Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 With the general consensus being McCoist must leave, at least we have been able to debate on here quite amicably and constructively on here about the issue. I hope we continue on in the same vein, even when things are perhaps taken to the next level - whether that be protesting or singing anti-Ally songs etc.The lack of class being shown by Man U fans is quite cringe-worthy and they simply come across as spoiled little brats. They do have a reason for wanting Moyes out but I would hope we would never stoop to such levels as this:http://www.davidmoyesfootballgenius.co.uk/Although there is a difference in that McCoist has earned his place as a Rangers playing legend and Moyes is a relative Man U outsider, I think we can all agree there is a way to do things and a way not to do things.With the cup semi final coming up I hope support is given to the team during which will be a very difficult game, our fans have been incredible again this season. There has been talk of boycotting the game, chanting and protesting, I would hope this only happens once the game has been lost or after the game. In my opinion there is no place for this just before the game or during a cup game which we still can win.That's all I wanted to say really, hope we can all enjoy a win and a good performance on Saturday.We deserve it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpbluebear1972 22 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 protests should only be done after the game and at the front door if you have to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 protests should only be done after the game and at the front door if you have to.Agreed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 With the general consensus being McCoist must leave, at least we have been able to debate on here quite amicably and constructively on here about the issue. I hope we continue on in the same vein, even when things are perhaps taken to the next level - whether that be protesting or singing anti-Ally songs etc.The lack of class being shown by Man U fans is quite cringe-worthy and they simply come across as spoiled little brats. They do have a reason for wanting Moyes out but I would hope we would never stoop to such levels as this:http://www.davidmoye...llgenius.co.uk/Although there is a difference in that McCoist has earned his place as a Rangers playing legend and Moyes is a relative Man U outsider, I think we can all agree there is a way to do things and a way not to do things.With the cup semi final coming up I hope support is given to the team during which will be a very difficult game, our fans have been incredible again this season. There has been talk of boycotting the game, chanting and protesting, I would hope this only happens once the game has been lost or after the game. In my opinion there is no place for this just before the game or during a cup game which we still can win.That's all I wanted to say really, hope we can all enjoy a win and a good performance on Saturday.We deserve it. sections of our support give anyone a run for coming across as spoilt - just look at how we have turned on Ally who is both one of our own and doing his job in uncharted territories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 sections of our support give anyone a run for coming across as spoilt - just look at how we have turned on Ally who is both one of our own and doing his job in uncharted territories.Just as a few are petulant and desperate to be different for their own reasons, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Just as a few are petulant and desperate to be different for their own reasons, couldn't have said it better myself Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 sections of our support give anyone a run for coming across as spoilt - just look at how we have turned on Ally who is both one of our own and doing his job in uncharted territories.I agree that a section of our fans do come across that way, in fact a lot of teams have those particular sections. However, not all fans hire a plane to fly a manager out banner over the stadium during a game.A lot has been made of the difficulties Ally has had to endure during his management while being expected to yield results, however, you have to admit he's been given resources which make his job a hell of a lot easier than other managers he's competing with at our current level. The wage budget, training facilities, supporting staff, and thousands of fans all help Ally, so I think it's misleading to make McCoist out to be a poor wee soul who's struggling to do his job under unsurmountable constraints. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddistonKnight 1,567 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 sections of our support give anyone a run for coming across as spoilt - just look at how we have turned on Ally who is both one of our own and doing his job in uncharted territories.Being one of our own should never excuse someone of failing to meet the standards set since 1872.Ally has failed in so many ways. Not everyone can put an eloquent spin on their feelings and come across as the voice of reason. Sometimes people have just had their fill and let it all spill out.You need to see past the individual comments and get a true sense of the anger coming from the people. Your failure in understanding WHY it has come to this for so many people is at least equal to the failures Ally has heaped on this club for the last 3 years - neither of you can see past a League table which has hidden the true extent of the malaise that hangs over us.Everyday brings uncharted territories for people - it is how we navigate them that defines us. And how we are being defined at the moment is shocking for a club like ours, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 Being one of our own should never excuse someone of failing to meet the standards set since 1872.Ally has failed in so many ways. Not everyone can put an eloquent spin on their feelings and come across as the voice of reason. Sometimes people have just had their fill and let it all spill out.You need to see past the individual comments and get a true sense of the anger coming from the people. Your failure in understanding WHY it has come to this for so many people is at least equal to the failures Ally has heaped on this club for the last 3 years - neither of you can see past a League table which has hidden the true extent of the malaise that hangs over us.Everyday brings uncharted territories for people - it is how we navigate them that defines us.Exactly, this is someone just happy to label everyone that disagrees with him Ally-bashers instead of actually trying to understand the other side of the argument. McCoist was my boyhood hero, I love the guy still and I was overjoyed when he was made manager. I stuck by him and defended him as a manager only until recently. Everyone has a different breaking point, mine was the Raith game. I cannot defend his poor performance any longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonRFC82 305 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 sections of our support give anyone a run for coming across as spoilt - just look at how we have turned on Ally who is both one of our own and doing his job in uncharted territories.While I detest the level of vitriol and personal attacks on Ally, at what point is it acceptable to admit that despite being one of our own, he is not up to the job? Or does simply being one of our own act as a get out of jail free card for any/all of his faults as a manager?The fact you have to continually reference him being one of our own, instead of actually defending his managerial ability is quite telling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,374 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 A good OP and yes let's hope we can enjoy a win on Saturday as we do deserve it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 A blog poibting out Moyes' failure. Hardly much wrong with that. Theres a list of McCoists flying around too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 sections of our support give anyone a run for coming across as spoilt - just look at how we have turned on Ally who is both one of our own and doing his job in uncharted territories.Being one of our own does not excuse someone from being a failure, something Ally clearly is.Why I'm even replying to a troll such as you is beyond me right enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,476 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 C'mon that was funny. I wish they had a few players standing a bit farther down who could have been used for the pubes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binsy08 362 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 sections of our support give anyone a run for coming across as spoilt - just look at how we have turned on Ally who is both one of our own and doing his job in uncharted territories.Do you actually think this pish up on your own.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
As I Was Walking.... 100 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Ok not the 1st time i,ve been seen as out-of-date but ----27.5m for Fellini ? The Everton Treasurer must still be Phishing himself laughing over that !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKA 545 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 sections of our support give anyone a run for coming across as spoilt - just look at how we have turned on Ally who is both one of our own and doing his job in uncharted territories.Ally, should you not be taking training? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Being one of our own should never excuse someone of failing to meet the standards set since 1872.Ally has failed in so many ways. Not everyone can put an eloquent spin on their feelings and come across as the voice of reason. Sometimes people have just had their fill and let it all spill out.You need to see past the individual comments and get a true sense of the anger coming from the people. Your failure in understanding WHY it has come to this for so many people is at least equal to the failures Ally has heaped on this club for the last 3 years - neither of you can see past a League table which has hidden the true extent of the malaise that hangs over us.Everyday brings uncharted territories for people - it is how we navigate them that defines us. And how we are being defined at the moment is shocking for a club like ours,A footballing 'cliche' and I love cliches because they are true is that league positions don't lie - so saying that winning a league hides a malaise is a false premise to me.I also agree that there is a lot of anger in our support, and a lot to be angry about- I only question is that anger being turned on Ally rather than those that caused our demise and those who have perpetuated our suffering during this demise. Turning that anger on Ally ( IMHO) is both wrong and misguided. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Being one of our own does not excuse someone from being a failure, something Ally clearly is.Why I'm even replying to a troll such as you is beyond me right enough.The man leading our march back, winning back to back leagues and providing continuity and fight back - you see that as failure ?? And I'm a troll ..... Ffs .... Supporting our manager is now trolling! Get a grip of your anger and if it helps turn it on me but try supporting our manager who is leading the fight back - he is not where our anger should be directed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 This weekend is purely about supporting the team. i won't dwell on last weekend and i will close off to all the comments about our manager and players. If we manage the win, all is not forgiven but i know there is little that can be done at this stage, we can only give our support and hope they can raise their game then at the end of the season we can only hope for sweeping changes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 The man leading our march back, winning back to back leagues and providing continuity and fight back - you see that as failure ?? And I'm a troll ..... Ffs .... Supporting our manager is now trolling! Get a grip of your anger and if it helps turn it on me but try supporting our manager who is leading the fight back - he is not where our anger should be directed.Fight there's about as much fight in that team and management as you get from a newborn baby. Beating part time teams with over inflated budget isn't fight its a laughing stock. Oh we have continuity alright we are continually pish week after week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 The man leading our march back, winning back to back leagues and providing continuity and fight back - you see that as failure ??And I'm a troll ..... Ffs .... Supporting our manager is now trolling! Get a grip of your anger and if it helps turn it on me but try supporting our manager who is leading the fight back - he is not where our anger should be directed.Provided back to back wins in a piss poor league, his 'achievements' have been listed here several times, he's a dud, failure and is treating us like mugs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fools Gold 488 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 sections of our support give anyone a run for coming across as spoilt - just look at how we have turned on Ally who is both one of our own and doing his job in uncharted territories.It's always with the 'heart' with you, and never logic. He's a crap manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueyonderbill 127 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Don't rate Ally as a manager, but hate all the personal abuse. Let's just get right behind him and the team on Saturday and HAVE IBROX ROCKING. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Provided back to back wins in a piss poor league, his 'achievements' have been listed here several times, he's a dud, failure and is treating us like mugs.Disagree - his achievements belittleld, the size of the task underestimated by many, and the back stabbing immense! And still he delivered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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