ranges fans for independence Facebook page - no longer a fan

[eejay the dj 31,964]

Most of you are forgetting two vital things .This is Glasgow and Glasgow voted Yes .That is where the problem is .The rest of the Country are probably going about their business and accepting the majority decision .But not this corrupt little cesspit that is Glasgow .Sadly it still has lots of power and like a few on here have said ,will already be putting wheels in motion to makes changes and put pressure on to get what they want .The government should now go after them while they now have the backing .Make it an offence to damage the Union Jack or at very least back the people that wanted to maintain the Union .We need the protection as these will go to war now to make sure if they ever get another chance in years to come .They will get what they want ..Look out for lots more Irish and Polish getting easy housing in the areas outside Glasgow from now on .Oh shit,that's right .The corrupt bastards have no control over other Cities housing arrangements .Having said ,nothing would surprise me with GCC.And don't kid yourself the beggar loving media will change .They will link every negative story to our club and put them all in the same group .Just cause they can and will

[eejay the dj 31,964]

Independance was never going to be allowed to happen anyway.

At the end of the day, we need our friends in the big cities like Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle and Birmingham if we ever want to overthrow the servants of evil in Westminster

What gets me, though, is the sheer amount of screwballs (most from working-class backgrounds, unbelievably) who's heads have been ram-raided and filled with such bigotry and stupidity that they are only too happy to do their Masters' bidding for them.

Those scummy cunts who rocked up to George Square and associated themselves with Rangers have damaged us as a club perhaps beyond repair and I hope the club does everything to distance themselves from that kind of far-right fundamentalist filth.

And, please spare me the whataboutery and the claims that the troublemakers were '50/50' on both sides. Those draped in the union flags were the aggresors and it has been quite sometime since I have been so ashamed of my fellow countrymen.

The world was watching...

Make no mistake, these bigoted reptiles have made us a bigger target now and I would have to say that the nazi-saluting scum and any of their ilk deserve every bit of pain they have suffered and have yet to suffer. Put simply, they don't deserve to have a club to affiliate themselves to.

It's just a pity that the decent fans will suffer along the way...

you still hurting you never got you yes vote .What complete and utter pish

[WadeWilson 4,670]

Most of you are forgetting two vital things .This is Glasgow and Glasgow voted Yes .That is where the problem is .The rest of the Country are probably going about their business and accepting the majority decision .But not this corrupt little cesspit that is Glasgow .Sadly it still has lots of power and like a few on here have said ,will already be putting wheels in motion to makes changes and put pressure on to get what they want .The government should now go after them while they now have the backing .Make it an offence to damage the Union Jack or at very least back the people that wanted to maintain the Union .We need the protection as these will go to war now to make sure if they ever get another chance in years to come .They will get what they want ..Look out for lots more Irish and Polish getting easy housing in the areas outside Glasgow from now on .Oh shit,that's right .The corrupt bastards have no control over other Cities housing arrangements .Having said ,nothing would surprise me with GCC.And don't kid yourself the beggar loving media will change .They will link every negative story to our club and put them all in the same group .Just cause they can and will

Well, you certainly seem well-versed in complete and utter pish.

PS - Only the pensioners and the weans voted 'No' in the rest of the country. If you hate Glasgow so much why don't you move away? Just be sure you don't move to Eire or Polska. You wouldn't like it there either.

[WadeWilson 4,670]

you still hurting you never got you yes vote .What complete and utter pish

We have all saw the irrefutable evidence of the knuckledraggers dragging RFC into their agenda.

There are also many scurrilous, online rumours and accusations of VBs being involved. It would be good if they could come out and stamp out these rumours since they are being dragged into the shitstorm.

Lastly, whoever saw fit to hang a Rangerschat banner at what was basically a political rally was ill-advised at best.

[eejay the dj 31,964]

We have all saw the irrefutable evidence of the knuckledraggers dragging RFC into their agenda.

There are also many scurrilous, online rumours and accusations of VBs being involved. It would be good if they could come out and stamp out these rumours since they are being dragged into the shitstorm.

Lastly, whoever saw fit to hang a Rangerschat banner at what was basically a political rally was ill-advised at best.

You are just on the wrong board .Your opinions have been consistent since I joined this site .Bit like mine but I know which side I'm on .Your pain is oozing out of you :-))))

[macranger 296]

I've seen on FBI quite a few of them saying they're no longer fans. Seems funny, no-one seems to know any of these guys, so they can't prove if they did go or not. We have a guy at work that was a yes supporter who claims to be a Rangers fan, but in the past 10 years, he's been to about 3 games. Never a fan, & these arses are the same. Maybe call themselves fans, but they give nothing to Rangers, so they won't be missed. The most they do is watch them on TV.

[HeHaw 513]

Hear! Hear! HeHaw.

I'd say that both campaigns left a lot to be desired.

There's a quite frankly undemocratic moral superiority about these "45ers" who seem to think they should have won, because they got less votes, albeit not by far. "They was robbed!" they'd tell you. The combination of jingoism, romanticism and economic short-sightedness is both worrying and sad.

A lot of those who voted YES believed that they had nothing to lose, so "Fuck it! Why not?" They would have been up in arms by Xmas 2016 when their benefits and medications were cut and their jobs were lost within a year of the independence changeover.

The overly optimistic projections for the economy made it look like they had something to gain and nothing to lose, but they actually had something, albeit not vast riches, to lose. The welfare state, the NHS and their jobs were at risk, but many thought they were heading to some wealthy socialist nirvana.

I'm sorry to disillusion them, but even the much vaunted oil reserves and financial services were going to remain under the control of private companies. Only the tax revenue goes to the state and these industries employ a great deal of people. It's not as though Salmond had a plan for nationalising the oil fields(despite Jim Sillars' rant) along with a central bank and a nationalised hight street bank to release credit to those in need on preferable terms, thus avoiding the need for pawnbrokers, pay-day loans companies and loan sharks.

Furthermore, many of those YES backers, such as Business for Scotland, wanted independence in order to carve up the state for their private interests, along with a central bank free Sterlingisation to limit government, which entails a combination of cuts and borrowing on the international markets.

But hey, the dream-nay fantasy- was rejected so, as you rightly say, they respond by saying "let's blame the 2m+ NO votes on a few hundred chaps waving Union Flags in George Square, and why not drag in the Orange Order and the Rangers support too, since we're giving people a kicking."

Let's totally overlook some YES campaigners who called those who said they were voting NO traitors, and worse, if those people didn't have a Scottish accent or white skin. Let's overlook the fact that there were massive social and economic concerns that disturbed many."

So much for the all-inclusive façade they wanted to put forward. Well the mask has well and truly slipped and we can see the ugly side of nationalism. And you know what, it's not all on the side they'd have you believe. Team Scotland isn't the all-embracing movement they'd have us believe. They more they try to categorise and vilify the other, the more they push others away, and that will include some of the "45ers" too.

Couldn't agree more, the worst part is you have people within the yes campaign claiming some sort of morale victory about uniting Scotland whereas they have did the complete opposite with their "if you don't vote Yes, you're a traitor" pish. Trying to guilt trip the working class in to a yes vote whilst planning on bringing n cuts to the NHS etc. the scary part is that quite a few people fell for this.

We really need to combat this and quickly.

[Bothwellbear 1,392]

The Yestapo were at this throughout the campaign.

Putting their people in the undecided section of TV audiences for them to pop up at the end and claim they were more no at the start but have been won over by the debate and are now yes. Same mantra if they were stopped in the street. Lying scumbags.

This facebook page was more of the same.

As for the Yestapo bully boy tactics, there was no sign of them at the Orange parade. The cowards picked the weakest targets.

In George Square, it was clear the Yestapo could dish it out but they couldn't a dose of there own medicine.

Well done to those that reclaimed the Square.

Wow...just wow....

So well done to the police then. They were the ones that ended up taking over the square.

The yes campaign had been there all week. No trouble whatsoever. Those arseholes that arrived (and should not even have the right to look at a union flag nevemind hold one) went there to cause trouble. Pure and simple. This was a humiliation for Scotland. Those who caused trouble on both sides should have the book thrown at them to the highest degree.

I voted no. I felt relief. The union survives for now. But this question is not going away. The time is now for working towards building a better Scotland. Not goading or fighting or general knuckle dragging.

[Bothwellbear 1,392]

Couldn't agree more, the worst part is you have people within the yes campaign claiming some sort of morale victory about uniting Scotland whereas they have did the complete opposite with their "if you don't vote Yes, you're a traitor" pish. Trying to guilt trip the working class in to a yes vote whilst planning on bringing n cuts to the NHS etc. the scary part is that quite a few people fell for this.

We really need to combat this and quickly.

The only way to help the pro union sides is to have a government who will invest in creating jobs for Scotland and address poverty. Westminster must do more. Holyrood must do more.

[eejay the dj 31,964]

BB .You out of touch down in Biggar .The Yes campaign may not have been causing trouble but they were in everyone's faces intimidating anyone in the vicinity beforehand .

The Voting win meant that the opposite side could go there and fly the flags of the Union .Which is this Country . Is that wrong???? .The yes campaigners who had already been spouting off their pish got wind of this, it was all over the net. So they decided to turn up and cause the trouble .

What you seen was two sets of fanatics in a City that favours anti Union. For me it was selective clips taken to show the Unionists in bad light .It seems to have worked.

[thehost 11,061]

Wow...just wow....

So well done to the police then. They were the ones that ended up taking over the square.

The yes campaign had been there all week. No trouble whatsoever. Those arseholes that arrived (and should not even have the right to look at a union flag nevemind hold one) went there to cause trouble. Pure and simple. This was a humiliation for Scotland. Those who caused trouble on both sides should have the book thrown at them to the highest degree.

I voted no. I felt relief. The union survives for now. But this question is not going away. The time is now for working towards building a better Scotland. Not goading or fighting or general knuckle dragging.

You should be having a word with yourself at this post.

[nachothelegend 1,932]

Most of you are forgetting two vital things .This is Glasgow and Glasgow voted Yes .That is where the problem is .The rest of the Country are probably going about their business and accepting the majority decision .But not this corrupt little cesspit that is Glasgow .Sadly it still has lots of power and like a few on here have said ,will already be putting wheels in motion to makes changes and put pressure on to get what they want .The government should now go after them while they now have the backing .Make it an offence to damage the Union Jack or at very least back the people that wanted to maintain the Union .We need the protection as these will go to war now to make sure if they ever get another chance in years to come .They will get what they want ..Look out for lots more Irish and Polish getting easy housing in the areas outside Glasgow from now on .Oh shit,that's right .The corrupt bastards have no control over other Cities housing arrangements .Having said ,nothing would surprise me with GCC.And don't kid yourself the beggar loving media will change .They will link every negative story to our club and put them all in the same group .Just cause they can and will

Housing is a bone of ccontention with me.

Ex Armed Forces and got told to gtf in Edinburgh 4 year's ago.

I'm not done with it yet but if I was in England I'd have got priority, but not in Socialist Fair Society Schotland.

[nachothelegend 1,932]

I've seen on FBI quite a few of them saying they're no longer fans. Seems funny, no-one seems to know any of these guys, so they can't prove if they did go or not. We have a guy at work that was a yes supporter who claims to be a Rangers fan, but in the past 10 years, he's been to about 3 games. Never a fan, & these arses are the same. Maybe call themselves fans, but they give nothing to Rangers, so they won't be missed. The most they do is watch them on TV.

Maybe they should show their purchase History.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,753]

Scotland is the new Rangers.

Divided, in-fighting, and even now boycotting.

No doubt the opportunity has now arisen for some to benefit from it to their own gain whilst purporting to speak for the people.

Irrespective of whether you wanted the Yes or No outcome, an opportunity for the country to benefit itself has been / is being lost.

Shambolic.

[eejay the dj 31,964]

All you yes voters are just living in fantasy land if you think Independence would have been to Scotland's benefit .Get over it .You lost thank fuck

[Bothwellbear 1,392]

BB .You out of touch down in Biggar .The Yes campaign may not have been causing trouble but they were in everyone's faces intimidating anyone in the vicinity beforehand .

The Voting win meant that the opposite side could go there and fly the flags of the Union .Which is this Country . Is that wrong???? .The yes campaigners who had already been spouting off their pish got wind of this, it was all over the net. So they decided to turn up and cause the trouble .

What you seen was two sets of fanatics in a City that favours anti Union. For me it was selective clips taken to show the Unionists in bad light .It seems to have worked.

Absolutely fine to fly the union flag. Of course it is. But it is not ok to use it to cause trouble which is what some of them did on Friday night.

I am not talking about unionists and pretty sure most of those that are angry about Friday on here. I am referring to the ones that did go to cause trouble. Which did happen and I could name names of some of those that did. I am not out of touch in Biggar as I work through in Edinburgh in Glasgow every other day. I have seen how some of the campaigning was done and no it wasn't always right. But Friday was wrong. Just wrong.

We need to come together in Scotland and work towards sorting the country out. Not creating even further division.

We need jobs, education, a solid NHS or when this comes up again the union will not survive.

[Bothwellbear 1,392]

You should be having a word with yourself at this post.

Nah I'm good. If you disagree then I know I am probably right.

[Guest]

The blame for the trouble lies on the Yes voters. As soon as the result came in they should have went home

But they stayed hoping for trouble so they could play the victim.

[.Williamson. 82,411]

Just had a look at it there and there's quite a number of people claiming to have done the same

They're basically taigs so I honestly couldn't give a shite.

[Inigo 32,534]

BB .You out of touch down in Biggar .The Yes campaign may not have been causing trouble but they were in everyone's faces intimidating anyone in the vicinity beforehand .

The Voting win meant that the opposite side could go there and fly the flags of the Union .Which is this Country . Is that wrong???? .The yes campaigners who had already been spouting off their pish got wind of this, it was all over the net. So they decided to turn up and cause the trouble .

What you seen was two sets of fanatics in a City that favours anti Union. For me it was selective clips taken to show the Unionists in bad light .It seems to have worked.

Come on now, eejay. The maturity levels displayed by some on both sides, and I include many of the posts on this forum, have been measurable by the 6-inch ruler I measure my genitals with. I would be delighted if things changed and I could start using my 12 inch ruler.

Friday night was not the Unionist's best hour.

[TheBluebells 6,898]

The blame for the trouble lies on the Yes voters. As soon as the result came in they should have went home

But they stayed hoping for trouble so they could play the victim.

Yes voters with union jacks and singing GSTQ then i take it?

It's hardly the fault of yes voters, that's a bit of a stretch.

[The Godfather 71,983]

Yes voters with union jacks and singing GSTQ then i take it?

It's hardly the fault of yes voters, that's a bit of a stretch.

Nor is it the fault of No voters/Unionists.

It's a group of folk pickled with drink goading each other on.

No major incidents took place and was it not only 6 arrests for minor incidents? Which is pretty standard for a group of that size egging each other on.

[Inigo 32,534]

Nor is it the fault of No voters/Unionists.

It's a group of folk pickled with drink goading each other on.

No major incidents took place and was it not only 6 arrests for minor incidents? Which is pretty standard for a group of that size egging each other on.

11 and counting. It seems the police were not able to arrest everyone they wanted to and are now hunting others that were not arrested on the night.

[The Godfather 71,983]

11 and counting. It seems the police were not able to arrest everyone they wanted to and are now hunting others that were not arrested on the night.

I suppose they will be Rangers fans no doubt going by some of the folk on here

Mind you still no 'major' incidents...seems many have blown the whole thing out of proportion. I wonder why....

[Inigo 32,534]

I suppose they will be Rangers fans no doubt going by some of the folk on here

Both sides of the debate, I think. Well, I don't know, but according to reports both Yessers and Noers have been arrested.

Rangers fans? No idea. You know my thoughts on the appearance of Rangers gear at George Square.