Inigo 33,346 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Victims, not traitors. We should be treated the same as everyone else during the enquiry that should happen. If anyone at our club is found to have behaved badly, they should be punished the same as anyone else. If there had been any cover up, then we should also be punished severely. As it stands nobody at our club has done anything wrong in terms of cover ups, and I don't expect we'll find anyone has. That's all kind of obvious, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scottyscott1963 19,167 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Inigo said: Victims, not traitors. We should be treated the same as everyone else during the enquiry that should happen. If anyone at our club is found to have behaved badly, they should be punished the same as anyone else. If there had been any cover up, then we should also be punished severely. As it stands nobody at our club has done anything wrong in terms of cover ups, and I don't expect we'll find anyone has. That's all kind of obvious, isn't it? Wasn't sure when the media were running with the abuse stories for the last couple of weeks whether they realised that the story about Neely actually exonerated Rangers from any wrongdoing. Me personally thought if they were only trying to connect us to abuse by association, then they failed miserably as it looks like ,of all the clubs mentioned we seemed to have been the only club who followed the right and proper way to handle such cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewhitevanman 1,619 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Bin this thread immediately what a crock of shit, that's what I really think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Anyone involved in child abuse or covering up child abuse deserves to be fully punished in every possible way. That goes for anyone, at any football club or elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,346 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, scottyscott1963 said: Wasn't sure when the media were running with the abuse stories for the last couple of weeks whether they realised that the story about Neely actually exonerated Rangers from any wrongdoing. Me personally thought if they were only trying to connect us to abuse by association, then they failed miserably as it looks like ,of all the clubs mentioned we seemed to have been the only club who followed the right and proper way to handle such cases. Indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,536 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I would hope the club does everything in their power to aid the prosecution of such individuals and help support the victims in any way they can. I would expect nothing less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 You see, I was actually a victim of this when I was younger and the affects to me were very little. It will effect different people in different ways, if something like this did happen at our club the actions would have vary. Did the club know? Did the club notify the authorities? Etc In only answer to those questions can u hold the club responsible or not and take action against it. Would be happy for celtic to be closed down tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 If anything was covered up I would want everybody involved or involved in any sweep sweep taken outside and shot. I seriously doubt we have covered anything up, but if there are abuse victims out there I would urge them to come forward and the club will help them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Pathetic thread. Op is a degenerate. Any victim of any abuse should be treated with compassion regardless of the circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno's Manbun 2,631 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Think the thread should prob just be binned to be fair. All victims should be treated with compassion, end of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calio 688 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I really think the OP is a taig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 30,584 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 54 minutes ago, scottyscott1963 said: Wasn't sure when the media were running with the abuse stories for the last couple of weeks whether they realised that the story about Neely actually exonerated Rangers from any wrongdoing. Me personally thought if they were only trying to connect us to abuse by association, then they failed miserably as it looks like ,of all the clubs mentioned we seemed to have been the only club who followed the right and proper way to handle such cases. Spot on mate as each different club is being found out , the media should be pointing out that case and saying that's how you should have acted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid2103 285 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1 hour ago, deco19761 said: I sincerely believe that the club didn't cover anything and reported it via the right avenues. I believe we would have went through the right avenues myself, would hate to think of that kind of thing being covered up. That's what separates us from the fucking filth across the city. Fucking vile vermin. Morals and a sense of decency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 If there are any victims from our Club, which I doubt, then I'm sure the Club will assist the police in any way possible. Our club wouldn't want any victims to feel ashamed or scared to come out, unlike Celtic and Celtic fans who want to shame them into silence. All victims should be able to receive the help they need and see justice done. The taigs are doing a good job of twisting this. They make it out like we "point score" because there was child abuse at Celtic, when in reality we are highlighting the cover up and the fact that their club is practically a paedophile ring by definition that payed off victims and allowed rapists to go free. Our Club didn't do that, quite the contrary in fact, when there was accusations of abuse at our Club we went straight to the police police and didn't protect the abuser like Celtic did and like their fans are still trying to do. JOCK STEIN WASN'T A GRASS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 19,167 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 13 minutes ago, Willis said: If there are any victims from our Club, which I doubt, then I'm sure the Club will assist the police in any way possible. Our club wouldn't want any victims to feel ashamed or scared to come out, unlike Celtic and Celtic fans who want to shame them into silence. All victims should be able to receive the help they need and see justice done. The taigs are doing a good job of twisting this. They make it out like we "point score" because there was child abuse at Celtic, when in reality we are highlighting the cover up and the fact that their club is practically a paedophile ring by definition that payed off victims and allowed rapists to go free. Our Club didn't do that, quite the contrary in fact, when there was accusations of abuse at our Club we went straight to the police police and didn't protect the abuser like Celtic did and like their fans are still trying to do. JOCK STEIN WASN'T A GRASS Would like to think that any right minded person would thank us for highlighting the facts. Can only think of one other thing as bad as abusing a kid. That is the cover up of abuse by adults on kids. Remember that some of these people are morally outraged when called "fenians". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Child abuse is child abuse and much more important than Rangers, If anyone did come forward and report a abuse claim at our club then we as fans should back that person and make sure the pedophile gets the jail. What Celtic and Hibs seem to have done is cover it up and that's a full new ball game. We never sung BJK to put the boot into Celtic, We sung it to let the world know what happened and now the authorities listen? Why not years ago as every cunt knew about it even McNeil says in his book it was an open secret. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I think if we had covered anything up, then there are so many folk in this country that can't wait to stick the boot in, we would of heard about it by now. Although I wouldn't be surprised if there will be some willing to lie to make a fast buck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
William McBeath 2,154 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Jack The Flipper said: You see, I was actually a victim of this when I was younger and the affects to me were very little. It will effect different people in different ways, if something like this did happen at our club the actions would have vary. Did the club know? Did the club notify the authorities? Etc In only answer to those questions can u hold the club responsible or not and take action against it. Would be happy for celtic to be closed down tbh. Sorry to hear this bud but I don't think the actions should vary. If a child claims a man molested them or anyone else claims it on their behalf then the police should be phoned right away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 3 hours ago, calio said: I really think the OP is a taig. I find it hard to disagree with this, it's deflection nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,714 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 A friend of mine was abused as a 13-14 year old. He was plied with drink, whist a teacher from his school sexually played with him. He wasn't gay, and it never had any effect on him, although he has used his experience to get his leg over. He has also used his abuse to get a lesser sentence when up on a charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,714 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Child sex abuse is treated differently today from when I grew up in the 1960's-70's. You were a vindictive, disgusting, wee bastard, if you ever accused anyone of sex abuse back then. It was a 'Rite of Passage' in certain RC schools/churches back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Ranger 3,218 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 6 hours ago, deco19761 said: Here it is on a plate. What do people really think of any underlying issue within our club re historical sex abuse cases. Now.i am not for one minute suggesting that our club has done anything wrong and I am sure as with Gordon Neilly matter the club has acted swiftly in any instances of child abuse. But what happens if there aare.people,fans, ex youth players out there who may want to come forward to tell their story.? How would people look on them ? Traitors, attention seekers looking to link the club to this or any other matter..etc etc Is the protection of the club more important that anything or would thus make us as bad as that mob from the other side of the city in covering things up. ?? This is no doubt a quandary that some youths may face. It happened that long ago and there are.more stringent checks in place.now. but does bringing up the past in order to Assist the bigger picture with the protection or non protection as it seems with kids back then justify it.? We have heard rumours of John cchalmers an ex rangers youth coach and that he hung himself a few.yeara back as matters were abput to surface. Or Neilly who is now deceased. So is there.any point of it. Just interested to see what people would say in the event that matters arise . ? Can't believe that it would cross the mind of any normal person that victims of child abuse could be seen as traitors or attention seekers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 how can we have any history of abuse, we have no history period. time to lock this daft nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno's Manbun 2,631 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1 minute ago, siddiqi_drinker said: how can we have any history of abuse, we have no history period. time to lock this daft nonsense Oh aye I almost forgot ranjurs are deid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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