purchase or bosmans.My expectation tho is that we' ll pretty much have to rip it up and start again with double figures quantity of players required. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We should be just fine with 10 million. Provided we sign the right player. Ally seems to have this idea of getting "bodies" in. Thats financial suicide. If a player doesnt improve the squad then he shouldn't be signed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We can do it all without spending too much money if we get our scouting sorted out.The bosman market can be a lucrative place nowadays, just look how well we done in the 3rd tier. If we were at the top table and fighting for Europe, we could probably get an even higher quality bosman.That along with making smaller offers for players nearing the end of their contract.And if we do stick to that market for a while, we can eventually sell some of these bosmans off and make profit towards buying a few even better quality players if needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,510 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We should also look to use the loan market in our first few years back to suppliment the need to spend. A few buys, a few loans, next season, a few more buys, less loans etc.Lets us spread the cost whilst still bringing in the talent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.12 508 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 We shouldn't be spending more than £1.5m or £2m on a player to achieve what we want in the Premiership. 2/3 transfer fees and a couple of decent loans would be suffice for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Hard question to answer due to various issues.I think we will need a fair bit if Ally remains in charge though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,740 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 As others have said we need to get wise in the transfer market. There is no reason why we could not break even in the transfer market if we buy and sell carefully. We should be planning already for the top flight, developing our young players who we think will be good enough, making sure they get the right amount of game time. We should already be identifying potention bosmans for next summer and the summer after. What we will need though is a much higher wage bill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,887 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 As others have said we need to get wise in the transfer market. There is no reason why we could not break even in the transfer market if we buy and sell carefully. We should be planning already for the top flight, developing our young players who we think will be good enough, making sure they get the right amount of game time. We should already be identifying potention bosmans for next summer and the summer after. What we will need though is a much higher wage bill.We should be but I get the impression we are only taking it one season at a time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Concentrate on upgrading our scouting system so we can improve on the transfers and hopefully use that towards a healthy budget.Hopefully this would mean a better chance of free deals of good quality and also young players on the cheap to possibly sell on for decent profits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 10 million to buy 3-4 top players at 2-3 million would suffice However my concern as always would be the coaching and tactics and methods under this management team - no point buying good players if they will all go backwards in a few weeks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The wages should be the most important factor. We should have a wage cap, and that would dictate, more or less, what we spend on transfers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 10 million to buy 3-4 top players at 2-3 million would sufficeHowever my concern as always would be the coaching and tactics and methods under this management team - no point buying good players if they will all go backwards in a few weeksAye. Our manager and coaches could turn Ronaldo into a painter & decorator in a fortnight... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Aye. Our manager and coaches could turn Ronaldo into a painter & decorator in a fortnight...They would un-intentionally remove something from his play, that's a certaintyProbably him him playing defensive mid alongside Kyle Hutton in no time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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