UpStepsTheHammer 93 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 A great player, wouldn't go so far as to say he was the best in Europe for his time.We have had some of the best players in Europe for their times though.Like who mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUILDMYGALLOWS1986 413 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 He's a wank.This, was having drinks in the beardmore hotel in Clydebank years ago the night before an old firm game, some wank set the fire alarm off and it turned out that The Rangers team were staying at the hotel, anyways all the players were great...signing autographs and getting pictures taking apart from that wee scrotum who was rude and obnoxious to fellow bears! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthUistBear 86 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Ned and embarrassment Sorry to burst yer bubble but there it isOk, how an embarrassment?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpStepsTheHammer 93 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 This, was having drinks in the beardmore hotel in Clydebank years ago the night before an old firm game, some wank set the fire alarm off and it turned out that The Rangers team were staying at the hotel, anyways all the players were great...signing autographs and getting pictures taking apart from that wee scrotum who was rude and obnoxious to fellow bears!This I can believe, when we used to wait after the games when we were younger he was always the one that would try sneak out the back way to avoid folk, or would sign stuff as he walked. Never seemed to have much time for the fans. That's the main downside to him in my eyes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Like who mate?Cooper, McCoist, Laudrup Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Dragged a very poor Rangers side over the line on more than one occassion.Fantastic player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie 205 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Great player. Was gutted when he left. Unfortunately the way he left for Blackburn and the PLG fiasco blotted his copybook but he certainly deserves his place in the Hall of Fame unlike many of those who are in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Was superb and was very good at Blackburn, too. Got MOTM pretty much every week for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devref 201 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 pre Blackburn done the business more often than not. post Blackburn let himself and the club down more often than not and the plg stuff didn't help him. overall no more than an a good player but never a great when you compare him to the top in Europe in his day and some of the greats we have had over the years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 8,373 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 A fantastic footballer - his brother wasn't bad either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I'm pretty sure this was Wee Barry's Scotland Youth Top - signed by his own heroes...I need to check that with him though, to be sure.And yes, of course it's for sale! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I thought Rangers were a better team when he left in 2009,Steve Davis playing through the middle was probably the difference in us winning the league that year and later that same year Pedro Mendes made the midfield even better.I liked Ferguson but thought he was a wee bit over rated especially in his second spell after his initial impact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackandra 732 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Ned and embarrassment Sorry to burst yer bubble but there it isReally? I know he let himself down a bit on the latter stages of his career with us, but he was one of our best players before he went to Blackburn and held his own when he came back. Was also a standout at Blackpool in his twilight years with them. Bit harsh to say he was an embarasment Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
longbeachbear 16 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 At his best he was far from out of place amongst the best midfielders of his era, which he proved on numerous occasions. His career never really had a chance to kick-on in England before the knee injury got him. After that he was still a very good player but seldom hit the same level as before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,300 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 He's our Paul McStay. If he was that good he'd not have played for Blackburn and Birmingham and Blackpool. He'd have been snapped up by Chelsea or Real Madrid.A good player in a poor Scottish league and a journeyman EPL player.That's all he will ever be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stafford 163 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Outstanding when he 1st broke through. His grit carried us 1 full season. On his day he was amazing and he really could mix it with the better midfielders in Europe watch him v bayern and mattheus. ( It would be fair to say he was truly outplayed by arteta and mendieta) I remember thinking for large periods he was overrated by our fans and felt frustrated at the influence he had on some of our other players that maybe couldn't handle the pressure of playing for Rangers. I understand this was only because he was a winner but it made players most notably Namouchi just crumble on the park when a encouragement may have helped more. His possession play was great and frustrating in equal measures. He was a great player for us but personally I would say van bronkhorst and Gazza were better midfielders. On a par with arteta, his determination was second to none. He may have done a few stupid things but I wouldn't accuse him of being a ned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck the bear 106 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Embarrassment how!? He might have been a ned when he was younger but surely deserves credit for turning into a leader of our most talented team in decades? And I'd argue that 'ned' mentality gave him the edge to his game he needed to mix it with the best in Europe!?Nearly all football players have the ned mentality when they are young, they would not survive this enviroment otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Always rated Barry but always felt if Derek had applied himself he could have been the better of the two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Always rated Barry but always felt if Derek had applied himself he could have been the better of the two.Derek was just coming into his own when Souness arrived you would have thought that would have been the making of him like Durrant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Derek was just coming into his own when Souness arrived you would have thought that would have been the making of him like Durrant.Always though Derek was a fantastic talent shame he never really got his priorities right at the time.Always felt the same on Charlie miller he had everything but let it slide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I'm pretty sure this was Wee Barry's Scotland Youth Top - signed by his own heroes...I need to check that with him though, to be sure.And yes, of course it's for sale! Ferguson had retired from internationals when Scotland wore this iirc. Certainly wasn't his youth shirt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stafford 163 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 For all the negative stories about his attitude I can give 1 example of him being a good guy. A close relative was working as a home help for 1 of our tea ladies (I can't remember it was either Irene, Tiny or 1 of their daughters) before her death. while Barry was manager of Blackpool and him and Bob Malcolm were up visiting the lady every couple of days for a few weeks and she has nothing but good things to say about both of them. Prior to this she too thought of him as the ned some people judge him to be. She actually never knew who Bob Malcolm was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Ferguson had retired from internationals when Scotland wore this iirc. Certainly wasn't his youth shirt.Damn you and your facts! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Derek the more skillful but overall Barry the better player by a mile . Barry wouldn't look out of place in any Rangers team of the past Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Derek the more skillful but overall Barry the better player by a mile . Barry wouldn't look out of place in any Rangers team of the pastDerek kinda blew his career which in my opinion could have been as good, Barry was a fantastic talent you only have to look over old games to see he had everything. Time actually makes you forget how good he was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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