KWBear 1,640 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Sums up the imagination and financial clout of this board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 1,983 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, plumbGER said: Remember Warburtons interviews when he first came? Buzzwords aplenty, clichés we hadn't heard before but grew accustomed too, impressive stuff we all thought. Do you think he was an ace communicator and organiser? Suggest you read my post again. I didn't say that being a good public communicator ( as Warburton generally was) guarantees effective organisation of the team. However, it seems improbable that an inability to communicate clearly in public doesn't lead to problems when trying to communicate with, and organise a team. And, by the way, I don't think SAF was that bad at communicating in public. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trialist 80 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 TBH if this is the level of our judgement and ambition, then we can prepare for more second prizes, and wasted seasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,772 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 hours ago, OceanRain said: "I'm a Rangers man [...] When you're offered a chance to come here it's very difficult to turn down [...] If Rangers wanted to speak to me then I'd have to take it from there." I have never posted anything regarding rumours I've heard etc, but have absolutely no reason not to believe what I was told today. A member of the girl's family says McLeish is waiting for the call and it'll be done. The above quote definitely adds weight to that. If we're going for an appointment until the end of the season I'd rather McLeish than Davies. Long term though, it's without doubt neither. Must be someone like de Boer for the long run. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Trooblue said: Suggest you read my post again. I didn't say that being a good public communicator ( as Warburton generally was) guarantees effective organisation of the team. However, it seems improbable that an inability to communicate clearly in public doesn't lead to problems when trying to communicate with, and organise a team. And, by the way, I don't think SAF was that bad at communicating in public. I suggest you gather some facts before you try to label people stone-age cavemen because how you imagine them to be in a dressing room shouting and bawling. Out of interest, and a genuine question, has any of our ex players actually came out and said McLeish used to shout and bawl like a caveman? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Zamaleck fired with half the season still to play, so NO from me. This next appointment of a manager is massive for the club and the choice will be a true indicator of the ambitions of the current board, we cannot afford for them to get it wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Mcleish has what it takes to win trophies in Scotland and that's exactly what's required. A decent run in Europe would be great but that costs too much and is a long term issue which none of us have much enamour for. We need trophies. Paedo select aren't as convincing as the media make out, Mcleish is the man to show that and to put them back where they belong, forever looking up at us and continuing their obsession. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Would be happy to have Mccleish till the end of the season but no longer than that because we need to look long term, the guy is obviously passionate for our club and could be the type of influence we need in the dressing room to boot some baws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergie_6 1,078 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: Zamaleck fired with half the season still to play, so NO from me. This next appointment of a manager is massive for the club and the choice will be a true indicator of the ambitions of the current board, we cannot afford for them to get it wrong. Fans are banned from games, good players strive with fans behind them, big eck will do just fine given the job Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 In the short term I don't really see an issue with this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Fergie_6 said: Fans are banned from games, good players strive with fans behind them, big eck will do just fine given the job So there were small (almost no) crowds, wow what a pish excuse. If he is appointed as a full-time manager then he may also see much smaller crowds at Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 1,983 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, plumbGER said: I suggest you gather some facts before you try to label people stone-age cavemen because how you imagine them to be in a dressing room shouting and bawling. Out of interest, and a genuine question, has any of our ex players actually came out and said McLeish used to shout and bawl like a caveman? Again, I suggest that you have another look at my post. I said that I imagine that McLeish would be good at the stone-age shouting and bawling. I don't have any proof that he has ever shouted at players, but then I haven't researched this. It's my opinion, based on the quite backward approach he has to tactics, and the tedious style of football he is associated with. This forum is about options, and that's mine. You are of course free to disagree. As I say, we'll no doubt get to see how effective and entertaining his Rangers team is over the period ahead. I'll be happy to give him credit if I'm proved wrong, but I've seen nothing in his career so far to convince me that he is the man Rangers need right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,772 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Any manager who comes in, long term/end of the season/whatever, HAS to change the tactics. We're too predictable in our current form. Perhaps two up top would be an idea but who would you go with? It'd need to be something like Fod; Hodson, Hill, Wilson, Wallace; Tav, Toral, Hyndman, McKay; Garner, Miller... Or MOH rather than Tav, or MOH up top with Garner? Having two similar players up top doesn't tend to be effective (Boyd and Miller being the perfect example of what is). Or could be Dodoo and Garner. It will be interesting nonetheless but worst thing that could happen is the status quo imo. A change in tactic/strategy could really benefit us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,450 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 32 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: Zamaleck fired with half the season still to play, so NO from me. This next appointment of a manager is massive for the club and the choice will be a true indicator of the ambitions of the current board, we cannot afford for them to get it wrong. Zamalek have fired basically every manager they have had for the past fifteen years within six months of their appointments so of all the thing he's done poorly that's one of the worst you can bring up as a reason not to appoint him IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettertogether 381 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 25 minutes ago, plumbGER said: I suggest you gather some facts before you try to label people stone-age cavemen because how you imagine them to be in a dressing room shouting and bawling. Out of interest, and a genuine question, has any of our ex players actually came out and said McLeish used to shout and bawl like a caveman? Don't know about ex players but I'm sure our potential PotY Kenny and big Alex have had a couple of coming togethers over the years " I think Kenny has made a big mistake leaving hivs to join Rangers " Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, JM1872 said: Any manager who comes in, long term/end of the season/whatever, HAS to change the tactics. We're too predictable in our current form. Perhaps two up top would be an idea but who would you go with? It'd need to be something like Fod; Hodson, Hill, Wilson, Wallace; Tav, Toral, Hyndman, McKay; Garner, Miller... Or MOH rather than Tav, or MOH up top with Garner? Having two similar players up top doesn't tend to be effective (Boyd and Miller being the perfect example of what is). Or could be Dodoo and Garner. It will be interesting nonetheless but worst thing that could happen is the status quo imo. A change in tactic/strategy could really benefit us. Today when we changed to 442 was probably the most dangerous we've looked attacking wise for months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 1,983 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, bettertogether said: Don't know about ex players but I'm sure our potential PotY Kenny and big Alex have had a couple of coming togethers over the years " I think Kenny has made a big mistake leaving hivs to join Rangers " Yes, and wasn't McLeish's first decision when he became manager to let Miller go to Wolves? Or is my memory playing tricks? I think Miller was away on loan and McLeish decided not to bring him back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Why are we sp stuck in the past. Know your history is fine but dont be trapped by it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I've always liked Big Eck, I'd be happy with this until the end of the season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamess 3,453 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, gogzy said: In the short term I don't really see an issue with this. Quite. Some people just don't recognise where we are right now. Keep it simple, put a bit of steel in the team and finish second, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, Trooblue said: Again, I suggest that you have another look at my post. I said that I imagine that McLeish would be good at the stone-age shouting and bawling. I don't have any proof that he has ever shouted at players, but then I haven't researched this. It's my opinion, based on the quite backward approach he has to tactics, and the tedious style of football he is associated with. This forum is about options, and that's mine. You are of course free to disagree. As I say, we'll no doubt get to see how effective and entertaining his Rangers team is over the period ahead. I'll be happy to give him credit if I'm proved wrong, but I've seen nothing in his career so far to convince me that he is the man Rangers need right now. That's fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion. If he comes in and offers up turgid football it will be the same style we are used after our last modern approach, good public speaking manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, bettertogether said: Don't know about ex players but I'm sure our potential PotY Kenny and big Alex have had a couple of coming togethers over the years " I think Kenny has made a big mistake leaving hivs to join Rangers " He's managed him at Scotland since then without any trouble (far as I remember anyway) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 110,178 Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Moody Blue Legend said: My wife said the same. I fuckin love you two Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonbudjoe 127 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 It will probably end up being someone unexpected or not really heard of. Just because the bookies have them favourites doesn't mean the board are considering them. It just means people are betting on them. The last time the same names kept coming up and it apparently came down to Warburton and Vitor Pereira. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1780 1,227 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Next appointment needs to be THE appointment not a short term stop gap imo, would Mcleish have the ability to get us to finish the season strong- I think so is Mcleish clever enough in the transfer market and does he have what it takes to surpass the mhanks next season??? Doubtful is he THE appointment we need? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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