Theulstervolunteer 1,859 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, RFCRobertson said: Yeah he still has another 3.5 years on his contract (come February initially it was a 4.5 year contract) Makes it even more strange .......I'm thinking that's the biggest length of contract anyone has got under warburton so far ....... he must have a Gd agent lol. Hopefully he can turn it around but from what I have seen of MOH he has very limited ability imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,338 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Have they been our best players this season? Possibly. And I get that they're good pros and a good example and generally good to have around. However, if they're first picks next season then it'll suggest we don't have the quality to beat sellic. Will wait to see how the squad develops. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Firstly, i'll buy my ST for the 35th year in a row but i think others will not. Secondly, you sum it up - a 37 and 38 yr old are our best players. What does that say about the rest of our squad How are we meant to compete with that lot? We should be trying to sign a Cuellar for 2m again - 2/3yrs good service and off to the prem for a good profit. That should be our ambition!!! Yeah, you're probably right. However we don't need to sacrifice the spine of our team to do that. This is absolutely the right decision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 So the spine of the team is a good goalie, helped by a 40 year old and a 38year old. Well that should be an interesting season. ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: So the spine of the team is a good goalie, helped by a 40 year old and a 38year old. Well that should be an interesting season. ?? The thing that gets me is that MW is not daft. He knows full well theres only room for one manager in this city. If next season goes in a similar way hes out the door. Is he going to get funds to do it! If he isnt then if i was him i would fuck off while his reputation is still ok. Or are funds coming??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: The thing that gets me is that MW is not daft. He knows full well theres only room for one manager in this city. If next season goes in a similar way hes out the door. Is he going to get funds to do it! If he isnt then if i was him i would fuck off while his reputation is still ok. Or are funds coming??? I've gave up trying to work out what's happening anymore. The only money he will get is a little slice of the ST money, and that won't win us a league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Fuck it, bring back Barry Ferguson for a year too. People moaning about us bringing loan players in ffs. Sorry but no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: I've gave up trying to work out what's happening anymore. The only money he will get is a little slice of the ST money, and that won't win us a league. And there's the danger CB. Will we sell as many ST''s next year? I'm repeating myself over and over again. Buying young hungry players of a decent pedigree eg £2-3m - 2/3 good years service and off to the richest league in the world for 2/3/4 times your money is the template. Easier said than done of course but there has to be significant ambition or this could spiral downwards verg quickly Carlos Cuellar being a prime example Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,474 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 So the Sun is to be believed? I'll wait and see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 75,791 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Bench players next season or else we are in for a horrible season. We are skint as fuck tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: And there's the danger CB. Will we sell as many ST''s next year? I'm repeating myself over and over again. Buying young hungry players of a decent pedigree eg £2-3m - 2/3 good years service and off to the richest league in the world for 2/3/4 times your money is the template. Easier said than done of course but there has to be significant ambition or this could spiral downwards verg quickly Carlos Cuellar being a prime example That's the template ? Sadly we can't even afford to get that going without a substantial frontloaded investment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
now then forever 298 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Both been really good this season and probably deserve an extension. Even if they're just squad players next year, they are both great professionals and can only benefit the squad and in particular younger players coming through. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muz333 376 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I don't know if Hill and Miller have another year in them, however they've done well enough this season to deserve a loan. Mo'H out? I don't care what the common believe is here. I rate him and he can put a cross ball in. Annoyed we don't play him. Where as others rate Tav in midfield... Crooks? Is he even fit? If so why hasn't he played? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 73,952 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Muz333 said: I don't know if Hill and Miller have another year in them, however they've done well enough this season to deserve a loan. Mo'H out? I don't care what the common believe is here. I rate him and he can put a cross ball in. Annoyed we don't play him. Where as others rate Tav in midfield... Crooks? Is he even fit? If so why hasn't he played? He's absolutely rank rotten, wins corners with most crosses -lol- because he canny get it by the first man most time, the least skillful winger I think I've ever seen and doesn't look interested. Should be behind, Waghorn, Forrester and Dodoo for right wing and that's saying something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, Muz333 said: I don't know if Hill and Miller have another year in them, however they've done well enough this season to deserve a loan. Mo'H out? I don't care what the common believe is here. I rate him and he can put a cross ball in. Annoyed we don't play him. Where as others rate Tav in midfield... Crooks? Is he even fit? If so why hasn't he played? If we're going to be playing 3-5-2 the MoH is preferable to Tav for me. Harder worker and more likely to track back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muz333 376 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Should be behind, Waghorn, Forrester and Dodoo for right wing and that's saying something. Mo'H hasn't had a real run of games yet. Normally does well for assists when he has a game. Forrester would do better behind a front two rather on the wing for me, he's decent but I'll struggle to forgive him for not passing the bloody ball the other day! Not sure Waghorn can handle the step up in leagues but I hope he proves me wrong. I also hope Dodoo is one for the future, although I tend to get overly excited by young players with very few meeting expectations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 It just shows how bad it really is at Ibrox, there is definitely no money what so ever and so much for a youth coach, I have said it before and I will say it again we are fucked for years to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 6 hours ago, sandyinroyalblue said: Miller is a honest guy he will only sign another contract if he thinks he can continue to bring something to the team. Don't kid yourself. Kenny Miller is a mercenary who has chased the money his entire career. His bank balance comes first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,714 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'd normally be against giving 2 old timers an extension to their contract, however they have been, almost every week, our best 2 players in the team, they've made it difficult not to give them another run at the title. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,714 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Muz333 said: I don't know if Hill and Miller have another year in them, however they've done well enough this season to deserve a loan. Mo'H out? I don't care what the common believe is here. I rate him and he can put a cross ball in. Annoyed we don't play him. Where as others rate Tav in midfield... Crooks? Is he even fit? If so why hasn't he played? I agree with you regarding M oh. He needs a run of games, to be given a chance. I thought that he was starting to find some decent form, then he got dropped, and has hardly featured since. Crooks has definitely not been given a decent go at holding down a place. It's not as if those in his position, are setting the heather ablaze with their stunning displays, is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1690tamRFC 5,001 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 6 hours ago, Bears r us said: I can just about understand the Miller & Hill extensions, but the MOH situation (if true) is very strange. Could be a case of MOH saying he wants to leave as he's not getting a game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,932 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Thewhitesettler said: I agree with you regarding M oh. He needs a run of games, to be given a chance. I thought that he was starting to find some decent form, then he got dropped, and has hardly featured since. Crooks has definitely not been given a decent go at holding down a place. It's not as if those in his position, are setting the heather ablaze with their stunning displays, is it? If you are rank rotten every time you take the field that does not lend itself to a deserved run of games, that would be like playing with 9 men ffs, MOH has seldom produced and Crooks just looks like a fish out of water. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jb85 1,786 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Yes for both Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don81 2,875 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Our two best players this year (along with Fod). No brainer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujolais 1,371 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I completely get why MW is doing this. They and Fod are the most consistent performers we currently have. But as others have said not a great indictment of other players in our squad, that these two seem to be the hungriest players on the pitch. For a lot of our younger players it really is case of wages which are too much too soon. Warbs has to start somewhere for building a team for next year- as things stand this is probably the only way he can sensibly go. However there really needs to be some well thought out signings to go along with this. The Barton signing still baffles me (other than a gimmick to promote season ticket sales) as it did not seem to fit with what the team actually needed or fit with Warbs previous signing template- i.e. We shouldn't just sign someone because they are available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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