simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Im voting against the Tory mentality and thats important. They died fighting for a better future for their country. An ideal which has been betrayed by successive London centric governments. They would, if alive today, be fully behind a YES vote.Keep telling yourself all that.Traitor Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy74 20 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Keep telling yourself all that.TraitorEasy to hide behind a computer and call people names. Not much of an argument for anything though is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Im voting against the Tory mentality and thats important. They died fighting for a better future for their country. An ideal which has been betrayed by successive London centric governments. They would, if alive today, be fully behind a YES vote.Really? They'd be behind a vote that leads to us joining the EU? Fuck knows if they would be pro union or not but you can bet your left nut they wouldn't want to join the den of villainy oligarchy and autocracy that is the fucking EU.Its the very thing they died fighting against for fuck sake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy74 20 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Really? They'd be behind a vote that leads to us joining the EU? Fuck knows if they would be pro union or not but you can bet your left nut they wouldn't want to join the den of villainy oligarchy and autocracy that is the fucking EU.Its the very thing they died fighting against for fuck sake.I fail to see your logic. We are already in the EU. Taken there by a London Tory Government. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Easy to hide behind a computer and call people names. Not much of an argument for anything though is it?It's the truth Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I fail to see your logic. We are already in the EU. Taken there by a London Tory Government.Aye, it was the Torries.Jesus H suffering Christ.You really buy into that partisan bullshit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamgers 1,214 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Fuck Salmond and fuck the SNP! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 You really have to wonder if anyone other that salmond's team would have got out of this mess ... as if the little fat turd wouldn't use his influence to help his team Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hearts werent facing HMRCAlso true to say that we had no one in a position of power who wasn't too scared to help big bad Rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveheartGordon 77 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 No, we're really not.We're a proud Unionist institution, if you support nationalism you are very much against everything Rangers stands for. So you are not welcome at Ibrox.Its funny they forgot to mention that when asking me to renew my season ticket.....Its the 21st century you don't have to think anything to support Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The only reason to vote for independence is that it's a protection against the right wing nutter tories in WestminsterIt's a powerful argument.As for this nonsense that you can't be a 'Gers supporter and vote for independence..............................well...that's what it is.......nonsense ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The only reason to vote for independence is that it's a protection against the right wing nutter tories in WestminsterIt's a powerful argument.As for this nonsense that you can't be a 'Gers supporter and vote for independence..............................well...that's what it is.......nonsense !I thought by the SNP's own admission that anyone could be voted for in an independent Scotland? So how do you guarantee but getting 'right wing nutter tories' in holyrood? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy74 20 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I thought by the SNP's own admission that anyone could be voted for in an independent Scotland? So how do you guarantee but getting 'right wing nutter tories' in holyrood?He did not say guarantee. He said protection against. As the people of Scotland unequivocally vote against the Tories then its quite clear how this works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio 1,199 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 He only came out and said it after it was pretty much sealed. He is a rat bastard of a human being. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Its funny they forgot to mention that when asking me to renew my season ticket.....Its the 21st century you don't have to think anything to support Rangers.I'm afraid you do. By supporting nationalism you go against everything the Rangers and it's support represents and stands for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveheartGordon 77 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I'm afraid you do. By supporting nationalism you go against everything the Rangers and it's support represents and stands for.You talk about the Rangers support as if we all think the same things and are united behind all the same things.Spending 5 minutes on this (or any other) thread would prove this not to be the case,we're all individuals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillWard 6 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I was in the Army man and boy. Signed up as a cook at 16. Transferred to a IR a year at 18. Gave 25'yrs of my life in a service which took the lives of my father and grandfather. I watched Greig lift European silver. Stood in ibrox when people threw whisky bottles at each other and urine ran down the terrace. Seen Cooper play alongside McLean. Watched Souness transform Wallaces mess into something great. Shook hands with Willie Waddell and lost an uncle in the 66 disaster which me and my brother missed due to leaving at half time as i had to catch a train to report back to my regiment. I am a bear. I am loyal. I have no truck with Salmond or his SNP. I will be voting YES. Not because im a traitor, but because the UK has changed and is now betraying my grandchildren.Hear, hear. The barely literate morons on this thread are the real embarrassment to our club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy74 20 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Aye, it was the Torries.Jesus H suffering Christ.You really buy into that partisan bullshit?Its not partisan its a simple statement of fact. Britain applied to join the EEC in 1961. The Tories were in power and they were the ones who applied. Britain formally joined the EEC in 1973. The Tories were in power and Edward Heath ratified the membership.The common market was modified in 1987 paving the way towards a single European Union. The Tories were in power and Thatcher signed off on all the agreements.Britain joined the ERM in 1990. The Tories were in power and had been for over a decade. 1991 The Masstricht treaty is signed by a Tory Prime Minister which turns the Community into a political and fiscal union1993 and the Tory government accept and ratify the European Union Act with a monetary opt out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Its not partisan its a simple statement of fact. Britain applied to join the EEC in 1961. The Tories were in power and they were the ones who applied.Britain formally joined the EEC in 1973. The Tories were in power and Edward Heath ratified the membership.The common market was modified in 1987 paving the way towards a single European Union. The Tories were in power and Thatcher signed off on all the agreements.Britain joined the ERM in 1990. The Tories were in power and had been for over a decade.1991 The Masstricht treaty is signed by a Tory Prime Minister which turns the Community into a political and fiscal union1993 and the Tory government accept and ratify the European Union Act with a monetary opt out.And so because the Torries did Labor had to continue it? Regardless of that the fact that every poll on the subject has shown that a large majority want out of the EU.Can you show me the law or the act/statute of legislation that bounds one party to continue the policy of the previous one?Vote UKIP if its such a problem.Oh no wait, they are conservatives........but wait again, its not a partisan matter so shouldn't matter..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy74 20 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 And so because the Torries did Labor had to continue it? Regardless of that the fact that every poll on the subject has shown that a large majority want out of the EU.Can you show me the law or the act/statute of legislation that bounds one party to continue the policy of the previous one?Vote UKIP if its such a problem.Oh no wait, they are conservatives........but wait again, its not a partisan matter so shouldn't matter.....What polls are you citing? Are you really saying its someone elses fault that the Tories took us into the EU. Im actually quite happy to be in the EU. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CottonRunt 978 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 While the SNP seem happy to promote the idea that a vote for independence is not a vote for the SNP, they seem to ignore the fact that the opposite is true, and that a vote for no is not a vote for the torries!What i dread if we get independence is that Scotland will forever have a government made up of a labour or SNP majority.We will become more and more socialist, leading to higher taxation and economic ruin.The scandanavian model that the SNP seem so keen on will never, ever work in this country, for a whole bunch of societal reasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 While the SNP seem happy to promote the idea that a vote for independence is not a vote for the SNP, they seem to ignore the fact that the opposite is true, and that a vote for no is not a vote for the torries!What i dread if we get independence is that Scotland will forever have a government made up of a labour or SNP majority.We will become more and more socialist, leading to higher taxation and economic ruin.The scandanavian model that the SNP seem so keen on will never, ever work in this country, for a whole bunch of societal reasons.The Tories haven't won a majority since 1992 yet they love to play up the idea that No = Tory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,929 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 While the SNP seem happy to promote the idea that a vote for independence is not a vote for the SNP, they seem to ignore the fact that the opposite is true, and that a vote for no is not a vote for the torries!What i dread if we get independence is that Scotland will forever have a government made up of a labour or SNP majority.We will become more and more socialist, leading to higher taxation and economic ruin.The scandanavian model that the SNP seem so keen on will never, ever work in this country, for a whole bunch of societal reasons.This. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamgers 1,214 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 While the SNP seem happy to promote the idea that a vote for independence is not a vote for the SNP, they seem to ignore the fact that the opposite is true, and that a vote for no is not a vote for the torries!What i dread if we get independence is that Scotland will forever have a government made up of a labour or SNP majority.We will become more and more socialist, leading to higher taxation and economic ruin.The scandanavian model that the SNP seem so keen on will never, ever work in this country, for a whole bunch of societal reasons.Well said..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,186 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 It's reminiscent of young Andy's recent Wimbledon win.......Wolfy Salmond turns up right at the end waving a saltire for Scotland for a bit of pro SNP publicity.The 16 year olds who he is so selflessly allowing to vote must be running for their Mel Gibson Braveheart box sets in pure pride... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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