Vanoli 4,625 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 He doesn't deserve it. He doesn't deserve to be here. He's done. King has plenty to answer for, but this clown has even more. Our budget dwarfs that of Hearts, and we haven't even landed a fucking punch on them tonight. We can't beat any of the top 3 teams - we don't have the quality or the guts to do it. The man has squandered just about every penny he has been given. If there is anything there to invest, don't give it to him - it will set us back just as far if not further than the money Ally squandered. If there's no replacement available just now, give him the wages for a couple of loans to limp us over the line in 3rd or 4th. Not a penny more. Save whatever we have for a real football manager; because this guy is no more than an ideologist, who loses grasp on reality more and more every day. We can keep peddling myths about how promising what he's trying to do is, or how we try and play the game the right way all we want. It's delusion. He doesn't belong here, his team don't belong here. We're falling behind Celtic every single day he stays, and he can't be trusted with any funds we could conceivably get our hands on to try and bridge the gap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 1,929 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 For me Warburton totally underestimated the step up from the championship to the SPL. He allowed seasoned professionals especially the likes of Shiels and Law walk out the door and replaced them with prospects + Barton & Kranjkar. Granted he put a lot of faith in Barton only to have that blow up in his face when he perhaps couldn't handle some home truths put to him post Celtic defeat and then just as Kranjkar starts to show signs of improvement he gets a season ending injury. The rest of his signings are not up to the challenge of Scottish football, Windass out again Rossiter injured (always) Dodoo looked lost tonight. Garner I think could do a job but not in a 4 3 3 formation. He also stated on transfer deadline day last season that transfer day transfers are panic buys (Senderos) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 If you don't give him a penny then you need to sack him, can we afford to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 74,032 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Severance pay only. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, AlCapone said: If you don't give him a penny then you need to sack him, can we afford to? I know this will seem simplistic, but sack him. If I was working for a company and failed to produce the results that were required, then I'd be sacked, no pay off. There's no difference really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Just now, Virtuoso said: I know this will seem simplistic, but sack him. If I was working for a company and failed to produce the results that were required, then I'd be sacked. There's no difference really. Need to pay up his contract though. It is different Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Just now, AlCapone said: Need to pay up his contract though. It is different Do we? Genuine question but how does that stand up? You fail, you get sacked but rewarded....? (or is there a clause written in?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 can we crowdfund his severance package since Diamond Dave is a bit cash lite? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: Do we? Genuine question but how does that stand up? You fail, you get sacked but rewarded....? (or is there a clause written in?) How can you prove he failed? That's subjective. A contract is a contract Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybongo 110 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 This is a nightmare. We obviously need a huge upgrade, and we don't have the money to get it. Totally pissed off with this now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, AlCapone said: How can you prove he failed? That's subjective. A contract is a contract Fair enough regarding subjectivity (could go round in circles regarding that)....so gardening leave it is then ....or he he could walk away 'sans' ala' Le Guen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: Fair enough regarding subjectivity (could go round in circles regarding that)....so gardening leave it is then ....or he he could walk away 'sans' ala' Le Guen I think le gurney was a one off though I'm not sure he really did walk for nothing. Not sure how we move things forward, frustrating! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybongo 110 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, AlCapone said: I think le gurney was a one off though I'm not sure he really did walk for nothing. Not sure how we move things forward, frustrating! We let the dud know how we feel. Immediately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugar_free_pizza 402 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 even if he goes, king wont part with a penny because that so called rangers owner already has his excuses tied up for the next few years "we can't afford to bail out the manager because we're fighting ashley for the retail rights bla bla bla" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,395 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 if the realistic view was that we weren't going to challenge the mhanks across a whole season this year but were building to mount a sustained challenge next or the one after then why the fuck would you buy Hill, Senderos, Barton and Kranjcar. There is no building being done with that four, they'd be done after 12months. Taxi for MW? Pack yer bags and get tae... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybears1872 129 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Maybe just maybe one of those interested teams will take MW off our hands, That way we don't need to pay up, Can only pray... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,371 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, AlCapone said: If you don't give him a penny then you need to sack him, can we afford to? And then sack him then give the new guy absolutely no money to build his own team...6 months later we're in the same position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Lots will depend on the next few games. Lose them both and he's in trouble. Win them both and he's back in business. Somewhere in between and he'll probably bumble on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,906 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 He's not been given any money in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,654 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Between a rock and hard place Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 If we lose the next 2 games he'll be sacked Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2 hours ago, AlCapone said: If you don't give him a penny then you need to sack him, can we afford to? The board haven't priced that into the financial plan?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, WilliamFyfe said: If we lose the next 2 games he'll be sacked He is finished now, his tank is empty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 7 hours ago, danger ranger said: The board haven't priced that into the financial plan?. What financial plan? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 7 hours ago, Sasa'onlyPLGsuccess'Papac said: He's not been given any money in the first place. He has. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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