Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 If they do die, watch for the rush of apologies from others in a precarious position as they realise that c****c have no intentions of helping them, despite their support for the mhanks against us. C****c are too busy stockpiling cash - not to be ready for us buy to repay their mortgage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Any remaining possible sponsors of this league will take note and reconsider any potential investment. Money down the drain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbryce 63 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Are Dunfermline actually in administration?I'm sure the answer is yes so why haven't they had a points deduction?According to Companies House, they are not. If it happened within the last week or so, it won't have been updated yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbryce 63 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 That's just a little collateral damageWe would get awarded a 3-0 win and we've no even played them yetWe have max points and won't effect usI thought they took away all the points other teams scored against them if they failed to complete the season. We haven't played them yet so we won't lose points. Forfar and Arbroath got 3 points against them and Brechin got 1 point.Forfar would stay in 9th place but that would now be bottomw of the table, Arbroath from 6th to 8th, East Fife from 10th to 7th, Airdrie 8th to 6th, Stranraer 7th to 5th, Arbroath, 6th to 3rd, Brechin would move from 5th to 4th, Ayr 4th to 3rd, Stenhousemuir 3rd to 2nd, Dunfermline would disappear and we would stay top with maximum points and we would have played one more game than everyone else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I thought they took away all the points other teams scored against them if they failed to complete the season. We haven't played them yet so we won't lose points.This my understanding of how a mid-season liquidation would be managed in terms of the league table. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I thought they took away all the points other teams scored against them if they failed to complete the season. We haven't played them yet so we won't lose points. Forfar and Arbroath got 3 points against them and Brechin got 1 point.Forfar would stay in 9th place but that would now be bottomw of the table, Arbroath from 6th to 8th, East Fife from 10th to 7th, Airdrie 8th to 6th, Stranraer 7th to 5th, Arbroath, 6th to 3rd, Brechin would move from 5th to 4th, Ayr 4th to 3rd, Stenhousemuir 3rd to 2nd, Dunfermline would disappear and we would stay top with maximum points and we would have played one more game than everyone else.They make up rules as they go along but I believe everyone's awarded 3.0 wins Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrongshapedballs 78 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 According to Companies House, they are not. If it happened within the last week or so, it won't have been updated yet.Which company are you looking at? According to the credit agency we use the Ltd, which is presumably the body that holds the license to play, is still in admin, but the PLC (holding company) is not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Atheist 178 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Trying to understand this a bit better as its slightly confusing but from what I can gather the council are refusing to take Dunfermlines training ground back in the current condition it is in (as its a council requirement to get a property back in the same condition it was leased out) and there's no option to keep leasing it either.If thats the case I don't rate their chances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 3-0 win my arse, we would have took at least 5 off these cunts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 A question :Will BDO charge Dunfermline the same as we were charged for going into admin etc ?I'd imagine administrators fees are the same regardless of the size of the football club as its the same job they are doing If so , where the heck are Dunfermline getting the cash to pay BDO ??Especially going to court now , the fees must be astranomical for the size of a club like Dunfermline Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,609 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Oh well shit happens! Bye then Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non_Sucumbi 876 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Dunfermline FC won't be liquidated.Only the company will die, the football club will remain in some shape or form.Personally, I hope they will stay on in the SPFLIf the company who controls them is liquidated what happens.? Under the precedent set when our insolvency event occurred we were denied the opportunity to transfer our membership of the SPL from 'oldco' to 'newco'. As a result we were booted out of the SPL. Rangers were fortunate that there was another football body in existence in Scotland at the time, namely the SFL. Remember the SFL were under no obligation to accept our application for membership and I believe some individuals in Scotland were against the SFL letting us join their league. Well what's good for the goose should be good for the Hearts and Dnfermline. Surely 'sporting integrity' and precedence dictates that in the event of any club being liquidated that their share/membership of the SPFL isnon-transferable Or was that rule only a convenience to boot Rangers in the bollocks? Any SPFL club entering liquidation should not be allowed to transfer their membership of the SPFL to a newco. Junior football awaits and is what justice demands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Dunferline will still be a football club as you can't liquidate a football club it will be the company that gets liquidated.SPFL are change rules for people who go into administration instead of getting points deducted they will be relegated so that will surely mean Dunferline will be in the 3rd division next season? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Dunferline will still be a football club as you can't liquidate a football club it will be the company that gets liquidated.SPFL are change rules for people who go into administration instead of getting points deducted they will be relegated so that will surely mean Dunferline will be in the 3rd division next season?I would disagree. You can liquidate a football club. This happened with airdrieonians.I.e. the company is put into liquidation and no-one buys the business (club). This way all the assets are broken up and the staff are all made redundant. No continuation of the economic entity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,881 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have perfectly chilled champagne ready. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Why can they not be liquidated just now? Do they only have enough money for a week? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Dunferline will still be a football club as you can't liquidate a football club it will be the company that gets liquidated.SPFL are change rules for people who go into administration instead of getting points deducted they will be relegated so that will surely mean Dunferline will be in the 3rd division next season?Yeah but they won't be able to come back as I believe they own no assets Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yeah but they won't be able to come back as I believe they own no assetsah well get it right up them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Foreverblue. We are talking about liquidation, not administration. No set rules for liquidation - only the precedents set in their dealings with Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyren 601 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have perfectly chilled champagne ready. im just going to open a cheap bottle of cava for this one, im keeping the champagne for hearts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 im just going to open a cheap bottle of cava for this one, im keeping the champagne for hearts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy1872 421 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 went on to dunfermline forum for wee noseyfound these comments Re: Possible Liquidation Next Week.... Topic Originator: GEW35 Date: Wed 9 Oct 18:18 Great stuff, show starts at 6.10 and here we are at 6.16 and back onto Rangers..... Re: Possible Liquidation Next Week.... Topic Originator: Tribbiani Date: Wed 9 Oct 18:18 "Let's switch our attention to Rangers" FFS! haha! Its all about the Rangers!Hope they are liquidated Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Fuck Dunfermline after Yorkstons carry on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalvinC 1,414 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yeah they are fucked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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